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2 edits | Cablevision DOCSIS 3.0 Speeds 'Within Months' It'll be interesting to see what speed tiers they offer. Hopefully this will also spur Verizon to accelerate their Fios deployments in the Bronx to snatch some of Cablevision's market share.
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Caldwell, NJ | Re: Kudos to Cablevision "They are the MSO that is always at the forefront of technology and they aren't afraid to spend money to give their customers a good value."
They are also at the forefront of raising rates. | |
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| |  dennismurphyPut me on hold? I'll put YOU on holdPremium
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| Re: Kudos to Cablevision said by k2nnj:"They are the MSO that is always at the forefront of technology and they aren't afraid to spend money to give their customers a good value." They are also at the forefront of raising rates. Are you kidding?
Optimum Online service was $39.95 for cable subscribers in 2002 ... Here, in 2008, it's $44.95. And that's IF you don't have the Triple Play.
I wouldn't call that excessive at all... a $5 rate hike in 6+ years? Not bad at all. | |
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| Re: Kudos to Cablevision said by dennismurphy:said by k2nnj:"They are the MSO that is always at the forefront of technology and they aren't afraid to spend money to give their customers a good value." They are also at the forefront of raising rates. Are you kidding? Optimum Online service was $39.95 for cable subscribers in 2002 ... Here, in 2008, it's $44.95. And that's IF you don't have the Triple Play. I wouldn't call that excessive at all... a $5 rate hike in 6+ years? Not bad at all. I pay $49.95 but and I saw a $10 rate increase. Granted it has not increased since 2002. However, that is due more to competition. | |
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| | |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | said by dennismurphy:said by k2nnj:"They are the MSO that is always at the forefront of technology and they aren't afraid to spend money to give their customers a good value." They are also at the forefront of raising rates. I wouldn't call that excessive at all... a $5 rate hike in 6+ years? Not bad at all. Just like all other cable companies, VIDEO subs subsidize HSI!
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Parsippany, NJ | Re: Kudos to Cablevision said by dvd536:Just like all other cable companies, VIDEO subs subsidize HSI! Proof, please. | |
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kudos:12 | Re: Kudos to Cablevision said by dennismurphy:said by dvd536:Just like all other cable companies, VIDEO subs subsidize HSI! Proof, please. The fact that 99% of the cable companies give you a discount if you subscribe to a certain video tier along with any other product? They don't raise your cable rate if you just want video ... but if you just want HSI or just want their phone, you pay more without video service. | |
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| Re: Kudos to Cablevision said by Matt:said by dennismurphy:said by dvd536:Just like all other cable companies, VIDEO subs subsidize HSI! Proof, please. The fact that 99% of the cable companies give you a discount if you subscribe to a certain video tier along with any other product? They don't raise your cable rate if you just want video ... but if you just want HSI or just want their phone, you pay more without video service. I suspect that almost everyone here (with a VERY few exceptions) know anything about Cablevision's revenue streams, and a breakdown of capital investment per product. (Hello, Wilt... I bet you're the only one 
Having said that - Cablevision isn't Comcast. And Comcast isn't Mediacom. Mediacom isn't Cox, and Cox isn't Verizon.
Each company runs their operation as they see fit. There's no "one size fits all" mold.
If history has shown us anything, Cablevision tries extremely hard to be at the forefront of technology - they have a (relatively) small physical footprint, a large subscriber base, and a deep penetration rate that the other CableCo's would kill for.
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After contacting CV, and having them insist my signal levels were fine, I had them change my outside splitter and I swapped out my modem. Things improved slightly, but I would still come home from time to time to the blinking cable modem indicative of no signal/connection.
In late 2004, Verizon brought Fios to the area, offering 15/2 service. I signed up in May 2005, and it's been great. Now, with my plan at 20/5, the speed is a nice thing, but not nearly as important (to me) as reliability of the connection. Fios has never been down for me when I needed it, short of a regional power outage, which of course is expected.
