Cattle Ranchers Really Love AT&T T-Mobile! As AT&T's Hired Chorus Continues to Sing For about a decade I've written about how large companies like AT&T, Verizon and Comcast not only use fake consumer groups and "fauxcademic" think tanks to push their agendas, but they also throw funds at real minority, disability, or other groups with the understanding those groups will also parrot AT&T political positions when needed. With the AT&T/T-Mobile merger, AT&T has done a better job illustrating how they use these groups to create an artificial "sound wall" of support than than any writer or consumer advocate ever could. AT&T brought out the big guns for the T-Mobile deal, buying support from Hispanic groups and now the U.S. Cattlemens Association, who falsely claim the deal is good for rural coverage: The expansion of next-generation wireless broadband envisioned by the T-Mobile and AT&T merger, for example, is critical for the next stage of rural Americas evolution and success. It will allow ranchers, farmers, and all rural residents who have been traditionally underserved to finally gain access to the best that mobile broadband has to offer, including faster and more reliable connections. We strongly encourage the Federal Communications Commission to support these developments as an investment in both the current and future generations of agricultural producers and small communities across rural America. Except not. You'd be hard-pressed to find any real data that suggests AT&T's acquisition of T-Mobile is good for anybody but AT&T -- and the deal is facing fierce opposition by every legitimate consumer group in the country. We've also noted, repeatedly, how the T-Mobile deal really will have little to no serious impact on AT&T's belated LTE deployment plans. Meanwhile, anyone believing that the elimination of one of four wireless competitors will result in lower prices may want to be wary of bridge and swampland salsemen. So why is there a constant stream of organizations claiming otherwise? Because AT&T is paying them to, and there are clearly no limit of organizations that have no problem selling out both their organization's name -- and their constituents -- to keep AT&T donations flowing. The quality of AT&T's argument is made fairly apparent by the fact the only people who believe what AT&T is saying -- are people paid by AT&T to believe what they're saying.
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 | | this deal needs to be stopped i have signed petitions and written to my reps here in maine.this deal must not happen. but in the end it probably will as our government has been bought by these asshole corporations | |
|  |  | | Re: this deal needs to be stopped Correct - Corporations and the US government are one in the same anymore, especially At&t. What really makes me mad though, is how At&t will cut all the US support jobs when it finally has control over T-Mobile...something like 4 tech centers, and many customer service centers will be closed, creating even more unemployment in your area.
T-mobile lost over 900k subscribers recently, and gained somewhere around 5k in the same time period.....I wonder if that's because T-Mobile customers were trying to get away from At&T?
At the end of the day, there will be thousands of T-Mobile employee's out of a job, but they can always work for the "Convergsys/third-party outsourced" contract jobs that will be created by At&t for the overflow of support calls. At&t played this card in Albuquerque, where it had about 800 people doing support under a third party...and then cut all the positions half way through the 2y contract. I wonder if the city of Albuquerque hit At&t with an Early Termination Fee for breaking the contract? The City/State probably ate the costs associated with trying to land more jobs in the city, which involves tax breaks, deferred payments of XYZ, etc.
To me, it's just another straw on the backs of American workers. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: this deal needs to be stopped Many people leave for coverage issues, I know I did. I took three lines and have several friends that also did. T-Mobiles "4G" is in select areas, while others stay on 2G. I moved to ATT and get much better speeds and "4G" along with 3G all over. | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: this deal needs to be stopped I have had At&t in the past and I will never have them again. Mainly I didn't like having to check my bill every single month for services I never ordered... In addition, att's phone service/coverage was average at best, but yet they charge more than comparable carriers. Finally att's customer service was terrible... Can you say 3 hour hold times, and with repeated billing issues I was calling those A-holes every other month!!!
Now days I have T-mobile who I have loved. Honestly, att does have better coverage, barely. However the customer service more than makes up for it. I have only had to call the support line once. The one time, I was on hold at 6pm, (busy time,) for less than 5 minutes with the option for a call back. I have never had surprise services appear on my bill nor any other problems with T-mobile.
I am currently not under contract, so once this merger goes threw I am gone. FU AT&T!!!
