 | | We've been alerted by Cablevision customers.... So Cablevision customers, after sitting on hold with Cablevision, took the time to call Fox and report the web site some $6 an hour service rep suggested?
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| Re: We've been alerted by Cablevision customers.... said by Camelot One:So Cablevision customers, after sitting on hold with Cablevision, took the time to call Fox and report the web site some $6 an hour service rep suggested? I call Bullshit. No -- all they had to do was read Newsday. There was an article detailing how to receive Fox broadcasts, and in the article they even acknowledged the questionable legality of it. What made the article more amusing was the fact that Newsday (being owned by Cablevision) did not offer the perfectly legal options of switching to FIOS or DirecTV in order to gain access to Fox programming.
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | This is an election year . . . and you can bet your sweet ass that if the World Series is blacked out due to this fiasco, the politicians and congress-critters will get involved. | |
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| | | Re: This is an election year . . . no legal rights to get in the middle. | |
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USA | Re: This is an election year . . . No legal rights to be sure, but they'll do it anyway. What about the andro cases and stupid shit like that? They'll claim no legal right until one of them can't get the series at their own house. Then watch the mud fly... | |
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Boston, MA | Re: This is an election year . . . Not fcc, congress. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: This is an election year . . . still none. they cant but their asses into private businesses when regards to this matter. no legal body does. | |
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1 edit | Re: This is an election year . . . Yup, that's how it SHOULD be, but Congress does it all the time. Remember when the last NFL regular season game in 2007 (Giants vs. Patriots in what turned out to be a Super Bowl preview) was being carried only on NFL Network and Congress threatened hearings? The game ended up being simulcasted on CBS, NBC, and Fox. | |
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Additionally, there is ample "right" involved in FCC and FTA regulations for them to get involved as well. The government has long held that it owns the "airwaves" and only allows the commercial networks to use them until they need them. Make no mistake, if Space Ghost put a burr under President Obama's saddle, we'd be watching the State of the Union on the Cartoon Network. | |
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| | TheGhostPremium
join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL | Will probably make some law going back where "in market" OTA signals must be carried, but cannot be charged for. They changed it one way, they can change it back. Cablevision is only acting like a big antennae, and not the best one at that, for the OTA signals. | |
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| | Screw Baseball, what about the important shows? Don't care about Fox with there sports crap, as long as they get this cleared up before Simpson's comes back... | |
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|  OmegaDisplaced OhioanPremium
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Screw Baseball, what about the important shows? Simpsons should have been canceled 10 years ago.
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Mount Laurel, NJ | Re: Screw Baseball, what about the important shows? You should have gotten a sense of humor 20 years ago. :P | |
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| | | | said by Omega:Simpsons should have been canceled 10 years ago. Agreed. Simpsons jumped the shark. | |
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join:2007-02-19
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join:2007-02-19
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kudos:2 | One word: Hulu. | |
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| | | | Re: Screw Baseball, what about the important shows? Hulu doesn't magically uninterrupt a show that built the network up | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Screw Baseball, what about the important shows? Unfortunately no. | |
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| |  ParogadiWhat? Stop Looking At Me Like ThatPremium
join:2003-03-31
Racine, WI | News Corp is part owner of Hulu, they blocked it from them as well. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Screw Baseball, what about the important shows? Then they reinstated access. | |
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| | | | Re: Screw Baseball, what about the important shows? said by r81984:Simpsons is not funny anymore which is very hard for me to say since I grew up with them. Fox destroyed the show. That's a little harsh. It's still the same show it's always been, but it's been on for so long they seem to have run out of really good ideas. Nobody did anything to 'destroy' it.
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Racine, WI | Re: Screw Baseball, what about the important shows? Thus it's no longer the same show. The bridge is over, it's gone everywhere it can go and can go no further. It should have been allowed to die with dignity, but instead it'd rotting corpse is still being dangled out in this macabre puppet show for all to see what once was.
I.E. If you ever got why it was good in the first place you get that it's been going on 10 years too long now.