I have moved since (to an area where Fios is only lit in half of the area - and not in my half), so CV is my only choice. (I don't want DSL.) It remains to be seen how much better their reliability will be at my new address. I'm hoping for the best, but it'll give me a nice comparison to my last three years of Fios.
So while I congratulate CV on continung to upgrade their network, I would settle for increased reliability, or reliability similar to the stabiltiy of my Fios connection at my parent's place. Of course, YMMV and perhaps other CV subscribes have had better results with them than I had in the 2 years before I switched providers.
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Riverhead, NY | Re: DOCSIS 3 Ok, but reliability in general is what I want Indicative of a bad drop or bad line inside. I know....signal was within specs....I've had it happen and would have SWORN against everything, but it happened with a two month old install. I had actually fallen onto the coax in my crawlspace and apparently it was enough to damage the cable. The iO box was 50/50 working, and when I switched the line to the modem it would sporadically drop out. All the time my signal was excellent.
I got a tech out here and he actually made around a 200' cable and ran it to the pole. The sporadic channels on the iO box stopped. I had ran the lines very nice and had a crawlspace that was easy enough to maneuver so he actually ripped every line out and ran me new ones - including a brand new drop from the street. | |
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| Re: DOCSIS 3 Ok, but reliability in general is what I want said by fcisler:Indicative of a bad drop or bad line inside. I know....signal was within specs....I've had it happen and would have SWORN against everything, but it happened with a two month old install. I had actually fallen onto the coax in my crawlspace and apparently it was enough to damage the cable. The iO box was 50/50 working, and when I switched the line to the modem it would sporadically drop out. All the time my signal was excellent. I got a tech out here and he actually made around a 200' cable and ran it to the pole. The sporadic channels on the iO box stopped. I had ran the lines very nice and had a crawlspace that was easy enough to maneuver so he actually ripped every line out and ran me new ones - including a brand new drop from the street. Well, he went above and beyond I guess. They replaced the coax line from the modem to the main line on my house, but not the line from the house to the road. Guess there is where the problem was.
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1 edit | Good I have boost i can imagine with DOCSIS 3.0 which ill definitely get if its not problem.
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join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT | Re: Good I'm a non-Boost subscriber and I'm capped at 16.5/2. I get pretty damn near close to the caps.
When DOCSIS 3.0 comes out, I'll have to upgrade to 802.11n or wire up some GigE so I can take advantage of the ridiculous speeds. 802.11g just won't cut it.
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Camden, TN | Yippie! burn through your 250 GB monthly cap in only 20 hours! Awesome! | |
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| DodgePremium
join:2002-11-27 | Re: Yippie! said by BF69:burn through your 250 GB monthly cap in only 20 hours! Awesome! I could be wrong, but I don't believe cablevision instituted caps yet. | |
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| | | said by BF69:burn through your 250 GB monthly cap in only 20 hours! Awesome! What cap? This is Cablevision. | |
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| | | said by BF69:burn through your 250 GB monthly cap in only 20 hours! Awesome! Goodness... That is getting old.
Reference of Cablevision implementing a 250GB cap??? | |
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| Re: Yippie! There is no reference. It's a disgruntled Comcast customer in Tennessee.
Sir - we in OOL-land with the BOOST option, have, as noted in the original article, service that is 'uncapped in the truest sense of the word'. No monthly limits. No speed caps upload or download. Whatever the local network infrastructure can handle is what we get. This is easily confirmed by DOCSDIAG output.
Those on the 'standard tier' are speed capped at 16.5 down/2 up (again confirmed by DOCSDIAG) - but have no monthly usage/download maximums/caps. | |
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| | | dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by dbmaven:we in OOL-land with the BOOST option, have, as noted in the original article, service that is 'uncapped in the truest sense of the word'. No monthly limits. No speed caps upload or download. Whatever the local network infrastructure can handle is what we get. This is easily confirmed by DOCSDIAG output. Those on the 'standard tier' are speed capped at 16.5 down/2 up (again confirmed by DOCSDIAG) - but have no monthly usage/download maximums/caps. Kudos to Cablevision by not crippling SNMP to allow docsdiag to work!
