Cablevision appears poised to offer their Optimum Online broadband users a suite of new speed boosts, based on insider gossip in our forums. According to people claiming to be familiar with the upgrades, Optimum Online Basic will be seeing a speed bump from 15/2 to 15/5 Mbps. Optimum Online Boost Plus is being renamed as Optimum Ultra 50, with the top speed of 50 Mbps staying the same, but the upstream side being nudged from 8 Mbps to 25 Mbps.
Optimum Ultra is being bumped from 101/15Mbps to 101/35Mbps, and users in our forums have stated that the company is getting rid of the $300 installation fee. Cablevision introduced the 101 Mbps Ultra tier back in 2009, setting off a bit of a speed skirmish with Verizon FiOS -- who initially complained that the speeds offered were just a "parlor trick (before proceeding to offer first a 100 Mbps, then a 300 Mbps parlor trick of their own).
Insiders in our forums also point out that the company's Optimum Online Boost tier will be eliminated. For simplification, here's what Cablevision's broadband tiers should look like by summertime:
Darn, and Comcast just did they upgrades. I am not @ 50/10 which is aprox 55/11.
More upload would be awesome to have... but I can't imagine them doing another round of free upgrades. I do know a new 205Mb plan is in the works but doubt they will go back again to upgrade the others after just doing so.
It's nice to see others doing this though, pushes everyone to make it better.
That is some very good upload capacity for a Cable network. I don't know how Cablevision fairs in terms of consistency in comparison to other providers, though. As for having three tiers with the base at 15Mbps (unless there are unadvertised speeds), that is even nicer. Nothing like trash 1Mbps/??? Other providers in this area offer for a light package.
Comcast changed their tiers a few years ago and I'm getting extreme 50 at the price of blast. So basically they changed blast to extreme 50 (but rebranded it blast) and extreme 50 is now extreme 105.
I think blast is good enough for me.
Extreme 105 is $99 per month which used to be the price for extreme 50. Blast is now $61.99 with basic cable or higher subscription. -- I've experienced ImOn (when they were McLeod USA), Mediacom, Comcast, and Time Warner and I currently have DirecTV. They are much better than broadcast TV.
How many bonded channels and at what modulation do you think CV deployed to allow 35 Mbps upload?
Probably, based on other operators, 6.4Mhz 64QAM upstreams. You could make do with two bonded (~27Mbps each for ~54Mbps total), but probably two or three 6.4 Mhz wide upstreams with a 3.2Mhz upstream for legacy equipment.
Again, this based on what other operators are doing...
I'm guessing 3-4 upstream channels, all running at 64QAM, with relatively small nodes. If CV is able to run eight downstreams in a given area (I assume yes, though I haven't been on that side of DSLR forums in months) additional node splits wouldn't be needed, since downstream speeds didn't get boosted (nor do they need to be, to be honest).
2013-Jun-20 2:35 pm: ·
dbmaven There's no shortage Premium,Mod join:1999-10-26 Sty in Sky kudos:3
I've been on Boost+ for a long time - which was using 4 downstream and a single upstream channel. Speeds have always been very consistent (>58 down and > 7.5 up). In the last couple of months they've gone to 8 downstream channels, and have been replacing older modems with Arris units (like the TM822 I have), probably to get ready for the 8 down and maybe even 8 upstream channels. Right now, still using a single upstream channel - my guess is that will go up when they turn the switch on the upload increase. -- Ad astra per alas porci!!
2013-Jun-20 6:30 pm: ·
cypherstream Premium,MVM join:2004-12-02 Reading, PA kudos:3
Re: Upstream requirements
I don't think you can fit 8 upstreams in traditional 5-42 MHz upstream. You still need the box driver return for VOD and PPV and some telemetry / status monitoring and reverse sweep carrier.
8X4 sounds like the plan. I guess 3 x 6.4 64QAM and 1 3.2 16QAM. I know CV is all Cisco set tops, so I'm not sure how "low" they can go down to for the return. I usually see them sit around 20 MHz, but I think to fit more DOCSIS upstreams, you'd need to move that lower like Motorola based gear runs on (usually between 8 and 11 MHz).
