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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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1 edit | well Ok so what is new Google now has stock holders to please. Let's what and see what Google says about this, and we can decide to believe them or not. I can't say I am to worried about it.
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John Galt
Forward, March
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| Calling All Programmers Someone write a small program that does Google searches on random key words...say 20 at a time. Then it picks 20 other random key words and keeps going. Ten "googles" a minute....
It just searches random key words, over and over. After a while, the results wouldn't make any sense or be of any use to Google or the "overseers".
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jDyno
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1 edit | Re: Calling All Programmers Because that wouldn't be easy to spot and automatically weed out. /sarcasm  | |
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winterforge
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clubs:  | Blah Blah blah blah....anyone who is big and makes money is evil. Next... How about something different on here for once?
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join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | Re: Blah Blah blah blah....another commenter with absolutely nothing relevent or insightful to contribute. Next... How about something different on here for once? | |
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BIGMIKE
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
| said by winterforge  :Blah blah blah....anyone who is big and makes money is evil. Next... How about something different on here for once? Blah Blah Blah Same all Same-Same. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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| waaaa! Oh pissed, that I beat you all out, what did you want a Shakespearian speech................ok
St. Crispen's Day Speech
Shakespeare's HENRY V
C. 1599
Enter the KING
WESTMORELAND. O that we now had here
But one ten thousand of those men in England
That do no work to-day!
KING. What's he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark'd to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Re: waaaa! said by Transmaster :... KING. ... And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remembered- ...
Uh, yeah. When is Saint Crispin's Day again?
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
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1 edit | Re: waaaa! said by calvoiper :said by Transmaster :... KING. ... And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remembered- ... Uh, yeah. When is Saint Crispin's Day again? calvoiper The 25th of October is St. Crispin, and St. Crispian's memorial day. They were brothers in Roman Gaul in the 3rd centaury AD. They are the patron saints of leather workers, and where martyred Circa 286 AD.
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CPM
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Miami, FL | Re: Blah Yadda Yadda yadda... | |
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WALL_E
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| There are Indeed Concerns, but Article is Biased While I do believe that there are some legitimate privacy concerns related to Google, it also seems that part one of the articles referenced to in this story is biased, and heavily at that. For example, the article states "In addition, Google reads users' private e-mail sent through its Gmail service and private e-mail stored on users' hard drives through its desktop-search software." In my opinion, the statement that "Google reads..." implies that the text is more than merely search electronically for keywords, but that it is actually comprehended, which is not the case. Furthermore, it seems to imply that Google is somehow aware of the emails you have stored on your computer. Google's software is, but Google sure isn't, at least not to the extent of GMail - the emails Google indexes on your hard drive are never sent back to or analyzed by Google. In a sense, Google's email indexing is about as much of a threat to your privacy as your email program's spell checker. It may make it easier for people with access to your computer to see private emails, but Google never sees any of it.
All and all, and interesting read, and I do agree that Google poses some threat to privacy, but as of late, barking about Google's threat seems to be more of the "in" thing to do, and this article can be tossed into that pile, IMHO. | |
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TKJunkMail
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| Re: There are Indeed Concerns, but Article is Biased said by WALL_E :All and all, and interesting read, and I do agree that Google poses some threat to privacy, but as of late, barking about Google's threat seems to be more of the "in" thing to do, and this article can be tossed into that pile, IMHO. Zeroing in on Google is so myopic. Everyone's ISP, thru use of network sniffing tools, can see everything you do on the internet that is not encrypted. Face it. Everything you do online(except encrypted info)is out there to be seen and captured if someone wants to go thru the trouble. But who wants to go to the trouble, unless you are some important personage or a target of the FBI, NSA, CIA, homeland security, etc.
Anyone who bothers to trace my unencrypted info will be bored to death.
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sapo
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
| Super Special I give Google everything... Social Security Numbers, Credit Card numbers and all my personal info with picture. So far so good... Later on I need to send them a suitcase full of cash.
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA | Begin to worry?? Some of us have been worried since we first read about (and decided to avoid) gmail. | |
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Actr24
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MikegotOOL
join:2001-01-21
East Setauket, NY
clubs: | Re: Begin to worry?? DUMP THE STOCK!!!!SELLLLLLLL! | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Begin to worry?? said by MikegotOOL :DUMP THE STOCK!!!!SELLLLLLLL! last i checked it was $285 a share. WOW
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John Galt
Forward, March
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| said by Dagda1175 :Some of us have been worried since we first read about (and decided to avoid) gmail. You guys worry too much...!
