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 |  Mr FelFlynn LivesPremium
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Louisville, KY | Re: Eureka. Don't go off giving them ideas, they'll just go and define in terms of SUVs here. | |
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| | | And their new caps would be based on the max amount you could actually strap to a pigeon!! Though I bet they would go with the amount of 128MB sticks they could attach to the pigeon. | |
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|  dellsweigExtreme AerobaticsPremium,MVM
join:2003-12-10
Campbell Hall, NY
kudos:1 | As Time Warner likes to say in the road runner ads - "Beep Beep" | |
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| | | | Re: not that bad And the package loss would be horrible, the resend on a packet that takes 360,000ms/mile would suck.
Anyone else notice that a carrier pigeon network is similar to token ring. | |
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 tenpin784I Went To The Dark Side?
join:2001-03-30
New Durham, NH | that is awesome!
Quite an amusing story. | |
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| | Most connections would have a hard time beating that pigeon With my uverse 12 meg pipe I would be sitting right about the same time as the pigeon...assuming I was getting around a meg/sec. Nonetheless, if you only did 4% of that, that is pretty bad by any 'broadband' standards. | |
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|  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | Re: Online gaming via pigeon....LOL said by Logan 5:Reminds me of the old "play by turn" mail in games of the early 90's.... I hope you mean the 1890's, since its been going on a lot longer than 20 years! My grandfather used to play chess via mail, right up until his death last year (see note below my avatar). I remember it would take him a few months to play each game, and he was totally fine with it.
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Bethlehem, PA | Re: Online gaming via pigeon....LOL said by wifi4milez:said by Logan 5:Reminds me of the old "play by turn" mail in games of the early 90's.... I hope you mean the 1890's, since its been going on a lot longer than 20 years! My grandfather used to play chess via mail, right up until his death last year (see note below my avatar). I remember it would take him a few months to play each game, and he was totally fine with it. That's awesome. What would the letter say? "Hey Bob, how are things? blah blah blah..." or simply "1.e4"? 
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New York, NY | Re: Online gaming via pigeon....LOL said by furlonium:said by wifi4milez:said by Logan 5:Reminds me of the old "play by turn" mail in games of the early 90's.... I hope you mean the 1890's, since its been going on a lot longer than 20 years! My grandfather used to play chess via mail, right up until his death last year (see note below my avatar). I remember it would take him a few months to play each game, and he was totally fine with it. That's awesome. What would the letter say? "Hey Bob, how are things? blah blah blah..." or simply "1.e4"? If I recall there was a little (friendly) 'trash talking' with each move. Overall it was pretty humorous!
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| | | said by Logan 5:I cant believe tho in all seriousness that the ISP in question isn't taking any responsibility for this... Are there no laws in South Africa to regulate these types of things? Yes, there are numerous government regulations. These are the full explanation for the abysmal service. | |
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| OmagicQPosting in a thread near you
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | south africa and internet South Africa=third world
Why are we assuming they will have internet better than DSL with fractional T1 speeds for $120/mo? What else can you expect with a national telco monopoly located in a banana republic with extreme wealth inequality, urban decay, rolling blackouts, and large rural/1 story housing areas, and 70% of population has electricity (USA=%99.999?) and 50% has flush toilets? Next we will be hearing that SA National Telco is blocking VOIP, with govt permission. | |
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| | | Re: south africa and internet South Africa was less third world a couple of decades ago. Now it is reaching parity with the rest of Africa. Following the path of Zimbabwe. | |
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Banana republic? I didn't know racism was allowed on this forum.
Haven't had rolling blackouts in SA for more than a year but more importantly, it's quite ironic that you use that to identify a third world country, when rolling blackouts are not uncommon in 1st world countries either. California have had several rolling blackouts during the last decade. 2000 and 2005 in particular. BBC headline news last week - 1st world UK will have rolling blackouts in the years to come since they can't keep up with elec demand either.
As for broadband:
Telkom used to be the monopoly, but South Africa actually has a second national telco as well, Neotel, and all the major cellular providers are building their own national fiber networks.
For decades the only undersea cable linking South Africa with the rest of the world was the Telkom owned SAT3 cable, providing little intl bandwidth.
However, this year SEACOM launched the second undersea cable (1.28Tbps) and there's a further 5 undersea cables being built:
GLO-1, West Africa, 640Gbps, ready for operations, 2009
TEAMS, East and Southern Africa, 120Gbps – Due September 2009
EASSy East and Southern Africa, 1Tbps – Due June 2010
MainOne, West Africa, 1.92Tbps, due 2010
WACS, West and Southern Africa, 3.8Tbps, Due 2011
This drastic increase in international bandwidth capacity will obviously drive down the prices quite dramatically withing the next year or two. South Africa may be considered third world compared to the USA but they're miles ahead the rest of Africa. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: south africa and internet said by GlobeSA:As for broadband: Telkom used to be the monopoly, but South Africa actually has a second national telco as well, Neotel, and all the major cellular providers are building their own national fiber networks. Neotel is a cellphone provider for residential purposes, FAIL!
