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Charter Announces DOCSIS 3.0 Launch This year
Which markets will get it hasn't been announced
by KathrynV 06:11PM Wednesday Aug 06 2008
Earlier this year Charter Communications announced plans to start testing DOCSIS 3.0 technology at the end of this year with plans for 2009 deployment. Charter has now announced that the company plans to launch DOCSIS 3.0 before the end of this year.
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"Charter is also moving ahead with a bandwidth management plan that will involve both switched digital video (SDV) and analog reclamation to make room for high-definition television (HDTV) and Docsis 3.0 services."
The announcement comes right on the heels of a similar announcement by Cablevision. Like with the Cablevision announcement, the news from Charter doesn’t specify which markets can expect to see the service first.

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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Easy to see where they'll deploy....

Anywhere FIOS or UVerse is.
TheKnossos

join:2003-05-14
Argyle, TX

Re: Easy to see where they'll deploy....

said by KrK:

Anywhere FIOS or UVerse is.
So... Fort Worth hopefully?

Although Charter offers 16mb here, I've stuck with 6mb DSL because Charter's reliability is laughable. Maybe DOCSIS3 will improve it...

Ben
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Glen Carbon, IL

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FIOS I can see that.

U-Verse? U-Verse is a joke. Charter's current offerings beat U-Verse.

The only exception I might see to that is the extremely limited U-Verse FTTP deployments, but since AT&T has deliberately chosen not to even take advantage of their FTTP deployments I don't see that as a threat. Only 6/1 on FTTP? It's ridiculous, but it's that AT&T is doing.

It's also why I won't buy anything from AT&T, except landline of course.

KrK
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Re: Easy to see where they'll deploy....

Yeah, but why let them maybe steal subs when you can clobber them... nip them in the bud, so to speak.

I'm betting you'll see this only in areas where the cometition is either 1) Deploying advanced services or 2) Threatening to deploy said services.

Everywhere else will have to wait... a long, LONG time.

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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)

shortyd999

join:2008-10-21
Birmingham, AL

Re: Easy to see where they'll deploy....

I guess that means it wont come to Birmingham for years

KrK
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Re: Easy to see where they'll deploy....

said by shortyd999:

I guess that means it wont come to Birmingham for years
Probably not... although AT&T is being aggressive with U-Verse.... so that may come and prompt them. However, at&t is already increasing prices... /sigh
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powerspec88
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said by Ben:

FIOS I can see that.

U-Verse? U-Verse is a joke. Charter's current offerings beat U-Verse.

The only exception I might see to that is the extremely limited U-Verse FTTP deployments, but since AT&T has deliberately chosen not to even take advantage of their FTTP deployments I don't see that as a threat. Only 6/1 on FTTP? It's ridiculous, but it's that AT&T is doing.

It's also why I won't buy anything from AT&T, except landline of course.
Just a FYI, you can get 10/1.5 with AT&T now. I don't know what its like where you are, but U-Verse beats everything that Charter has in my area. The best speed we can get here is 5Mbps and that is if your lucky...

Ben
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Glen Carbon, IL

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Re: Easy to see where they'll deploy....

said by powerspec88:

Just a FYI, you can get 10/1.5 with AT&T now. I don't know what its like where you are, but U-Verse beats everything that Charter has in my area. The best speed we can get here is 5Mbps and that is if your lucky...
I looked up Raymore, it appears to be a suburb to Kansas City. Where I live is a suburb to St. Louis.

So Charter doesn't deliver the speed they advertise over there? That's too bad. I've always gotten the speed advertised, and even a little more.

Granted, I was (and still am) on a very low speed business tier. I just put in an order for a 10/1 business tier. Hopefully I'll actually get 10/1, especially since business service is more expensive. At least with it I get static IP and CSRs that actually know something. For the price I'm paying I deserve at least 95% of the Kbps I'm supposed to get.

I'd consider U-Verse business, except:

- AT&T has done stuff I don't like.
- You currently can't get Static IP even with U-Verse Business.
- U-Verse isn't even available exactly where I live.

I was also talking about TV offerings. I could be wrong but I think that with Charter or with DirecTV you can get more HD channels.

dvd536
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said by KrK:

Anywhere FIOS or UVerse is.
Naturally. the haves always get the cream while the havenots get the sludge.
I doubt uverse areas will be included as charter already offers what the top uverse tier is[10mbit]
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kommander

join:2003-11-03
Yakima, WA
I live and work in Yakima (some where in the middle of Washington state) with no fios, or u-verse. We are probably going to have the docsis 3.0 proably in the 1st half of next year.

KrK
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Re: Easy to see where they'll deploy....

Sounds good... Let us know when you actually get it.
sancraig

join:2003-11-05
Saint Louis, MO

Hopefully

Here in St louis they'll deploy becuase of their corp. headquaters. crosses fingers

Ben
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Glen Carbon, IL

Re: Hopefully

said by sancraig:

Here in St louis they'll deploy becuase of their corp. headquaters. crosses fingers
I hope so too (I live across the river on the IL side).

I wouldn't count on it, since there's only U-Verse here (no FIOS), and not in all of the STL metro area. That and the best U-Verse offers is still slower than the best Charter offers.

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Re: Hopefully

said by Ben:

That and the best U-Verse offers is still slower than the best Charter offers.
i don't believe that's correct. u-verse offers 10/1.5. charter offers 10/1.

