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kudos:5 | said by BosstonesOwn:Id be more ticked off at $1.70 a gig basically. When it costs less then .10 cents to carry a gig. I generally agree -- but is your 10 cent (or did you really mean .1 cent?) estimate valid for an Atlantic island?
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| | |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Re: Que Pendejos!! Yep. Puerto Rico has Fiber connections to the Internet, just like the rest of us. Their bandwidth expenses aren't really any different then ours, for example. | |
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Yeah, like running undersea fiber is as cheap as trenching the earth and covering it back up. Nor is it as plentiful as terrestrial fiber.
Having lived on an island for five years, I can tell you that *everything* is more expensive except sea water. | |
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| Re: Que Pendejos!! said by clickie:Yeah, like running undersea fiber is as cheap as trenching the earth and covering it back up. Nor is it as plentiful as terrestrial fiber. Maybe they should just run it in a trench on the ocean floor. Then you just use the cheaper terrestrial fiber. Or just run it aerial.  | |
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| said by funchords:said by BosstonesOwn:Id be more ticked off at $1.70 a gig basically. When it costs less then .10 cents to carry a gig. I generally agree -- but is your 10 cent (or did you really mean .1 cent?) estimate valid for an Atlantic island? Actually the $.10 cent is the highest traffic rates I have seen to any island. So I used that as the water mark. Checking Pr it's costing them $.005 a gig to the island and $.008 from they estimate it at $.006 a gig both ways on a bill.
Bear in mind that doesn't touch the last mile transport cost.
BTW living on an island can be quite cheap if you like fresh items but getting anything sent there does cost a small fortune.
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They contacted dslr and told them. DON'T take a hint, Comcast! | |
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kudos:2 | Re: At least they're straightforward said by furlonium:Give them that. They contacted dslr and told them. Take a hint, Comcast! NO, Don't take a hint Comcast. Do you realize that each Comcast customer that gets contacted for going over their bandwidth allocation used, on average, 200-600GB in a month?
If Comcast make the caps public, do you think it would be 200GB? NOPE! It would be 40-50GB.
So, DON'T TAKE A HINT COMCAST. Keep doing what you are doing. It works for the other 99% of your customers. | |
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1 edit | Re: At least they're straightforward said by Rob:If Comcast make the caps public, do you think it would be 200GB? NOPE! It would be 40-50GB. People say this all the time... "If they declare caps it will be really really low!"
Why, I ask. People say this, but have nothing to back it up. I think they are just pulling it out of thin air.
While knowing the CAP limit would encourage heavy users to monitor their usage, I don't see regular people suddenly modifying their Internet usage just because they found out what the Cap was.
It's not like John Q. Public is gonna suddenly go "I know let's host a bunch of P2P servers and run a public FTP site now that I know I can use up to 200GB..."
I think knowing the cap wouldn't alter regular users habits one bit. It would however, change the way they ADVERTISE their service. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: At least they're straightforward said by KrK:said by Rob:If Comcast make the caps public, do you think it would be 200GB? NOPE! It would be 40-50GB. People say this all the time... "If they declare caps it will be really really low!" Why, I ask. People say this, but have nothing to back it up. I think they are just pulling it out of thin air. While knowing the CAP limit would encourage heavy users to monitor their usage, I don't see regular people suddenly modifying their Internet usage just because they found out what the Cap was. It's not like John Q. Public is gonna suddenly go "I know let's host a bunch of P2P servers and run a public FTP site now that I know I can use up to 200GB..." I think knowing the cap wouldn't alter regular users habits one bit. It would however, change the way they ADVERTISE their service. I don't want a service with a 60GB cap. That's the bottom line. Comcast will not put public caps at 100GB or more. Because if htey do, then they'll have customers who will use 99GB every month, never going over.