Maybe I'll give sprint or cricket a try... Either way I will never go back to ATT!!!!!!!! | |
|  |  |  |  | | I bet you have an iPhone and you try to justify it by saying you have better service with at&t. In some areas maybe, but how about a major city like boston??? at&t coverage is terrible... NY, at&t coverage is even worse. Not to say t-mobile doesn't have their own coverage problems, but if you can't cover the city, why would you cover more "rural" areas? | |
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 | | Possible So its not possible for an actual, non-paid consumer to like a companys service, even though the company is generally unpopular? | |
|  |  RJ44 join:2001-10-19 Nashville, TN | Re: Possible said by cheery :So its not possible for an actual, non-paid consumer to like a companys service, even though the company is generally unpopular? Not in the DSLR editorial world, it isn't. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Possible Not in the DSLR editorial world, it isn't. Yeah, because in the "real world," consumers everywhere are just thrilled with the idea of an AT&T/T-Mobile merger.  | |
|  |  |  |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | Re: Possible said by David77 :Not in the DSLR editorial world, it isn't. Yeah, because in the "real world," consumers everywhere are just thrilled with the idea of an AT&T/T-Mobile merger. Most consumers don't care and few are probably aware the merger is even under evaluation by regulators. The 1st time most of the T-Mobile customers will know about a merger will be when they get an insert in their bill telling them they are now part of the AT&T family. -- Record your speedtest.net results in DSLReports SpeedWave »www.speedtest.net/wave/afe201cb84d45c88 | |
|  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Possible And the fact that most people are stupid and uninformed means what exactly? Those who are informed know this deal does little to nothing to benefit the consumer, and likely results in consumer harm. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | Re: Possible said by David77 :And the fact that most people are stupid and uninformed means what exactly? It means the costs involved don't rise high enough because of the merger for most consumers to care about it. And that means the companies involved and the regulators don't care either.
said by David77 :Those who are informed know this deal does little to nothing to benefit the consumer, and likely results in consumer harm. The companies don't care about you except to squelch the noise you and others like you make about the merger. -- Record your speedtest.net results in DSLReports SpeedWave »www.speedtest.net/wave/afe201cb84d45c88 | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Possible It means the costs involved don't rise high enough because of the merger for most consumers to care about it. That's completely made up nonsense, and it doesn't even make sense. The majority of Americans don't care about this stuff because they tend to be stupid and distracted, not because the impact will be minimal. Eliminating a major competitor from the marketplace and further entrenching a duopoly that will dominate both the retail and special access markets will have significant long-term impacts.The companies don't care about you except to squelch the noise you and others like you make about the merger. This part is true, however. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | said by Romney2012:said by David77 :Not in the DSLR editorial world, it isn't. Yeah, because in the "real world," consumers everywhere are just thrilled with the idea of an AT&T/T-Mobile merger. Most consumers don't care and few are probably aware the merger is even under evaluation by regulators. The 1st time most of the T-Mobile customers will know about a merger will be when they get an insert in their bill telling them they are now part of the AT&T family. Whether people are or are not aware is not clear, but when you ask them what they think of T-Mobile and AT&T merging they express extreme dissatisfaction. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  RJ44 join:2001-10-19 Nashville, TN | Re: Possible said by sonicmerlin:Whether people are or are not aware is not clear, but when you ask them what they think of T-Mobile and AT&T merging they express extreme dissatisfaction. Are you referring to the people on DSLR, or do you have some actual statistics to back this statement up? Who are "them" and "they"? What is extreme dissatisfaction? Etc... | |
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| said by Romney2012:said by David77 :Not in the DSLR editorial world, it isn't. Yeah, because in the "real world," consumers everywhere are just thrilled with the idea of an AT&T/T-Mobile merger. Most consumers don't care and few are probably aware the merger is even under evaluation by regulators. The 1st time most of the T-Mobile customers will know about a merger will be when they get an insert in their bill telling them they are now part of the AT&T family. With all due respect Ecomcon, in every store I've been in (technology related) people have been discussing the merger since it began, so that is very much bullshit.
I've been in several discussions myself, in Best Buy, Radio Shack, Walmart, Target... | |
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 |  elios join:2005-11-15 Springfield, MO | said by cheery :So its not possible for an actual, non-paid consumer to like a companys service, even though the company is generally unpopular? Possible but unlikely as the reasons stated are out and out lies if they had just said they like AT&T that would be one thing
AT&T's rural coverage is a joke btw and Tmobiles is even worse so how it will make it better out right lie | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Possible So say you... I am sitting in a very rural location in the middle of crop dusters and rice fields with no alternative other than a local mom and pop wireless provider with 1Mbps service and I get 3-4Mbps with my AT&T aircard. | |
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 |  | | So its not possible for an actual, non-paid consumer to like a companys service, even though the company is generally unpopular? Nowhere does the article say you're not allowed to like a company with the lowest customer satisfaction rating in the entire industry. That's certainly your right. But we're talking about the T-Mobile merger and the claims that it will improve/expand service and lower prices, which is nonsense. You're also allowed to believe in tooth fairies and hobgoblins if that's your cup of tea. | |
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 fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium join:2005-07-01 Atlanta, GA | seriously? Is anyone actually fooled by this bullsh*t? Does anyone actually believe that these groups write this crap all by themselves, that it isn't written by AT&T's propaganda department?