Ben
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Glen Carbon, IL

Re: Hopefully

said by morbo:

said by Ben:

That and the best U-Verse offers is still slower than the best Charter offers.
i don't believe that's correct. u-verse offers 10/1.5. charter offers 10/1.
No, Charter has 16/2. Their tiers are 16/2, 10/1, and 5/512Kb.

morbo
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Re: Hopefully

said by Ben:

said by morbo:

said by Ben:

That and the best U-Verse offers is still slower than the best Charter offers.
i don't believe that's correct. u-verse offers 10/1.5. charter offers 10/1.
No, Charter has 16/2. Their tiers are 16/2, 10/1, and 5/512Kb.
my mistake.
JPGrimmace

join:2003-09-16
Pontiac, MI

Value

I hope this is a trend of good things to come. Anything to improve the value of that company and get my stock back up from being worthless would be great.

While we're on Charter, why are they getting grilled about using that NebuAd system (which I believe is criminal), but WOW! hasn't even been mentioned by congress? Am I missing something?

dvd536
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Re: Value

said by JPGrimmace:

While we're on Charter, why are they getting grilled about using that NebuAd system (which I believe is criminal), but WOW! hasn't even been mentioned by congress? Am I missing something?
Charter has deeper pockets is why.
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88615298
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West Tenness

Re: Value

said by dvd536:

said by JPGrimmace:

While we're on Charter, why are they getting grilled about using that NebuAd system (which I believe is criminal), but WOW! hasn't even been mentioned by congress? Am I missing something?
Charter has deeper pockets is why.
How does a company $19 BILLION in debt who lost $276 million in the last quarter have deep pockets?

Rob
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Re: Value

said by 88615298:

said by dvd536:

said by JPGrimmace:

While we're on Charter, why are they getting grilled about using that NebuAd system (which I believe is criminal), but WOW! hasn't even been mentioned by congress? Am I missing something?
Charter has deeper pockets is why.
How does a company $19 BILLION in debt who lost $276 million in the last quarter have deep pockets?
The same way a company like K-mart can file Chapt 7, then turn around and buy Sears

88615298
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West Tenness

No cap talk for Charter

not hat they have said much anyways, but if they are indeed moving to Docsis 3 and are getting rid of analog and using SDV then they better not start talking about caps, because all these things free up bandwidth and capacity.
hottboiinnc
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Cleveland, OH

Re: No cap talk for Charter

And if they decide to set caps what do you plan on doing? Leave them? They'll most likely be happy. Especially if you're one of those people that they have that uses a few TB a month on a residential connection.

Charter built their network or bought it using their own money; they keep it up with their own money- nothing was given to them by the gov't. So what they do to their network is their right not your's to say that they can't because it frees up space on the nodes and it is the rights of you and everyone else to have uncapped Internet. If you don't like the caps don't use those providers or build out your own company. I'm sure you could pick up a few years from Charter or another small provider.

88615298
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Re: No cap talk for Charter

said by hottboiinnc:

And if they decide to set caps what do you plan on doing? Leave them?
I also have at&t DSL in my area so yes I can in fact leave.

They'll most likely be happy. Especially if you're one of those people that they have that uses a few TB a month on a residential connection.
I use at most 50 GB a month. Sure they'll be happy if I leave? from I read they need every customer they can get.

Charter built their network or bought it using their own money; they keep it up with their own money- nothing was given to them by the gov't. So what they do to their network is their right not your's to say that they can't because it frees up space on the nodes and it is the rights of you and everyone else to have uncapped Internet. If you don't like the caps don't use those providers or build out your own company. I'm sure you could pick up a few years from Charter or another small provider.
WTF is your deal? First of all if you would actualy READ I've always been for REASONABLE caps. My point is( IF you had any idea what CONTEXT is ) is that they CAN NOT say the reason for caps is capacity because they would be an out and out lie once they instituted all digital SDV and Docsis 3.0. Dumping analog and using SDV by itself will allow them to have as many HD channels as DirectTv. Docsis 3.0 should allow then to give everyone 16 Mbps without caps.
hottboiinnc
ME

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Cleveland, OH

Re: No cap talk for Charter

who says they need every customer they can get/ Karl? HA! He only reports what he believes.

what would you do if at$t does the same thing? complain about them too?

They don't need a reason to give you caps. and doing 50gigs a month is reasonable i'll give you that but if they give you a cap that's their choice.

and its DirecTV not directtv there is only ONE T in their name.

But i stand by my post- if nobody likes their providers cap drop your usage or find another provider or deal with a raised price. DSL won't be uncapped for long once they find that cable companies are doing it. I doubt ATT and VZ want the bandwidth hogs on their network. (not saying you are though)
El Gaupo
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Buckhorn, NM

Which way is it

Sears bought Kmart
hottboiinnc
ME

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Cleveland, OH

Re: Which way is it

Actually K-Mart bought Sears but it was an actual "merger" not a buyout.

TuPaK

join:2002-07-21
San Gabriel, CA

16MBPS not available in my area...

"Today, Charter's top-end 16 Mbit/s service is available to about 80 percent of its Docsis footprint."

guess my city being 10 miles from downtown LA is too rural

or too congested by web enthusiasts :P
MySay

join:2008-04-08
Mansfield, TX

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Charter...

Charter's services are completely OP'd IMHO. TV + internet was costing me over $300 a month (all this was STILL during the introductory rates) w/ Charter. I tried to cut the TV (feel I'm paying this much to watch commercials), and just stick w/ the lowest internet plan they had... the lady said it'll be more expensive because I "dropped" the bundle. She quoted me $70/month (WTF?)! I got MORE w/ AT&T Uverse (have 3 standard receivers and 1 HD DVR; w/ Charter... I just had 1 HD DVR and used analog for the other sets). Both TV packages are very similar, and the net is also comparable (slightly slower w/ Uverse)! My HIGHEST bill w/ Uverse has been $137.

Charter... no thanks!