ozzny Premium Member join:2005-04-22 Bronx, NY |
ozzny
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2011-Sep-23 4:36 pm
Where's VZW when you need em.AT&T and T-Mobile only. Are you serious???
Verizon...where are you? | |
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Subaru
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2011-Sep-23 6:01 pm
Re: Where's VZW when you need em.said by ozzny:AT&T and T-Mobile only. Are you serious???
Verizon...where are you? What I was thinking as well. | |
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2011-Sep-23 8:37 pm
Re: Where's VZW when you need em.said by Subaru:said by ozzny:AT&T and T-Mobile only. Are you serious???
Verizon...where are you? What I was thinking as well. There is a very simple reason why AT&T and T-Mobile. They are both GSM and use the same Frequencies and Transmission format which is not compatible with Verizon's CDMA. To be able to support Verizon a second set of radio equipment would be needed on the subways. Now if you asked why the choice was made to go AT&T/T-Mobile in lieu of Verizon that would be a different/better question. So long as the test setup is only going to support GSM or CDMA then one or the other Cellco will be unsupported so long as you do not go with a dual radio setup. Note that I think the cell support in the under the Hudson Car Tunnels DO support both networks/standards. | |
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Re: Where's VZW when you need em.It's not really in lieu of, they just are still in negotiations with Sprint and Verizon. I guess they didn't want to delay the announcement. I mean its not really that big of a deal if it takes Verizon and Sprint another few weeks or months to settle on an agreement, the hard part (and why they wont be finished till 2016) is installing the physical hardware and wiring in the subway. The rest is just switch flipping. | |
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OTOH, the Hudson river Amtrak/NJT tunnels are Verizon-only (contract Sprint probably roams), so now if you want underground coverage, you've got to decide. I wish they would just let things be, and if you're underground, you get no service. | |
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said by ozzny:Verizon...where are you? The check to the MTA hasn't cleared yet. | |
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Verizon already tried this with NY stations. I forget the scope if it was just the Regional rail lines coming through or if the subway was included. In any event I seem to remember the whole thing being a waste of time and money. Equipment failures are high in that environment and no Income generated from providing this service. It's one of those things everyone seems to think would be great to have but really doesn't benefit the carriers other than bragging rights. | |
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BiggA
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2011-Sep-26 6:40 pm
Re: Where's VZW when you need em.People might switch if one carrier has it and one doesn't. | |
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IowaCowboyLost in the Supermarket Premium Member join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA |
Boston subway has some coverageBoston subway has some coverage underground. Probably because their system is not as deep underground as NYC. I once used my iPhone on the Green Line and was able to get some signal and this was the underground portion. The stations in Boston have some reception. | |
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Re: Boston subway has some coverageActually the coverage underground is quite extensive. Tmobile covers almost all of the underground stations and has for many years as Voicestream which Tmobile purchased installed the cell sites. ATT coverage is great in some stations and non existent in others. I take the Orange line often and that line has ATT coverage in both the tunnels and stations underground. Sprint I am unsure of except in major stations. Verizon works in major stations and some tunnels. Green line has more wholes in the underground coverage network. | |
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gapsare the signal gaps really at the stations? I would think it's in the tunnels between stations to be exact.. if you can't get a signal by the exit turnstyles then your cellphone/service provider sucks. | |
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mix
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2011-Sep-23 5:33 pm
Why so long and so muchDon't they just basically need a big or bunch of femtocells to pull this off in a station? | |
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ArrayListDevOps Premium Member join:2005-03-19 Mullica Hill, NJ |
How long...How long before the government shuts down these cell sites to stop free speech? | |
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Re: How long...said by ArrayList:How long before the government shuts down these cell sites to stop free speech? That was San Fransisco not New York. If that happened the NYC the mayor along with the whole city council would be forced to resign. Otherwise the riots in the city would make the march on Washington look like a block party. | |
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Not soon enough. Soon there won't be anyplace left to be free from these jabbering idiots who think they are so important that everyone needs to hear about their droll lives. | |
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Tokidoki Premium Member join:2002-08-26 South Richmond Hill, NY |
Tokidoki
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2011-Sep-24 3:47 am
IdlersI hate the people that clog up the entrances to the subway talking on a cellphone... I wonder if this'll clear things up eventually. The morning sucks and I've missed trains by mere seconds because of it What luck | |
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Re: IdlersI'm more interested in when the hell we're going to see free 802.11n wifi at the stations. | |
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djdanskaRudie32 Premium Member join:2001-04-21 San Diego, CA |
djdanska
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2011-Sep-24 1:46 pm
better than chiTownHopefully it's better than the subway service in chicago. I get voice fine at the stations, but in the tunnels, it varies. Not able to make calls and data/text messages never work. (I use t-mobile, and it's only 2g in the subway) | |
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borvOnemhz On Aim join:2000-10-06 Astoria, NY |
borv
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2011-Sep-24 2:49 pm
useless for a lot of folksMost folks in NYC are on Verizon. AT&T is horrendous in Manhattan, not sure about T-Mobile. | |
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GSM or UMTS?What technology did they employ? GSM or UMTS, or both?
Only GSM would be compatible between AT&T and T-Mobile. Most T-Mobile USA phones don't support AT&T's UMTS frequencies at all; and same for AT&T phones and T-Mo 3G freq. | |
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Re: GSM or UMTS?Both. It doesn't matter, it's configured for both pre-merger state.
Remember the merger isn't even approved.
And in GSM/UMTS systems the systems are COMBINED into one, the back-end automates it. | |
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Re: GSM or UMTS?Are you sure they support both AWS and non-AWS UMTS frequencies?
Also, I don't get how your comment the about the merger is relevant here. Tower sharing is quite a common practice amongst all operators. | |
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PolakPola Premium Member join:2001-12-17 Thornwood, NY |
PolakPola
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2011-Sep-26 10:31 pm
ROFL :DWhen are they planing to wire all tunnels and stations 2050?:) | |
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