  areoh
join:2001-11-10 Sioux City, IA | CableONE goin' backwards It's a shame really... first the caps, now the hikes.  | |
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 |  fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| Re: CableONE goin' backwards My god!! First hike in years!! and here come the hikes!
I'm sorry.. I can see people complaining about MediaCom, Comcast, and TWC's hikes.. but CableOne hikes video rates for the "first time in years - due to increased costs" and the first post of the threat is a grip about the hikes?
I guess "be reasonable" is not a good thing? Afteral, most people get a "hike" in their paycheck at LEAST once a year, if not twice. | |
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 |  |   celeritypc For Lucky Best Wash, Use Mr. Sparkle Premium join:2004-05-15 Caldwell, NJ 1 edit | Re: Said many times but true - Hollywood drives TV costs Most people just don't want to acknowledge the truth. I went to the movies last week and whoa and behold, the ticket price increased by 75 cents. I don't believe they have added any value for that extra money. | |
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| Re: Said many times but true - Hollywood drives TV costs said by celeritypc :Most people just don't want to acknowledge the truth. I went to the movies last week and whoa and behold, the ticket price increased by 75 cents. I don't believe they have added any value for that extra money. Concession prices probably went up more than that. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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 |  |  |  fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| Price increases don't always equate added value. Comcast claims 'added value' on their hikes more than they do increased costs. (dumb move on their part) However, the movie theater, in this case, I give a full pass too. They are usually the LAST people at the bottom of the sh*t hill and are being squeezed the hardest. (Which is why we pay $5.50 for an extra large pop)
These pompass a*ses that think their acting is worth millions (see Tom Cruise) is one major reason why the prices go up.. another.. less people are coming to the theater after the initial rush of a new release.
On that note, too, the 'industry' says that ticket sales are down.. all the while, as news stations are consistently reporting record box office releases. :-? Interesting... | |
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@cableone.net | Re: Said many times but true - Hollywood drives TV costs And the weak American dollar and massive inflation.... as well as the greedy coporate media conglomerates like Viacom, clear channel, National Amusements, Vivendi etc... just drives up the cost of everything sigh | |
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 |   DotMac Shill H8r Premium join:2007-10-26 Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: Said many times but true - Hollywood drives TV costs Funny how you can still buy songs for a buck a la carte despite pressure from the RIAA membership.
Fact is if the cable, telco and DBS industry would stand up to these guys they could control the prices.
But alas, it's easier just to hit the cable customer ATM twice a year. | |
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join:2002-09-28 Bisbee, AZ
| CableOne If we were getting the same service as other cable providers I wouldn't mind - but we don't even get Bravo and there are no HD channels at all! I moved and I'm paying as much for 3MB internet as I paid for 8MB with Cox and Cox didn't have caps. I'm paying a little less for TV, but with only about half the channels. Unfortunately where I live there are no alternatives. - sheureka (stuck in the boondocks) | |
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join:2006-06-10 Hollis, NH | Re: CableOne Smaller cable companies most likely have challenges making investments in newer services. Unfortunatly the FCC wants to keep cable small. This is a lose lose. | |
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join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA
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| Re: Bullcrap!! said by MagMan :They know they have most people by the balls because they have no other choices. Except that little thing called Sat TV and in some areas telco TV  | |
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| I wouldn't doubt that TW..Comcast and others will soon follow. With programming and gas costs what they are..how can they not?
Undoubtedly, many won't like it but I think we have to keep in mind not only those things but the fact that whatever service we're on or fans of..whether it's verizon..uverse..Comcast..or whomever..overall I think it's still a very good value considering what we get for the money.
While some might not recall the days of hourly dialup pricing..I sure can. And those 200~300.00 month bills just for 9600 baud slow as molasses internet certainly took a toll on my wallet. And tv..while I was never really much of a fan of it anyway..has certainly became something else with all the high def and channels available...not to mention things like DVR and on demand.
You know folks..we WANT the innovation and continual upgrades..and have to remember that doesn't come free.
I think overall though..the industry has kept things in check and today..we get considerably more value for our dollars.
Whether it's 80/month we pay or 150.00..keep in mind that is only about 3 to 5 dollars per day...less than the price of a value meal at Mc'd's. And, on Comcast anyway..that buys everything they have virtually..from digital tv to all the premiums to dvr to digital phone..unlimited local and long distance..to 20 to 30Mb HSI speeds w/powerboost.
5.00 bucks a day. I call that a value however you want to shake it out..and many here on their providers get that same kind of value.
That is a coffee and muffin at dunkin donuts.. soon to be a gallon of gas.. but this industry gives us all this..for that price.
Been to a movie lately? That's a large soda. Thanks..but NO thanks to that..I'll stay home and enjoy the top tier Comcast offers instead.