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| | HDTV Antenna I purchased a 30 dollar HDTV antenna and it gets Fox 5 just fine so I have not missed any of my NY Giants games. Ditto for the world series if I should choose to watch. My9 is not a channel that I watch (and it's over the air reception is terrible) I am sure in News Corps eyes this is cheating. I for one am tired of the BS and getting my tv channels held hostage as a negotiating tactic. | |
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|  EvelKubKitty is crazyPremium
join:2002-03-17
Phoenix, AZ | Re: HDTV Antenna Just wait till they sue you... ;P | |
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|  John2JonnieI'm An XXy Kinda GirlPremium
join:2000-08-11
NJ
kudos:3 | Same here. For only $29 I can sit back and let them hash at it all they want.
Unfortunately this is not a solutions for many people out of range or have structure blockage of signals. | |
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| | | GJ. If more ppl would hook up antennae, perhaps we could actually see cable TV prices more in line with the rest of the economy. You don't need cable (or any pay service) to watch the World Series (and/or simpsons) legally | |
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| | Negotiations? "Of course if Fox didn't want people exploring alternative ways of viewing Fox content, they could have oh -- not pulled the plug on Cablevision customers and just negotiated new rates like a big boy. All Fox appears to be accomplishing is teaching people that they can save $100+ a month on cable TV by using Internet video, piracy, sports bars or some combination thereof."
Given that Cablevision dragged its feet for 2 years while ABC kept the signal on when they were negotiating with Cablevision, what's to say that Cablevision won't do the same thing? | |
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join:2001-05-20
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | "....and justin.tv" ahha I love how this non-sense between these two companies is going to allow even the simpliest of folk's to finally go to a sports bar, a friends house, or even watch it pirated online for free! | |
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join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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| sad At least it sounds like the market area is served by some good OTA.
Hook up an antenna and enjoy NOT paying for a channel, and probably several others 
Could this move also make more people drop cable altogether, thus forcing both sides to "lose"??? Then again, Fox still gets paid by -ADVERTISERS- (which is still a LOT of money), whether or not people watch via antenna or cable.
Would be pissed to miss Fringe when it returns. | |
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|  Vamp9190Premium
join:2002-02-11
Chantilly, VA
kudos:1 | Re: sad said by amungus:Hook up an antenna and enjoy NOT paying for a channel, and probably several others This makes no sense. OTA channels are part of your (normal) Cable package, you get them included for the total monthly price you pay.
There is no option for dropping individual channels & paying a lower cost (AKA: A' la cart). | |
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join:2004-11-26
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| Re: sad I thought the article referred to the cable company dropping channels which can be received OTA... so hooking up an antenna would then allow one to hopefully receive said 'dropped' channels, amongst other OTA channels. How does this not make sense? | |
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| | Deal DAMNIT FOX stop the fucking bullshit and get it done already | |
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| | Is cablevision reducing their monthly price for customers? Given that they have not delivered Fox channels for a week now, and may not for a while in the future, is Cablevision planning to refund to its customers the amount that they are *not* paying Fox? | |
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| | | Re: Is cablevision reducing their monthly price for customers? Why you guys all on cablevision? I mean seriously get on FOX bout it aren't you sick and tired of you bills going up every time? I applaud what cablevision is doing go get a freaking antenna till they hash it out. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | $2 per month multiplied by the number of months the signal is black. So far they owe their customers $1... | |
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Not just Long Island Where did you get that pic? | |
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| | hmm I would think cablevision can last a lot longer then fox can on this. The NYC area has a ton of cablevision subscribers. Thats about 3 million people that are not getting advertising from fox or watching fox shows. I would think fox is getting a big hit on this.
Cablevision can just take $3 a month or so off peoples bills and then can just wait this out.