Where is local loop unbundling? where is FTTH or rural copper? Except for its cellphone division, Neotel is as much a competitor to the ILEC as Level 3 is a competitor to Verizon or ATT in the US, except for its cellphone service Neotel won't do anything about Telkom's prices or be a real competitor.
»www.neotel.co.za/neotel/view/neo···age84327 Makes Verizon's 5GB cap look generous.
It owns submarine cable capacity which is good. If I wanted to really create a useless ILEC competitor, I wouldn't give them the power legislatively to internationally connect out of SA forcing them to get access internationally through Telkom, at "free market" principles (extortion prices). | |
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| | ricep5Premium
join:2000-08-07
Jacksonville, FL | Agreed, SA is definitely not third world.
Social issues aside for a moment, they are the most modern and produce the highest GDP of any African nation. While they do contain a significant set of mineral assets which contributes to their trade of balance, they currently suffer from waste and graft in the govt. sector of which they are still trying to overcome.
Social issues inserted. Telkom, while a near monopoly suffers from some regulatory issues not to dissimilar from its power generation cousin Eskom. Several government mandates to provide unpaid services in certain areas produces a capital constraint as they can't raise rates to cover the cost of provision. Vodacom & MTN suffer no such constraints on wireless services and can fund long term infrastructure like fiber.
Personally I used Telkom DSL in the Cape and it performed quite well (2Mbps). This story, while amusing could happen in any country, 1st world or otherwise. A bad DSLAM port, water leaking onto a terminal, signal loss at the residence all could impact the quality. Telkom unresponsive? Hah! How many posts in this site describe unresponsive carriers?!! Enough said. | |
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| | Question? What happens if along its route the pigeon was DPI'ed? | |
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| | Someone might sniff my pigeon/packet! :) That bird needs a bath!
Someone might hack my pigeon/data. | |
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Winfield, BC | Re: Someone might sniff my pigeon/packet! :) what happens if the cat eats the pigeon? | |
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join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | was there any doubt...? call me a cynic, but did anyone doubt that this wouldn't work?
my wife's grandfather raised pigeons for racing. he was very into the sport and won several awards for having the "fastest bird". given the speed of flight, if you could put a big enough card on the pigeon in a way that it would not be lost in flight, of course you're going to win.
had they not won, would you see them strapping an 8gig or 16gig flash drive to the pigeon just to get a victory?
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|  heat84Bit Torrent Apologist
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Fort Lauderdale, FL | Re: 100+mbit said by neufuse:heck put a 64GB+ flash drive on there and now you have outragious speeds hehe Newegg has 128GB sticks. | |
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 Seph83Gone InsanePremium
join:2004-04-29
Blairsville, GA | Hmm... Did a math on this one...
According to the "we noted how" link, they pay just a little less than $6,000 a month for their connection... A rough guesstimate of the transfer speed of said connection was 40 - 50 KB/s, which is about 320 - 400 kbps...
I cannot fathom how an ISP can charge that insane amount for such a slow connection, unless they charge several hundred dollars a month for dial-up.
Hmm... If that's the case, then all of us in the 2nd world have it made. Even BT, for you blokes, and Telstra, for you Aussies, out there, sounds awesome in comparison! Ma Bell, FTW!!
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join:2000-01-05
Quincy, MA
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| For the Birds.... OMG, that's hilarious! Especially the picture of the bird w/ his little "backpack" on!
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | You know its coming Ok so what IS the air speed of a SD card laden Pigeon? | |
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Cedar Rapids, IA | Re: You know its coming said by elios:Ok so what IS the air speed of a SD card laden Pigeon? What do you mean? An African, or a European Pigeon? (I guess in this case, we can probably assume African! ) | |
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Bossier City, LA | Re: You know its coming said by tlniec:said by elios:Ok so what IS the air speed of a SD card laden Pigeon? What do you mean? An African, or a European Pigeon? (I guess in this case, we can probably assume African! ) lol
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| | DoS If you close the windows is it considered a denial of service attack?
also if you load the mem stick with MP3's then will RIAA be forced to screen every pigeon midflight? | |
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|  R4M0NBrazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA
1 edit | Re: DoS said by tempnexus:If you close the windows is it considered a denial of service attack? No... Just a misconfigured firewall. A DoS would be getting 1000 pigeons to go through the window at the same time. | |
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join:2006-06-14
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| Pigeons If you remember the GTA 3 game. There is a radio station called chatterbox with Lazlow. There was a person that called in. I personally think he found one of these carrier pigeons. Listen to the first minute.
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| | dsl will eventually win you really cant expect a pigeon going from one conttinent to the other like africa to the north america.
but go pigeon, fly high and free just send the packets to meee.
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 shortcktWatchen Das Blinken LightsPremium
join:2000-12-05
Tenant Hell | A silly comparison This is not even apples and oranges. What, are birds now going to replace high speed internet?
Their internet service is slow, and it seems their computer is too...
The firm said Winston took one hour and eight minutes to fly between the offices, and the data took another hour to upload on to their system. Must be a USB 1.0 port they plugged that memory stick into. | |
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) in a place like the US... imagine if AT&T tried that... Oh wait... they already have with the iPhone & MMS/Tethering... 
Wireless is for the birds :)
