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Cablevision Latest to Impose Sports Surcharge
New $2.98 Fee in April -- Whether You Watch Sports or Not
by Karl Bode 08:48AM Friday Feb 22 2013 Tipped by tmpchaos See Profile
Cablevision has joined DirecTV and Verizon in charging a new "sports surcharge" that places the costs of offering regional sports networks into a below-the-line fee. The new $2.98 a month fee will begin showing up on subscriber bills beginning in April. "Unfortunately, the rising cost of programming has resulted in this sports surcharge, which is similar to those introduced by other TV providers," insists Cablevision VP Bradley Feldman. In DirecTV and Cablevision's case, the fee is charged whether or not you actually watch sports. Verizon is actually trying something new by offering a channel bundle without sports in it.

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Transmaster
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Finding out something very interesting

My prehistoric TV finally died. So I routed everything through the HD monitor on my computer, wow big improvement but what I found out is how little TV I actually watched. I had the old TV going but I paid little attention to it. Is it time to cut the cord? Pay a surcharge for something I never watch I don't think so.
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Subaru
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Re: Finding out something very interesting

I used to do the same you used to do.. I ended up cord cutting but might get services back but using a HTPC for a dvr.. I still watch very little tv.

buddahbless

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Re: Finding out something very interesting

Same here. At MY IL residence I cut the cord yrs ago, between hulu, netflix, and crackle I have more than enough to watch, not to mention my 2TB DLNA NAS thats only partially full that has well over 300 of my favorite movies ( and 50+ disney movies for the kids) at the touch of a button.

OdinFaktor

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Re: Finding out something very interesting

Same thing happened here. Had only a small standard TV, bought a huge flat LED smart TV, realized I wasn't watching much cable -----> so I cut the cord and subscribed to Netflix.

Conclusion, watch more TV with family. Happy to have permanently reduced my monthly bills (by a lot!)

Transmaster
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Re: Finding out something very interesting

I am looking at a VPN connection to the UK so I can watch their TV. It is better. BBC-2 just got done with season 4 of Great British Railway Journeys presented by Michael Portillo. The series has 25 1/2 hour episodes in which Michael Protillo uses what is called a "Bradshaw" which is a train schedule and travel quide that was published by John Bradshaw starting in 1840. He travels the UK, and Irish rail system to see how many of the things mentioned in the Bradshaw Guides are still there. I have several editions of these Bradshaws starting with the 1840 edition loaded onto my iPad and I can follow Michael in his travels there is nothing like it on American TV. Most of the good stuff we do see on the Discovery Channel, History Channels, NatGeo first aired in the UK although many of them are edited to the point where they are unrecognizable garbage.
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OdinFaktor

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Re: Finding out something very interesting

Got any good solid guides about VPN connections, setup, and implementation?

Transmaster
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Re: Finding out something very interesting

I am looking into to several the best are those used by businesses they are also the most expensive but still they are far cheaper then Cable TV. VPN is built into Windows so you can set it up on your own but I would like something a little easier to set up, like you pay your money get a Key, pick a country, and click enter.
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Dear Mr. Feldman

We want to be able to drop sports channels we don't want, instead of having you ream us up the butt with yet another fee.

adkinsjm

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Cuyahoga Falls, OH

Re: Dear Mr. Feldman

The providers would love to offer packages without ESPN or regional sports networks.

cdru
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Dear Mr. Bob,

You're welcome. Now bend over.

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Mr. Fledman
xirian
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Re: Dear Mr. Feldman

PS the extra charge labeled "Lubricant Fee" does not actually include lube.

gest

@optonline.net
we should make a petition on the whitehouse site asking to have cable packages with no sports channels . stupid to be charged for all these channels which some people never watch .

Twaddle

@sbcglobal.net

Good-bye Pay TV

IF and when ATT imposes a surcharge for watching sports I will exercise my option by eliminating their TV services. I've just about had it with the Surcharges incurred to re-coup govt mandated fees exceeding the mandated fees charge. Their bundle includes channels(sports channels) I don't watch, don't want and can't remove so I'll be damned if I subsidize anymore crap I don't want anyway.

winsyrstrife
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Dropping TV kicks it down the line

I suppose you could drop TV. If enough customers do, but opt to keep their Internet services, how long will it be before the charges imposed on TV services are passed to Internet services?...

Then the question becomes how many are willing to cut their Internet cord? I can't (I frequently telecommute).
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I hear the words of what I'll become, how eager the hands that reach for love."
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cchhat01
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Re: Dropping TV kicks it down the line

said by winsyrstrife:

I suppose you could drop TV. If enough customers do, but opt to keep their Internet services, how long will it be before the charges imposed on TV services are passed to Internet services?...

Then the question becomes how many are willing to cut their Internet cord? I can't (I frequently telecommute).

This is the problem. We already know what is going to happen if we cut one cord. Why not eliminate this entire problem by voicing out loud and clear "we want a-la-carte programming" at a reasonable rate. We want the shivers to be sent to the content providers who like bundling things, not to the deliverymen.
If they had an option, the cable/satellite providers would unbundle.
Dish was founded on that principle (I learned that here on DSLR).