I am hoping cablevision sticks to its guns and this forces the governmenty or the fcc to rethink its position on this and change the laws for the better. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: hmm You know...I agree with you. Then again, Hulu still works, and I watch my sports at a restaurant, not in my living room. | |
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| | | said by majortom1029:I am hoping cablevision sticks to its guns and this forces the governmenty or the fcc to rethink its position on this and change the laws for the better. Sorry but the laws WERE exactly how the cable companies wanted them, before they sued to change them. | |
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We call on the FCC to intervene immediately to restore the Fox signals to Cablevision’s 3 million homes and order News Corp. to agree to binding arbitration to resolve this conflict.
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join:2004-03-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL | If only it was the Yankees in the World Series If I knew this was gonna happen, I would've rooted for the Yankees to get to the World Series. Then these idiots would really be in deep shit.
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join:2003-10-23
Harvard, IL | Dish issue too Dish network has the same crap going on.
Its a mess, no credit to users either.
I dont put all the blame on fox, or dish, its a mess.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Olive Branch Not fig leaf. | |
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Ashburn, VA | Re: Olive Branch I believe a fig leaf needs to be used to hide this ugly mess. | |
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join:2009-10-01
Pflugerville, TX Reviews:
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| Pulling for Cablevision and Dish Too bad this wasn't Comcast in DC. I wonder if FOX would have the guts.
I hope Cablevision and Dish hang in there. I'm a Dish subscriber who hopes Dish doesn't cave on this one. I won't switch to another provider, as I've been very happy with Dish, but I do have an OTA, so I won't be missing anything on the FOX network. Could care less about the regionals and NATGEO. Go Rangers! | |
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join:2002-02-03
Darien, CT
kudos:1 | hdtuner I have had an hdtuner for over 10 years, and in this situation, it would be handly...except, here in CT, we get fox on another chanel so, no blackout here except for local NYC news. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Corporatist right wing Rupert showing his true colors. FOX isn't a government entity. Also, viewing sports programs on TV isn't a right. Nor is it necessary to live. Kind of like health insu...wait, did I just say that?!? | |
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| | | said by Mr Matt:If Rupert were not so greedy FOX could come to an agreement with Cablevision in a heartbeat. The FOX attitude like the rest of the entertainment industry is profits first consumers last. Newsflash - profit is the ONLY DAMN REASON to have a business in the first place. There is NO OTHER CONSIDERATION! You can argue that certain things are immoral and shouldn't be allowed, but this isn't one of them. It's just a bunch of television shows. They don't matter, not even a little bit. Fox can charge whatever the hell they want for their content and consumers can either buck up or walk away.
Nice partisan political rant, though. We definitely need more of that nonsense on the internet.
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| | | | Re: Corporatist right wing Rupert showing his true colors. Amen to everything you just said!!!
Like Rupert is supposed to put consumer interest before profits... Geez the leftwing partisan morons are really coming out now. | |
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| | I hope they never give in Too bad CV is caving already by willing to pay the same as TW. They should not be charged at all for providing us a signal we can get for free with an antenna. Besides, in this day and age these channels should be streaming their content live 24x7 anyway. CV is therefore doing them a favor by carrying their shitty local channels.
This is like websites trying to charge search engines to display them in results. Absolutely nuts. Cable companies need to take a stand against all content providers and cut them off if they ask for payment. I therefore hope they never give in to News corps. demands. | |
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| | | Re: I hope they never give in said by ionosphere:They should not be charged at all for providing us a signal we can get for free with an antenna. It was exactly like that before the cable companies sued the FCC because they wanted to pick and choose who they wanted to carry.
So we ended up with a situation where stations could decide to charge or not, or force must carry. The cable companies brought this upon themselves and now they're crying?
By the way, where is Fuse on Dish?
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Corporatist right wing Rupert showing his true colors.
Are you sure the fig leaf wasn't Poison Ivy. Corporatist right wing Rupert is demonstrating his true Greedy Old Pig philosophy. Put FOX profits ahead of consumer interests. Remember Rupert had no problem giving a Million Dollars to the Greedy Old Pig Party. You know the party that wants the middle class buy each Billionaire a Rolls Royce by cutting the wealthiest 2% of our citizens Federal Taxes by over $100,000.00. Rupert gives to the rich and screws the poor.