The way comcast has it seutp is working JUST FINE. | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: At least they're straightforward Your service is capped already, and as I stated, just because people know the cap doesn't mean they'll increase their usage to fit. I don't think people will change their lifestyles. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: At least they're straightforward said by KrK:Your service is capped already, and as I stated, just because people know the cap doesn't mean they'll increase their usage to fit. I don't think people will change their lifestyles. My service is capped at at least 200GB or more. Show me any ISP that has 200GB caps on their users and post them on their site.. | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: At least they're straightforward Don't know of any that are capped, except Comcast. | |
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Knoxville, TN | said by furlonium:Give them that. They contacted dslr and told them. DON'T take a hint, Comcast! From the text, up there at the top... "A user", not the ISP, emailed DSLR. The ISP sent notification to their users.
Also, I agree with one of the replies above me, I much prefer an invisible multi hundred gig cap than a visible 40 gig cap. I'd hit that almost every month. (To be honest, I'm not sure how I avoid the invisi-cap with the way my roommate downloads anime, and I compulsively download every new game demo or beta release... but hey, I digress) | |
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kudos:4 | Making heavy users pay cost of upgrades good policy
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1 edit | Awesome! I can't believe people still want all the ISPs who have invisible caps to come out and make a clearly defined one. This is a superb example of what happens.
If Comcast for example comes out with a set cap, I guarantee you it will be significantly lower than the hundreds of gigabytes it is now as an "invisible" one. They will also then be able to charge you ridiculous overage prices like this company.
Then everybody will be crying about having caps that are too low!
Just ask all the members in countries that have ISPs with strict caps - I know there's quite a few in the U.K.
Do we really want bandwidth to become a commodity like cell phone minutes? | |
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Tulsa, OK | CAP is a bit low.... Especially for $60 a month.
200GB would be fairer. | |
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| | | Re: CAP is a bit low.... Hey, its Puerto Rico can't ask for much. Everything here is like that good at first and crap at the end. | |
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| Re: CAP is a bit low.... Last time I traveled to Bayamon, I noticed new house constructions by El Ocho and Bayamon Sur going for about $500k.
I'd call that disgusting considering that my parents sold their house in Bella Vista Gardens for a mere $90,000 just 14 years ago, where they now average about $240,000.
So with that kind of money going around there, I'd expect not only improved, faster web access, but a power and water utility that never goes out.
Wait... We're talking about AAA here.. You guys in Bayamon are lucky that mud doesn't make it past your faucet.
Never mind.
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Minneapolis, MN | Re: CAP is a bit low.... What I found even more incredible is that these new crappy constructions (have you seen some of these new developments?, they are horribly small houses!!)with outrageous prices are selling out before they are done with construction. Where is all the money coming from? Last time I checked, jobs in PR pay way below what you could get in the US mainland.
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| Re: CAP is a bit low.... I saw some construction in Bayamon South right in the borderline right after El Ocho, I think right by Barrio Abajo. Those were starting at 500k.
Where all the dough was coming from? I'll tell you where.
If there's one thing I know about my own people is that we love to spend money we don't have, and since Puertorican banks go by the same FICO scores and lending guidelines as US banks, you can imagine the mess it all turned into.
I'll wager there's as much foreclosure going on in the island right now as there is in the states. | |
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kudos:2 | said by KrK:Especially for $60 a month. 200GB would be fairer. Can you give us a breakdown of how you worked that out?
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| Re: CAP is a bit low.... Ahh okay. You're more closer to Carolina and Santurce. Where I used to live is deeper into Bayamon, next to Rexville, Cana and Vanscoy.
I went to Plaza Las Americas on my last trip too. That mall is amazing. Looks so much better than what I remember when growing up. At least they kept that big water fountain that shoots up almost to the ceiling.
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| | | Ahh thats awesome man yeah I know rexville my univeristy is there, Interamericana de bayamon =) Yeah the mall has changed A LOT during times now I think is the best one in terms of looks and all. Good to see someone that knows about the island hahaha
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| | Profiting off of copyright infringment? If an ISP charges extra for all usage above 40gb, aren't they charging you for other people's services/content, plus any illegal content?