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AnnaS8
join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD | Gmail? Gmail has privacy issues? I am the last to know anything. Could someone enlighten me? | |
| tenorsaw1
join:2003-07-10
Brooklyn, NY | No problems with Gmail All I know is that I get plenty of junk mail from my MSN account and zero from Gmail. Go figure. I agree with the other poster. It seems like every company that makes it big becomes a target. | |
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| Re: No problems with Gmail said by tenorsaw1 :All I know is that I get plenty of junk mail from my MSN account and zero from Gmail. Go figure. I agree with the other poster. It seems like every company that makes it big becomes a target. Agreed. I have used gmail exclusively for a year now. NOT 1 shred of spam ever. And as far as the privacy thing, I used a fake name when I got the account...lol..tho I am sure it doesn't matter.
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NEP1611
join:2002-03-27
Northford, CT
| You Had Me at "Professor" As soon as I see the words "professor", or "law professor" I brace myself for what, invariably, will be an ultra-liberal point of view, with a questionable connection to the real world.
Why do you think ABC, the AP, etc. always go to college professors (and specifically law professors) for their takes on the issues of the day? And it's so hard to argue with it, because in a vacuum their points sound so good. However, in the real world, it's another story entirely.
What I think people fail to realize that, by its nature, in the academic world, professors and academics lose a certain level of awareness with the real world. Yet at the same time, safe in this insular, idyllic environment, they feel free to comment on how the world should be, what companies are doing wrong, what the President is doing wrong, etc. Never mind the fact that they couldn't be nearly as accomplished in the real world (but people who ARE successful in the real world can, and often do, cross over into the world of academia.) (Well, either that, or they are just happy that someone came out on TV and said something they agree with.)
Granted, academia has its own caste structure and fiefdoms and pressures, and some people will thrive in it better than others. But it really gets my goat when people sit in an ivory tower, high above it all, and comment and attack, criticize and nit-pick when they have no clue how things really work in the arena.
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1 edit | Re: You Had Me at "Professor" said by NEP1611 :As soon as I see the words "professor", or "law professor" I brace myself for what, invariably, will be an ultra-liberal point of view, with a questionable connection to the real world. As if the "conservative" view has any better a connection to the "real world." They both exist in a factual vacuum most of the time.
Never mind the fact that they couldn't be nearly as accomplished in the real world (but people who ARE successful in the real world can, and often do, cross over into the world of academia.) Wow, guilty of the same elitism you accuse people in academia of... Nice.
"Those who can, do, those who can't, teach, and those who can't teach, substitute teach." Teaching and doing are not exclusive concepts... | |
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join:2000-06-01
Silver Spring, MD
| what about intelligent design? isnt that a conservative backed movement? Using fake professors too....hahaha
sorry, i'll take the professors that base their theories on provable facts as opposed to the "professors" that try to ignore any such facts as "just theories"
yay professors....hooray knowledge....ignore what this guy says.... | |
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NEP1611
join:2002-03-27
Northford, CT
| Re: You Had Me at "Professor" OK, I have cleaned off all the rotten tomatoes and can now respond.
Look, all I am trying to say is that some people want you to believe that, as a group, professors are these all-wise, all-knowing fountains of knowledge, with no agenda other than telling the truth. This is absolute garbage. The fact is that many profs HAVE an agenda, it just isn't the corporate, pro-money agenda. But it's an agenda, all the same, and woe to those who don't fall in line.
How do you think people who have opinions that run counter to the more powerful profs fare on their home turf? And don't kid yourself and think that "liberal" is synonymous for "open-minded" and "conservative" is synonymous for "ignorant" or "myopic", as some people would have you believe.
As Bobby Darin's crew said in "Beyond the Sea": "(Darin) may be an ass hole - but he's OUR ass hole!" I think this attitude explains the reverence reserved not only for liberal leaning professors, but also of people like Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, etc. Some people are SO against corporations, or George Bush, or whatever, that they'll support anything or anyone who happens to share the same opposition. It almost doesn't matter what their own agendas are, or how intolerant they are of the other side or the facts, or their character. If they support your point of view, terrific! Where do I sign up? But don't kid yourselves into thinking that anyone in prominence takes a position without a hidden agenda.
By the way, to the guy who asked if I would quit my job and balance the liberal bias: I'm working on it. Unfortunately the only offer I've gotten so far is to be a junior assistant at a backwater community college in the Ozarks. Hey, Einstein started as a patent clerk, so maybe it's worth a shot.:D | |
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Stop All The Downloadin
join:2003-08-20
New York, NY
| i trust them I don't know why. They have a pretty logo.
I use google for email, all my web searches, a web portal, and even have search history turned on (so there is a record of everything I've searched for since it was enabled). They can track whatever they want.
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Cop
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Auburn, AL
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| Re: i trust them Im getting sick of these small tech sites always writing something against google. Ive been using them for at least 3 years now and have my primary email with them. Know why? Google kicks ass!
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koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
| Yes and no. I trust Google when it comes to feeding them tracking information for all of the URLs I look up using their search engine.
I do not trust Google's IE Toolbar "Advanced" mode (I choose non-advanced mode), as giving a company access to my browser in such a way that could allow them to see locally cached pages + cookie storage and transmit that information back to them is a general Bad Idea(tm).
