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| jsb825Premium
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Exeter, NH | Canada is the NEW USA!!! can someone say NEW WORLD ORDER? | |
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Riverview, FL | lol ....points and laughs. Well at least you still have maple syrup and stuff :P | |
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Manitowoc, WI | More government abusing powers Theres nothing patriotic about this law  | |
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| | | Re: This won't pass said by adisor19:Conservatives are hanging by a thread. There is no way in hell this will become law. There will be elections come this fall and the project will fall. Adi Don't count on it. Maybe your government will contact Dick Cheney for advice on creating your own "9/11". After that, it's all over. | |
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Yeah - and Obama states that his government is transparent.
It'll get slid in before elections, and whatever new regime there is, they won't change it enough to make a difference. | |
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| | | | Re: This won't pass said by en102:Yeah - and Obama states that his government is transparent. It'll get slid in before elections, and whatever new regime there is, they won't change it enough to make a difference. well...if you have nothing to hide...
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1 edit | Think progress Ah, the ugly side of cheap, instant & content-rich communications comes home to roost. It's a global one-way trip, I'm afraid. The interesting part comes when IPv6 hits it's stride.
I've often been bothered that BBR comments on IPv6 center around address capacity rather than threats to privacy and loss of end-user control. | |
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join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
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| Sounds like a fair trade to me. American citizens are going to wind up with Canada's Health Care System while Canada's citizens will be subject to our Security Template.
Must be some sort of undeclared war we're fighting.
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|  major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
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Stepford, CA | Re: Sounds like a fair trade to me. said by Noah Vail:American citizens are going to wind up with Canada's Health Care System [...] I wouldn't go that far because it's like saying hybrid vehicles will end up mainstream. Hint: As long as there is one drop of gas left to suck out of the ground and as long as white collar criminal insurers like Blue Cross et al. are around, this country will never never see anything close to what the Canucks have.
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|  NOVA_GuyObamaCare Kills AmericansPremium
join:2002-03-05 | The ironic thing is that the proposals from each of the countries seem crafted to drive people from each nation, rather to to it.
In America, we'll wind up with a crappy government-run health system that has you waiting months to get an MRI. Employers will be required to provide/pay for health insurance, and employees will be required to carry a plan of some sort. And all who work will wind up paying for the lazy, worthless ones who don't.
In Canada, they'll wind up with an overzealous, over-reaching government that's power-drunk and paranoid.
In the end, the only difference between the two countries will be that at least we in the states will still have our firearms to hold government tyranny somewhat at bay... unless Obama and Biden get their way with that too.
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In canada the citizens pay for health insurance in the form of income tax.
Companies are only required to pay for dental and prescriptions to offer full benefits (but are not mandatory) | |
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| said by NOVA_Guy:In America, we'll wind up with a crappy government-run health system that has you waiting months to get an MRI. As long as Americans keep talking like this, we'll never address the perversions in our medical system which demand reform.
We've used public law to create a "market" of medical goods and services that wouldn't exist if it was left to the "wants and needs" of willing buyers and sellers. The effect is that it's the best system in the world *if* you can afford it. If you can't, you have no choices to buy what you *can* afford.
You can't choose to see a doctor who has 7 years of education. Or, visit a hospital accredited by an alternative (and lower quality) medical association.
From that perspective, there's nothing different between the person who can afford an MRI waiting 4 months, or the person who can't (and can't even afford to see a doctor to *find out they need an MRI*) getting nothing no matter how long they wait.
Until people address that problem, I guarantee you we're going to have more "redistribution" of this socially-created market. Maybe when it's *everyone's* problem there will be political will to solve it. Right now, all I see are comments like yours ("don't gore my ox.").
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | Not exactly Accurate NSLs have existed well before the Patriot Act, the Patriot act just loosened the controls on using them (and, coincidentally, opened the floodgates their use).
Carnivore also existed prior to the Patriot Act. However, it eventually (sort of) died because the FBI found better ways to achieve the same ends.