I find that most people who come here - myself included sometimes - just whine about Karl's findings. Its a feeding frenzy where everyone feeds off each other's opinions.

WHO ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THESE THINGS. I DON'T.
I seriously want to but do we really do anything but just express our opinions ? We just go about our business on a day-to-day basis and expect someone else to take care of the crap.

PS. Don't want you to think that I'm venting on you or something (no offense). I just had to say what I felt like saying.

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Re: Dropping TV kicks it down the line

said by cchhat01:

I find that most people who come here - myself included sometimes - just whine about Karl's findings. Its a feeding frenzy where everyone feeds off each other's opinions.

WHO ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THESE THINGS. I DON'T.
I seriously want to but do we really do anything but just express our opinions ? We just go about our business on a day-to-day basis and expect someone else to take care of the crap.

PS. Don't want you to think that I'm venting on you or something (no offense). I just had to say what I felt like saying.

chiggy

I did. I cut the cord and told them that I wouldn't be back until they had a la-carte programming.
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dvd536
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said by winsyrstrife:

I suppose you could drop TV. If enough customers do, but opt to keep their Internet services, how long will it be before the charges imposed on TV services are passed to Internet services?...

Then the question becomes how many are willing to cut their Internet cord? I can't (I frequently telecommute).

It already is. since VIDEO subsidized hsi and many are cord cutting, hsi is seeing annual/bi-annual rate hikes.

if this comes to cox, i'll cut the cord. we're already overpaying by being forced ESPN. I only watch football and would only miss MNF. VERY EASY to do to save $112 / mo on tv.
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gordoco

join:2004-06-05
Boulder, CO

Dish Package without sports

The Dish Network Latino Dos package does not include ESPN or other sports channels. It includes a bunch of Spanish language channels but also many of the popular English language channels, and for me is less expensive than if I bought the English-only tier that includes the equivalent channels.

Of course, if CenturyLink would ever offer real broadband in my area rather than this 1.5 Mbps crap, I'd cut the cord (or rather, shoot down the satellite).
rick0204

join:2009-05-20
North Bergen, NJ

Outrageous!

Charging us an extra fee for channels that we are not able to unsubscribe from. How can any sane person justify this fee? Cablevision has a non-sports package - Economy - for $39.95. I would like to know if the surcharge applies to that package as well.

MxxCon

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Re: Outrageous!

Economy has "MSG Varsity" channel, so that will be CV's excuse to ratehike that package too.
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jtel

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Court Challenge

I think this opens the flood gate to allow customers who do not watch sports to challenge the fee because it's out in the open as a separate charge. It's itemizing it rather than bundling.

MxxCon

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Re: Court Challenge

I very much hope this will happen...
jtel

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Re: Court Challenge

Watch before the end of the year this will be in front of a Federal court.

Jon
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Meh

Everyone that has cable, IPTV etc.. pays for a lot of crap they never watch. It will always be the case until someone offers an a la carte option
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Re: Meh

The cable companies know what they are doing by breaking out the fee. It takes the bundle aspect away and would allow a customer to say I choose not to get the services associated with this fee.

The reason bundles haven't been challenged is that they are bundles.

The cable companies know this opens the door.

dvd536
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said by Jon:

Everyone that has cable, IPTV etc.. pays for a lot of crap they never watch. It will always be the case until someone offers an a la carte option

"Sure we'll give you ala carte, instead of the 300 channels you dont watch and the 10 you do for $85/mo, we'll give you the 10 you do watch for $10 each/mo"
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Sports fee for non sports channels

In my area, Comcast has included Turner Classic Movies and Fox Movie Channel (that my mother likes to watch) in the sports entertainment package. It's a moot point now as I subscribe to the Xfinity Triple Play Premier package that includes all the channels.

I just wish the cable/satellite providers would bring on the carriage disputes with ESPN as that channel makes up a good chunk of a cable bill with its high per-subscriber fee. Cable providers these days are not reluctant to blackout channels or clusters of channels to get their way with programming provider. I personally think ESPN should be a part of a premium sports package.
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whoyourdaddy

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company's still wont learn

keep it up keep it up keep increasing the was cost of cable people will cut the cord and the wonder why. anyway directv and the cable co' are bad on doing this increasing customers bills 2-3 times a year is plan sick.

Probitas

@teksavvy.com

subsidies

If business can't support itself on revenues from opt-in channels, then respectfully, those channels should die. At what point did we become used to paying for things that used to be provided over the air for free? We have to pay to watch commercials, which I find rank. If commercial programming can't support itself, charge more to the marketers, not the customer. I'm totally against paying for television with commercials, it's so bad even the movie channels have commercials.