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dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Beating back fios Maybe. but not beating fios on upload speeds.
even if they came up with a 50000 / 50000 tier and both fios and CV were even in terms of speed OFFERINGS, i'd prefer the company that only loads 32 subs on a node as opposed to the one that has 500+
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Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Beating back fios said by dvd536: i'd prefer the company that only loads 32 subs on a node as opposed to the one that has 500+ I doubt cablevision has 500 houses per node anywhere. Real statistics are very hard to find, but I think Cablevision is 50% or 25% of the houses that TWC and Comcast has per node. Cablevision recently has been installing "split 1 node into 4" fiber nodes around its service territory (4 unique outputs/upload bandwidth pools). They could also be doing a mhz plant upgrade. I would guess Cablevision keeps it at 50-100 houses passed per node, and 60% penetration (TV), and 50% OOL subscribing (not everyone uses computers) so its really like 25-60 OOL customers per node, and not everyone floors their connections all the time. | |
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| | | Well considering on cablevisions boost. they open up ports ports 80 and the email ports and allow these servers. also comes with a domain name and everything. PLus free wifi.
Add that to 38/5 speeds for $60 thats an awesome package that has a lot of features that the fios offering doesnt have.
Now if cablevision upgrades boost users to docsis 3 instead of coming up with a new package then verzion would have to do something.
Cablevision is not your typical cable company no matter how much you think they are. | |
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| | Go Optimum I have had Optimum Online Boost here in Connecticut since 2004, and it rocks the house. I cannot find any other ISP that has the offerings that Cablevision has. It even beats out FIOS in speed, unless you have the EXPENSIVE 50/20 Tier. I cannot remember when I lost connection. I truly feel that Cablevision should keep up the good work, and keep their services uncapped. Also, they should upgrade everyone at the current prices, so the Boost customers get the 50Mbps tier or whatever DOCSIS 3.0 is and the normal should get the 30Mbps. That would be a great fight against FIOS. | |
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Little Falls, NJ | Re: Go Optimum Sounds like they are trying everything to level the Fios playing field which is great in the competitive market known as the nyc metro area. The only problem is there TV service cant hold up in any way shape or form to the Fios Tv offering So when the triple play option comes into play ( which is popular ) CV is shot down once again. Plus the obvious PQ CV vs Fios which whenever i visit the family members still on CV I can EASILY see the horrible pixelation / macro blocking of the CV signal. ( both CV homes have all new RG6 runs and new 1gz plus splitters etc my handiwork done right ) so IMOP the playng field here in NNJ is still won by FIOS in the areas its available. but i welcome the extra competition CV gives to the market. | |
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| | | | Re: Go Optimum Fios is no match for DOCSIS 3.0 when it arrives with speeds topping of at 160MB/s, when Docsis arrives cable will be 5x faster than the regular fios and verizon will be in square 1 again, most people don't know but cablevision network is not much different than Verizon fios, Verizon delivers fios to a box outside your house and then they run a coaxial cable inside the house, while the cable company delivers fiber optics to a node that's down the block from you and then run coaxial to your home almost the same way | |
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| docsis 3.0 Tweaking reliability by phasing out docsis 2 modems would be a good idea by the end of 2009. Whereas Verizon paid lipservice to 100mbit service... which means a premesis visit for swapout of the BPONs to GPONs.. something they won't do because few, if any would afford the 100mbit service.. They also wasted a supervisor visit on the grounding issue where they could have done the swapout then.. | |
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Riverhead, NY | Re: docsis 3.0 Actually removing docsis 2 isn't going to happen....they use docsis 1.1.
They would be better off leaving regular customers on 1.1 too. Put the people who pay for faster speeds on 3.0. That will split up the nodes (effectively) and allow faster speeds for both. | |
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..but according to the original article: "..reports from our Optimum Online forum (also see here) indicate the company has completely removed downstream modem caps.."..."Boost users are being allowed to go just about as fast as local network conditions allow via DOCSIS 2.0 (upload configs remain intact)"