So, if the Canadians are trying to play catchup, it's with stuff that pre-dates the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act mostly acted as a "go nuts with the powers you've already had" type of bill.
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Windsor, ON
1 edit | Yippie! Here comes a tax hike.
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| Hopefully we get another election? Seems the only thing thats kept the conservatives from passing some really bad legislation, is that they're always under the threat of election.
they were going to pass a poorly constructed copyright bill last time, now this.
I fear the day the conservatives ever get a majority government. I hope we have minority governments forever to try and keep anything our political leaders can think up from passing. | |
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|  TLS2000Crazy CanuckPremium
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Mississauga, ON | Re: Hopefully we get another election? The Liberals before the conservatives were pushing copyright reform bills too. Don't go thinking that either of those parties is going to look out for the best interests of Canadians if they're given a majority government.
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| Re: Hopefully we get another election? said by TLS2000:The Liberals before the conservatives were pushing copyright reform bills too. Don't go thinking that either of those parties is going to look out for the best interests of Canadians if they're given a majority government. I don't really disagree with that. I'm a big fan of minority goverments. We don't have checks and balances in Canada... if we elect a majority, its a 4 or 5 year dictatorship.. minority goverments prevent any signifigant legislation from passing, which in my books is generally a good thing. | |
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Woodstock, ON | Re: Hopefully we get another election? We have checks and balances in Canada. It's called the senate, the problem is the senate is stacked with Liberals, as such it's lopsided one way and uneven not representing the public. | |
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the same corrupt power that controls the Bank of Canada, the Fed, all the large corporations, drug companies, world bank, media and of course our politicians all have the same main goal.
Please everyone, stop looking a the puppet masters aka PM and Pres and look at who are pulling their strings. "Politics" are a distraction. These people are evil and we are in for a battle our lifetime.
Canadian citizens are completely asleep. Perhaps the North American Union will wake us up. Hopefully the awaking will occur before it's too late.
Please research the Federal Reserve, Banking system, NWO, anything to gain knowledge. | |
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join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON | Re: Hopefully we get another election? Yes we do. Well it always was said that people use conspiracy theories to make sense of what they don't understand. Thanks for proving it true. | |
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join:2009-05-14 | nooooooooooo  damn you harper!
dont let this pass please | |
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join:2001-02-26
Sherwood, MI
1 edit | Give it a name.. that you'd have to be a terrorist to vote against, ensure 100% Ayes or Ouis. | |
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Etobicoke, ON | I like what this dude says..... »itnerd.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/···ptastic/
"Let’s see, the Conservative Government is in a minority situation. That means that it can be voted out by the opposition parties at any time. So that means if a large number of Canadians e-mail their Members of Parliament and tell them that these bills suck, then it is likely that these bills may get shelved as this government wants to stay in power." | |
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| MashikiBalking The Enemy's Plans
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Woodstock, ON Reviews:
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| Re: I like what this dude says..... The guy is an idiot and doesn't understand how the government works. If you're reading tripe like that you're an uninformed voter and need to start studying the political process and parties on your own.
Let me just say that anyone who thinks that this will get beyond being a traction issue for the upcoming election needs to do their civic duty and study politics more. If you're not, and voting on a whim because you're not studying. You get the government you deserve.
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| | CP Uh..ah..so, after reading up on this for a bit..im gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is really about child porn?
Look Mr. LEA, CP has been around since the 1960s, and while it is a fairly disgusting and immoral thing to collect/trade/hoarde, you are no closer to getting rid of it than you were when it was legal in the 1970s. You might as well try and get rid of adult porn (never happen) or guns (also will never happen) or marijuana (definitely will never happen).
Not belittling the repulsiveness of those that are into this sort of trash, but law enforcement better realize that this ain't Iran. Start shooting at us, and someone is liable to shoot back. The enormous temptation to squash other liberties "for a little security" is blatantly obvious here, as one can see in the Todd Chism case:
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