I do not trust Google with access to my shell/FTP account (re: Blogger.com). I'll gladly give them this information and use Blogger.com assuming they give me a shell/FTP account on one of their corporate servers. 
I do not trust Google with any of my personal information that I submit to them directly (web pages don't count, as whatever is out there is out there). I'm referring to thinks like Orkut, where if you read the TOS/EULA, you'll find that in the case that they sell it to a third-party company, you agree to accept whatever the third-party's terms are regarding your account information and all info stored in your account.
The bottom line for me is, generally speaking, I do not trust Google for most things (one of many reasons I've turned down two job offers there) -- but for general searching and tracking results via www.google.com, I'm cool with them.
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winky
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join:2001-02-11
Saint Louis, MO
| Try this on for size.. Every time someone writes something down it suddenly becomes the truth. Newsfactor is nothing more than an advertising driven forum for manufacturers to tout their wares. The content is there to entice you to read the magazine. You can get a subscription for free if you're in the industry or pay a ridiculous price for it if your not. In other words, they don't care if you read the magazine if the ads aren't relevant to you. This is not journalism and it's not very good IT news either. Harold Krent however is probably the foremost authority on writing articles for obscure trade magazines. No, not really, he could be a small grey kitten with a pink bow for all I know. I do know from reading the article that he says nothing that anyone doesn't already know. You could take out "GOOGLE" and insert any entity on the internet with impunity and not change the article one bit. I might mention that Chicago-Kent College of Law ranks as 65 out of 100 top graduate schools by usnews.com and it's actual name is Illinois Institute of Technology. Harold is fond of making appearances and writing articles on privacy, etc. he has also argued before the Supreme Court so he's no slouch. Unfortunately, while Mr. Krent has some excellent ideas on privacy and the internet, these type of concerns, while valid, just get people excited for no reason. It's similar to a headline proclaiming "Home Depot Endangers Vital Oxygen Producing Plants in U.S." Yeah, they sell lawnmowers, and riding lawnmowers to boot,those bastards!.
So all in all I guess it just gives the hens in the hen house something to cluck about.
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The Folsom
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Yucaipa, CA
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| I Wish I Could Say... I don't have any personal information; I am no one; I don't exist...
But the fact remains: I do have LOADS of personal information floating around out there; I am someone; I exist...
But am I afraid? No.
My credit rating is such that my identity is worth less than worthless; no one who knows me wants to; even GOD doesn't like me very much. The only entities who even pretend to like me are spammers and telemarketers, but I either dump them or hang up on them. Even Dale Gribble has more friends than do I...
And that's just the way I like it. (Except for the GOD part...)
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|  okay...
Say you're looking for movie times. You type "movie times" into google, and hit search. I'm pretty sure there's not a programmer sitting there going "HOLY SHIT! THIS GUY IS LOOKING UP MOVIE TIMES! LOLOLOLOLOL" It doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure Google could care less about what people search for. | |
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OMGWOW
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| Re: trust I just found this out!!
Can someone please explain this to me...
I will not reveal the exact issue but a similar one....
1) User checks that he has NO COOKIES!!!!
2) User goes to google.com
3) User searches the term of a "major retailer" (EXAMPLE ONLY)
4) WITHOUT CLICKING ON ANY SEARCH RESULTS RETURNED, User then checks cookies, and oh my god, not only does he have the usual cookie from google.com, but he has *TWO* additional new cookies and they come from that "major retailer . com"........
So, it seems Google is putting cookies on user's computers from third party companies after they perform a search related to the company (WITHOUT CLICKING ON THE SHOPPING COMPANY OR ANY OTHER RETURNED LISTINGS...)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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join:2005-06-01
Odenton, MD | Re: trust They aren't on my system. I specifically reject all third party cookies. It's amazing how clean you can keep a system that way.
Of course, I also run adblock, and filtersetG. | |
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reflex9
join:2004-02-09
| Privacy policy is unclear I do not trust Google because it's privacy policy is unclear about many things. Especially GMail is dubious right now. I know that many people have heard it all before but ignore it. After all GMail is free and works well. In that case people often get blinded by possible negative aspects. Conmen and child molesters frequently abuse this human reaction.
GMail is scanning your email. Does it only use the email you are watching to determine which ads to show or are they creating a profile about your habits? This is a big difference. The privacy policy is not clear. They do say that they register any click you make in GMail, be it UI elements or text ads. This shows that the ability to profile your habits is there. And if they are profiling you, do they also include your Google searches?
There are many questions and Google is not answering them. Even if Google is not profiling people right now it is clear to me that they want to keep that option open. This is not a company i trust my personal data to. Do you want Google to know more about you than your own mother? | |
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join:2003-05-10
Micmac, NS
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About google reading emails, I believe that but wow someone finally notice that, Do a search of your own user name or full email address you should come up with something I did »www.google.ca/search?sourceid=na···Eepitjij | |
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