It's like a lot of things, I think the main reason for these fees is because people are no longer taking it up the rear, cutting cable/sat services and moving to internet services which are of the same quality at far less prices, without all the commercials. And just try to force those companies to increase their costs, the don't even own the lines the service is provided on, and can do little to justify increased costs without some telecom company raising the rates on them to carry the service they stream.
whoyourdaddy

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Re: subsidies

have the commercial programming pay more to be on the channels
don't make the customers pay more

MxxCon

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said by Probitas :

If business can't support itself on revenues from opt-in channels, then respectfully, those channels should die.

Or lower their running costs.
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yeah it stinks that you can't watch hardly any college football bowl games on local tv. MOST of them are on ESPN which is a crying shame. Of course the NCAA won't tell abc/espn to show them on local tv for those that don't want to or can't afford cable tv.

xpbx
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just more of the same

broken promises. i wish they'd stop using that excuse
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drop in demand

with the rise of online streaming and freely available content the old business model will not survive. higher prices just expedite this process. in 5 years, the triple play bundle will probably die out.. as there is very little demand for video and all the expense it contains.. set-top rental, franchise fees, taxes, etc. you potentially have NONE of that with free streaming. whatever you watch is what your electricity pays for from the cablemodem/router/monitor(tv) and/or computer.

with all the scandals in sports these days their greed for more money astonishes... as if more money will make sports more respectable. imo, most sports have dragged their ratings down to reality tv junk. infact they should be paying you to watch.

JoshD

@optonline.net

Cablevision sports surcharge

Every time there's a dispute over retransmission charges and a channel is temporarily removed from Cablevision, people complain. Back when the Yes network was new and Cablevision at first refused to pay the extortion, people complained to their representatives. The mayor of New York, and local senators and representatives pressured the two sides to come to an "agreement". When Cablevision refused to pay the extortion for Disney/ABC and ABC took WABC and other channels off, people complained to their elected representatives. Same thing happened when Fox was off and same (but less) with Food Network. If customers stop complaining about the loss of their favorite channels but instead wished them "good riddance", then this upward spiral would stop. Yes, we need a la carte pricing but we also need to be able to say to broadcast networks "how dare you" when they pull their channels off the cable systems or extort money for programs that are supported by advertising. The sports networks fight very hard to maintain themselves as part of a "basic" tier and when there is a threat to stop carrying them, viewers blame the cable companies. It's really time to demand that the cable companies remove any channel that charges more than a minimal monthly fee ($0.50 or so) from their basic lineup and make it a subscription channel. If people really want ESPN, let them pay the $5 per month that we're all paying. Or, better yet, lets get professional sports salaries out of the stratosphere and bring all of the costs down.
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merry go round

the fact is more and more of these media companies are in fewer and fewer hands so those who are left will have to just deal with what remains.. I'm just waiting for the next shoe to drop.. either AT&T or Verizon will buy out one of the remaining companies (broadcast media holdings)... Disney, Fox, CBS/Upn/PIX.

if you want a-la-carte, you have to go to the internet for it.. cable companies as they are & seem to perpetually be a take it or leave it proposition. cord cutting is an end-to-a-means... and if your like the growing number of people who are fed up with media consolidation, out in the open propaganda and lame content which you no longer want to pay for amid ever increasing prices.. the internet is your answer. the only thing is, if you live in a broadband poor geography.. you're still screwed by these SAME monopolies. millions of consumers in the northeast wouldn't stand for it, that's why change happened (and is still a dysfunctional non-competitive market, the rest of the country is overcharged and underserved for wireline broadband, except google fiber). out in the country you have oodles more apathy to big businesses running amok.
nh5

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Old Bethpage, NY

Cablevision = MSG

I'm surprised I didn't see this in any of the above comments, but whats even more hilarious is Cablevision owns all the regional sports networks in their viewer areas. So effectively this is no more than a cash grab.
tmc8080

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Re: Cablevision = MSG

said by nh5:

I'm surprised I didn't see this in any of the above comments, but whats even more hilarious is Cablevision owns all the regional sports networks in their viewer areas. So effectively this is no more than a cash grab.

I dunno, 99.99% of the time it's been ESPN pushing BASIC cable-tv bills higher. Cable companies have been sitting on a big fat boom era for quite some time... it's ripe for cord cutters to tear them a new one in this economy. There is precedent for subscribers cancelling even before the era of broadband when prices were too high. Higher set top rental fees and other fees have you pay $10+ even before subscription fees. That's like the good old days of POTS phone service with "FCC LINE CHARGE" and other surcharges just to watch TV?? Yeah, that's why the internet is so much better. The average person watches no more than 6 hours per day of content. The internet can easily satsify 98 - 99% of that craving. On a 50 megabit connection you have bits to spare, but more is always better.

Eddy120876

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Bronx, NY
Yeah Cablevision is the owners of MSG and if you are a (Knicks,Rangers,Nets fan etc) you are screw also a few years back they even screw the yank fan. Same goes for then dropping the channels that carries The Dominican Republics winter baseball channel because they said the content provider was charging then more and in reality they wanted to block them transmitting to other providers(Fios and dish network)