I have Service Electric Cablevision and they bond 3 x 3.2 MHz 16QAM channels. Box return is 11.096 MHz I think. They only give us 20/2 (without cable) or 30/3 (triple play).
Yes, I'll be getting GFiber eventually. But for now the default tier is 1 Mbps up rather than 5 Mbps; you have to upgrade a couple tiers to get 5 Mbps, which is the fastest the upload side will go. And 50 Mbps is more expensive, with 20% of the upload speed, of the new OOL tier. Never mind the 101M tier, which I'd switch t in a heartbeat if it was available here (yes, I like fast uploads).
Just goes to show what can happen when both sides of the telecom duopoly decide to compete on a technology basis with each other...though I'm not completely sure whether I'd pick the faster CV or the more reliable FiOS if both were available to me.
Too bad that kind of competition is few and far between here in the US.
According to reality and some speculation.. the 15/2 tier is already upgraded, while the 50 & 101 tiers have NOT seen these upgrades YET.. rumors are that they will DROP on July 1st... there is also speculation the two higher tier priced will drop also.
I guess this is the official thread outside the OOL forum thread.. I'm hoping Verizon counters with not only an upload increase, but a download increase as well in short order. Let the pro consumer upgrades begin!!
For Verizon, download speed of above 100 megabits will be more costly as that requires an UPGRADE from BPONS, to GPONS.. and they might as well upgrade it when they do prewired service activations. Docsis 3 modems are gigabit prebuilt-in. Any router you buy must support gigabit wan/lan if you want the faster speeds (faster than 100 megabits).
I could see 50 becoming 75 or 100 mbits as a competitive response.
TWC is a pathetic company. They claimed to have pioneered fiber optics and did much to upgrade the Manhattan system to fiber optics, but then got all stingy and self interested in offering ZIP to the consumer at super high rates. Only now when FIOS gets installed in your area can you pry a deal from this company.
This is one of the fist cable companies to TRY and offer metered and capped overages with Comcast. Comcast now favors soft caps which are virtually nonexistent in FIOS footprints since it is so easy to switch companies like putting in a new roll of toilet paper.
2013-Jun-20 4:28 pm: ·
swintec Premium,VIP join:2003-12-19 Alfred, ME kudos:5
Not sure about your area, but in mine (WNY) there are a crapload of analog channels still active sucking up lots of bandwidth. I didn't check on the upload carriers, but TBH they upgraded to D3 in my area and the tap is on the corner of my property and fibre is just sitting right there.
In my neighborhood it could be P2P networks, because almost everyone is on FIOS . My neighbors across the street (TWC) are in their 80's so they just have cable/phone and would be the only TWC customers on my block. The only advantage TWC has is for analog TV watchers, which when they switch will mean a box for everyone....
With the move to HFC networks, there really isn't any reason why they couldn't offer competitive uploads, but I guess they want to drag on line cards or the like, or they just think being mediocre on download is good enough...
Up in Canada (Rogers) they still run 12/256kbps...Now that really sucks.
Now to see how overly saturated their network becomes, and to see if that terrible packet loss from the saturation comes back.
Cannot believe it took over 2 years to fix that packet loss issue caused by the upgrade to DOCSIS 3.0, which ended up being caused by partial RF interference and after a few months congestion and congestion alone. Why do companies not listen to people who know what they're talking about?
Regardless, I can't wait for this. 25Mbit UP is insane; this will help streaming and running a webserver so, so much . Hell, I can finally stop using OOLs terrible servers and have everything run locally now.
Course, I did expect a speed increase after they hiked prices by $5/mo. Why did it take this long?
Unless Cablevision can do something about their horrific Packet Delay Variation (a.k.a "Jitter") issues in dense installations like office and apartment buildings - and do a better job weatherproofing their infrastructure, a boost in speed will be essentially useless. FiOS still wins hands down in those circumstances.