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Mary Esther, FL | Re: Profiting off of copyright infringment? unlimited to an ISP means an "always on connection"
they need to re define unlimited.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | said by insomniac84:If an ISP charges extra for all usage above 40gb, aren't they charging you for other people's services/content, plus any illegal content? Seems like making money on illegal songs should be something the RIAA should be interested in. the RIAA would have to fully prove it was their stuff. and then sue the ISP in a court on the island which means flying liers(err Lawyers) out there from Cali.
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cloud 9 | It's there business, no problem . I am a huge bandwidth hog. My BT client runs 24/7. Having said that, I have no problem with this, as long as they are not advertising it as "Unlimited," and the prices are very upfront. I think that it only makes since to pay more if you use more. This is a big picture attitude, and I know that some people are stuck with very little provider choices, but competition will ultimately cause price per gb to continue to drop. Paying more to use more, I'm ok with. It's those company's that advertise "Unlimited," and then send you nasty letters, threaten you, or cut off your service for using too much. Those, I have a major issue with.
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| | Such a bad decision After advertising recently on TV...of unlimited access and upto 4 Mbps speed.....they decided to impose this cap...with the explanation that if u r only browsing net, sending mail and watching occassional video...u will be fine. They anyway....never included the bandwidth used by us in the invoices before
They left out.....what abt playing Xbox Live, watching subscribion based video content and VPN access with office. I m seriously evaluation the DSL solution in my area now. Onelink has taken this too far. | |
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cloud 9 | Re: Such a bad decision Great choice, don't go away mad just go away. There is no greater power to vote, that where you spend your dollar. This is exactly what I was talking about. The market will take care of itself, it always does. | |
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| stupidity I use a lot of broadband: 3 VoIP phones (with 3 teens), 2 XBox Live consoles (for the teens), 5 computers, Joost TV via internet, plus torrents. I know I use a lot and I pay the max that Comcast offers here in Sacramento (home networking for multiple IP addresses and the highest speed tier they have). It's around $80/month. Plus, I don't mind paying more because I understand I'm not a typical cable HSI user. Why can't they make a reasonable tier of higher speeds (particularly upload) and charge more? If I was a typical internet user (browsing, email) I'd just use my $14/month DSL line (768/384). If they keep throttling, limiting, capping, etc. We might as well go back to DSL Lite and save the money. | |
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i live in puerto rico... and am currently a onelink user... shit like this is typical in this god forsaken island... everything that is offered in puerto rico from food, to internet access, to any type of service turns to crap within 6 months of it entering the island... poor customer service and the attitude that the business is there as a favor to the people, businesses dont do customer service, so they dont do anything to keep people's business: dont like it? good luck finding someone with our product/service/etc.
no wonder most people leave the island looking for better opportunities and experiences in the USA; life in puerto rico es shit, always uphill, always someone making it impossible for you to enjoy life and the fruits of your labor.... constant taxes, crumbling infrastructure, corrupt politics and government run service sector... the list goes on and on...
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1 edit | CAP hurts PORN Toa Baja native here.
I have done my calculations on my own personal browsing habits.
I downloaded this program and started seeing where my MB goes on a daily basis.
»www.broadbandchoices.co.uk/broad···tor.html
On a weekly basis I'll be downloading anywhere from 500MB to 1.5GB from the xbox marketplace (demos, arcade and movies). It really all DEPENDS on how much stuff they release.
On a weekly basis I'll be downloading anywhere from 1.5GB to 2.5GB from the playstation store. (trailers, demos). It all really depends on how much stuff they release. Trailers tend to be the biggest culprit, since they are all 1080P clips.
On a DAILY basis, my average net download (youtube, digg, 4chan, reddit, slashdot, gamestop, gametrailers) is about 150MB to 300MB. If I go crazy on youtube and gametrailers , it can go up to 700MB , but thats like once a week.
So this is my weekly tally up till now, using the high values: 4GB(consoles) + 2.80GB (daily browsing) = 6.80GB.
That means I have only 3.2GB left for porn :-(
RAISE THE CAP TO 50GB!!!!!!! I need my boobies darnit >:-( | |
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