Kill the deal! | |
|  |  1 edit | Re: seriously? said by fuziwuzi:Is anyone actually fooled by this bullsh*t? Does anyone actually believe that these groups write this crap all by themselves, that it isn't written by AT&T's propaganda department?
Kill the deal! Of course no one is fooled, but that isn't how it works.
First, AT&T announces it is buying T-Mobile. Naturally, they know they have to get the deal approved, and they know there's going to be resistance to it, so they lobby regulators and politicians with campaign contributions and the strong hint that they'll be offered jobs once they leave the public sector. But these public officials need cover to give even the slightest appearance that they're acting in the "public interest". And that's where these fake endorsements come in. They make it look like there are real people actually supporting this deal, which allows the politicians to claim that they're doing what's best for the country, even though they're doing it simply to line their own pockets.
I guess I was a little too broad when I said no one is fooled. Let's just say that no one who's paying attention is fooled. For the rest, AT&T doesn't have to convince them that this deal is good for them; they only have to make them think that not everyone is against it. Since the poor sheep really don't want to have to think about it anyway, they'll just throw up their hands and say, "fine, buy T-Mobile, I don't really care," and then go back to watching Jerry Springer. And, unfortunately, many of these sheep actually vote.
EDIT: Oh, there's one more function these bought and paid for groups serve. There will likely be hearings on this buyout, and groups will be invited to testify at them. Now, considering that the politicians have been wined, dined, and lobbied, and considering that the politicians can choose who to invite to testify, who do you think will get the invitations? Yep, expect to see people from every group who is being paid off to support this deal to show up. And expect those who oppose it to be left outside, where they'll hold a press conference that the reporters will rush by as they're headed to their cars. | |
|  |  MrHappy316Wish I had my tankPremium join:2003-01-02 Summerville, SC | I wonder if I can create my own BS group and see if I can get ATT to throw some propaganda money at me. Maybe the Rural Folks Who Don't Like Big Cities Association. | |
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 IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC kudos:1 | Of course there will be a T-Mobile iPhone... When you can get it from AT&T.... Sigh... | |
|  | | lol my relatives are cattle ranchers in central Utah. All have verizon as there is horrible or non existant ATT coverage. what a joke ATT is. But they know how to lobby FTW | |
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 MrHappy316Wish I had my tankPremium join:2003-01-02 Summerville, SC | T-Mobile cover rural, i thought that was the old Alltel If i remember correctly wasn't it said that the old Alltel covered more livestock than any other cellular company? T Mobile is mostly on 1900 and stays in urban areas and along major highways. | |
|  | | Just keep drinking the kool-aid Go on and keep drinking the kool-aid, you f*cking morons. The government broke up Ma Bell for a reason. Now they seem to be do everything they can to put them back together. | |
|  | | Mooo? Or Noooo? So when asked, the Cattle mooed. How can a moo be construed as a yes? It sounds more like nooooo.
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|  | | how? How is this any worse then Tech blogs with multiple sites under different names spewing the same corporate hating message?
People and companies will be people and companies.
Get over it. | |
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| The deal is out of consumers' hands Writing your congressman and bitching on tech sites will change nothing. It's all about the money. While some politicians are stupid enough to tweet pictures of their junk to random women, they know very well not to bite the hand that feeds them.
AT&T is one of the largest political donors for both parties. We also happen to be one year away from an election. | |
|  | | the average attention span is 7 seconds.... The king of corporations is ruling the world now and wants it all. As the American consumer, asleep at the wheel, is clueless as to the power of manipulation this company has. They fall for any gimmick these theive's ex toll. As shareholder we look the other way and even support their Borg like consumption. In the sixties we knew never to trust the Government. It was all lies. Now the Government run by Corporations is the true Evil today. Welcome to the machine....fools. | |
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