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Cablevision CEO: Title II Neutrality Won't Harm Us At All

Cablevision has joined Frontier, Sprint and Sonic.net in publicly stating they don't believe that new Title-II based net neutrality rules will impact their business one way or the other. Speaking to analysts regarding last quarter's earnings report, Cablevision boss James Dolan stated that "the idea of more regulation is never great for us, but to be honest, we don't see at least what the Chairman has been discussing as having any real effect on our business."

The comments come after Sprint executives stated the ISP lobbyist meme that Title II neutrality rules would kill network investment simply isn't true. Sonic.net CEO Dane Jasper has similarly argued that the only ISPs that would be impacted by Title II are those planning to engage in anti-competitive behavior.
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shmerl
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shmerl

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The future

Here is the key part:
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Mr. Dolan has said he can envision a future when Cablevision may not offer TV service, but focus solely on broadband. Mr. Dolan often refers to Cablevision as a "connectivity" company.

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Mr. Dolan continued to emphasize the broadband business over television. "The consumer values the connectivity product more than they do the video product at this point," he said, which is a "pretty big shift."

With general decline of cable TV and shifting of video services to the Web there is some hope that ISPs will have less conflicts of interest and will focus on what they should have always focused - providing a better network service. And it would mean they'll start pushing for more bandwidth and so on.

The question is, how far in the future that can be?
majortom1029
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Re: The future

The dolans have been saying this for some time. They said in the future the can see them having somebody else provide the tv over the lines. Heck If one video provider can get all the channels to agree then this could happen sooner or later.

Instead of having analog video or seperate tv channels cablevision can make it one huge internet pipe and then the tv provider would do it kinda like netflix or amazon prime does it now.
elefante72
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I don't disagree, but most ISPs were not telcos, they started as cable companies. And multi-line is important to lower shared operational expense. They still need the wire if it is 1, 2, or 3 play. None of them want to be a dumb pipe only and pass up all that revenue coming through the pipe...
shmerl
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shmerl

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Re: The future

Point is, they will all eventually become pipes, that's what James Dolan is saying. And the sooner it will happen, the sooner they'll start caring about creating bigger pipes, since that would be their main business focus.

ITALIAN926
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Re: The future

Youre not investing in bigger pipes with 1/3 the revenue. With these new rules expect all companies to eventually enact metered billing or caps.
shmerl
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shmerl

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Re: The future

They have enough profits to invest (see how crazy high profit margins for Internet alone are). Without wasting money on TV, they'll be more efficient.

They would be idiots to use any caps when the amount of traffic will constantly grow since all the video will shift to Internet proper.
Obi1Kanobi
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Connectivity only

Well, being a CableVision customer and seeing how well they maintain there infrastructure and how fast they are to stay on improvements, i think they are poised for good results if they need to move away from TV and just go "connectivity".

With no TV, there will be a ton more channels that can be used for Docsis bonding and with there dense penetration rate and good fiber density, I see them ready to dish out a ton of BW without much effort.
shmerl
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shmerl

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Re: Connectivity only

Still, they don't seem to rush with supporting IPv6.
elefante72
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elefante72

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Re: Connectivity only

I'm sure that is not on their high priority list. Most of my datacenter customers still run IPv4.

If they have IPv4 blocks, then it really isn't a burning issue.

Verizon doesn't seem in a rush either...
Skippy25
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It shouldn't

The only way it will harm companies is if they continue to abuse their dominant position in the markets and not deliver the products they should be delivering and improving them as they should be improving them.

If they don't do those things then all will be fine. If they do, then hopefully the FCC will begin tightening the noose and start forced line sharing and rate control.
elefante72
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Re: It shouldn't

+1 You don't have to go very far to see that in action. Canada. It's not perfect, but it seems to work. There are the usual legacy shenanigans, but the cost can be much better.

I think multiple private pipes are a very bad idea for a utility.

They CRTC (FCCish) mandate CLECs (TPIA) which charge on peak usage for their rate structures.

Stroll over to Canada forums here and you can get a flavor...
quisp65
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Like forcing car companies to have to list their prices they sell their cars

If you forced car companies to list the actual price they sell their cars, they wouldn't make as much money. Albeit more than likely necessary, if they make less money on the backend it could slow down investment in it to at least some degree.

MxxCon
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It's a scheme?

While I respect Sonic.net, all the other mentioned names are of dubious ethics. Maybe they actually figured out something that we are missing and they secretly know that they will continue to do what they are doing and even worse things. Maybe yesterday Google's statement does have some merit and we should pay attention to it?

nonamesleft
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Wrong!

I just found an article that george soros has been funneling money to net neutrality groups. Will the internet under go Fundamental change now too?
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rit56
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Dolan

To bad he doesn't run the Knicks like he runs his cable company.