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 |   milnoc
join:2001-03-05 H2Z
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future? said by TKJunkMail :Can we call this the "Welfare tier"? Even if you can't pay, you get broadband. Is this coming to the US? There's no way they'll consider universal Internet access as a benefit to their society. They're more likely to see it as a socialist conspiracy, just like universal health care. | |
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 |  nasadude
join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| we must be ever vigilant that some poor or struggling person or family doesn't get anything for free or reduced price. that's a waste of resources and socialism.
it's OK though if it's a large multinational corporation that contributes to congressional campaigns. | |
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 |   intlcelern11
| finland guarantees 320 gigabytes per month to each user. That's the throughput on 1mbit/s. | |
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 |   Ignite Premium,VIP join:2004-03-18 UK clubs:
·BlueYonder Interne..
·Be There
| said by TKJunkMail :From the linked story: » www.canada.com/technology/Canada···ory.htmlFinland officials announced Thursday that the country will now guarantee all citizens be legally entitled to a minimum broadband connection speed of one megabit per second.
It's the first country in the world to make universal minimum Internet access speeds a legal requirement. Can we call this the "Welfare tier"? Even if you can't pay, you get broadband. Is this coming to the US? Giving the pissing and moaning about the far more essential and humane universal health care I think you're quite safe from this happening in the USA.
Call it what you want, well done Finland for wanting to do this and improve the lives of their citizens. | |
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join:2007-12-17 | It's also much easier to guarantee internet to 5.5 million people than it is to 300 million people. | |
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join:2002-12-04 USA
| Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future? **maybe**
300 million worth of revenue is more than 5.5 million worth of revenue. So, it's possibly no difference. I think population density is a more determining factor than number of people. We have to look at this from several angles, don't ya know... | |
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join:2004-03-07 right here | Re: Universal Service of broadband in our future? It's called political will. Get some. | |
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 |  chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23 | i posted this what 4 days ago haha and you will never see it in western world until finish and swedes and the rest of the world gets so tech past us that there welfare cases are more educated | |
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 |  jjeffeory
join:2002-12-04 USA | Interesting perspective. I didn't think of it as such. We've been round and round in the original article, so no need to repeat my opinion here. | |
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  n2jtx
join:2001-01-13 Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online
| CRTC Having family in Canada I am well aware of the nonsense the Canadians go through. It amazes me at how non-transparent the CRTC is when it comes to giving the incumbents everything they want. At least the FCC goes through the pretense of looking out for the consumers before telling them to bend over. In Canada, the citizens don't even get the courtesy of a "bend over".
My sister has Rogers internet at home and they are always having to watch the meter to make sure they do not go over. With a family of six, they have to limit themselves to approximately 2GB/day in order to keep from going over. Granted some providers here in the U.S. have caps but most of them are pretty generous. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears. | |
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  El Quintron Could you spare a consulting gig?
join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON 1 edit | Canada the opposite of Finland Insert Yakov Smirnoff accent here:
In Canada government creates regulation to help business screw you!
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join:2003-10-21 Edmonton, AB
·TELUS
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Lack of competition? Canada has the same problem as the USA. There's two ways to wire broadband into every home. Via Phone Lines (DSL) and via CABLE (DOSCIS).
A Duopoloy doesn't really breed competition. So both ISP's seem to follow compete to decrease service instead of increase its (caps, throttling etc...).
The CRTC tried to make some competition with 3rd party ISP vendors. Those vendors rely on the original 2's infrastructure, and the CRTC doesn't protect them from that.
No new ISP is going to be able to lay down fibre or what not in an established city and turn a profit.
I think were stuck until wireless technology improves to the point where you no longer need to wire a city to compete. | |
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join:2002-12-04 USA 1 edit | Re: Lack of competition? Problem is that it's mostly the establish wired companies who have the money and licenses to deploy wireless. We pretty much end up with the same players in the wireless sector as we do in the wired sector. | |
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  Ignite Premium,VIP join:2004-03-18 UK clubs: | Let's See If Canada Really Do Take Heed... ... or under the direction of the industry staffed regulator just carry on taking it in the hindmost from the cableco/ILEC cartel's tacit collusion to protect profits and video revenues. | |
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