These providers are not expensive. They're a value overall. And whether we can save a few cents here or there or maybe even a few dollars..it pays to keep that in mind when looking at the big picture. -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! | |
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| Re: I wouldn't doubt that said by Rick :overall I think it's still a very good value considering what we get for the money. Not to mention we're talking about television, a mechanism of providing entertainment. | |
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| Re: I wouldn't doubt that the infomericals that the cable stations air should stop then. i feel like im paying to have their shit on. it's bad enough tv is "bug" happy (we can't have perfect copies of the programmes now can we?) but now i've noticed the 30 minute long adz are getting more and more "usage" sometimes during prime time.
and blame channels like ESPN who demand to stay on standard cable when they should be moved to a sports tier. monday night football isn't doing so hot on it, either but the advertizers love it!
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 |  |  |  fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| Re: I wouldn't doubt that You're right! ESPN needs to have some big names stand up to them right about now. It wouldn't be very hard to starve ESPN out of existence or into a sports tier where they belong in the first place. Problem is that many contracts of carriage all expire at different times so what it gives them, ESPN, is the ability to launch the typical campaign of "XXXX is trying to take us away from you" attacks. I think ESPN's day is coming.. when? Not sure.
As for the infomercial.. where are they running in prime time? What networks? Even here, in the Twin Cities, our locals run infomercials in the mid morning/afternoon Saturday and Sunday sometimes. As for on cable, it DOES bring in revenue when they turn networks over at night. It's often done at the cable operator side as many networks don't broadcast 24 hours a day. Instead of dead air, they will sell infomercials in the weee hours of the morning. (Also, keep in mind there are 4 time zones in the country which can cause infomercial times to lapse over others on single feed networks.) | |
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 |  |  fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20 | Well, kind of, or partly yes. Television is also a source of information.. last time I checked, CNN wasn't very entertaining. :P | |
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join:2002-12-25 Idaho Falls, ID | Cableone rate increases Cableone needs some competition to wake them up. | |
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 |  fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| Re: Cableone rate increases First price hike in years, and they need to wake up? Wow.
Actually, let me tell you what Cable one is and represents here.
For everyone that says "Comcast is too big" or "big cable" or any other "I hate big corporate 'screw-me' business" lines out there.. Cable one is your future should cable be broke up.
Smaller cable companies offer nothing new.. higher prices for less, and little to no innovation. Why? They have no money. Break them all up, including phone again, and what do we have? 1990's all over again, right before the mergers started.
So please... look at the whole picture when you guys complain and make these statements. I remember when Scripps Howard/Sacramento cable had the company wide meeting to tell us we were being sold to Comcast. Everything they told us was true. The company, on it's own, didn't have the money to expand and compete. Comcast was going to bring in the money to upgrade the system, offer HSI and digital cable services. With in months of the sale - all they said happened. Sacramento Cable didn't have the money..
What CableOne needs is Money. They need someone to buy them, invest the money, and bring their system up to date. What inevitably happens in systems where those like CableOne exist is that Satellite comes in, takes a HUGE chunk of their customer base, eroding the bottom line even more until that area has really nothing.
But, back to your post.. why does cable one need some competition to wake them up exactly? | |
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| Re: Cableone rate increases said by fiberguy :What CableOne needs is Money. They need someone to buy them, invest the money, and bring their system up to date. What inevitably happens in systems where those like CableOne exist is that Satellite comes in, takes a HUGE chunk of their customer base, eroding the bottom line even more until that area has really nothing. FYI, Cable One is owned by the Washington Post. | |
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 |  |  |  fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
| Re: Cableone rate increases Well, I know their affiliates now. Still, each operating unit, and I don't know how the money and corps are set up, I don't believe that they need to subsidize their small cable operation at a loss. (or if they even can) They don't service very many major areas so I'm sure their subscriber numbers are pretty small.
Even if a company is owned or part of another, they all have to be able to operate independent and sustain their own revenue or it's lights out. | |
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join:2002-12-25 Idaho Falls, ID | cableone rate increases If cableone had some competition would they wake up? | |
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| Inflation and dropping value You know the American dollar is worth much less than it did just 2 years ago. The Canadian dollar is the same as the American, the euro is about 1.5 times more than the American dollar... and the British pound is more then 2x more than the American dollar. In the world market the US dollar lost about 30% of it's value in just 3 years! Essentially, even adjusting for that and the massive inflation we've seen the past 5 years, their rate hike is really nothing. Of course we're getting hammered because it's not like our salary gets adjusted for the weak dollar and inflation.. grrr! I blame the government and their stupid forgein policy for the rate hike as well as the corporate media conglomerates. | |
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