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2015-Mar-31 11:00 am
Re: great job.Hopefully the cost of merger doesn't take away from funding high speed upgrades for their footprint. | |
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Re: great job.???said by mergers :Hopefully the cost of merger doesn't take away from funding high speed upgrades for their footprint. Well you can be guaranteed that their past 9+% yearly increase for internet service will be increased significantly next time a price gouge occurs. | |
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chuch
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2015-Apr-1 10:24 am
Re: great job.???said by Red Hazard:Well you can be guaranteed that their past 9+% yearly increase That's funny because the local talking heads here on the Tampa News (a Brighthouse area) said that customer's shouldn't expect to see a change after the merger, including the standard 9% annual increase... | |
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karpodiemHail to The Victors Premium Member join:2008-05-20 Troy, MI 1 edit |
karpodiem
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2015-Mar-31 10:01 am
may it not go throughNo one needs to merge with TwC or Comcast. Those two need to be on their own, they are evil enough as-is.
"Reports suggest that the acquisition deal will only go forward if Comcast's acquisition of Time Warner Cable is approved by regulators."
Then I hope it doesn't go through. Charter and BH are a good merger for scale/size. Why does it need to be incumbent on TWC/Comcast's merger going through? So they don't have to compete with a merged TWC/Comcast?
It's like all cabelcos are carving up geographic footprints to NOT compete against each other. The only other competitor, at&t and VZW, can't get out of wireline quick enough.
THIS is the reason for all these mergers. Comcast/Charter/Time Warner are designing a terrestrial broadband monopoly in the US. | |
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Re: may it not go throughOf course cable companies have footprints that make them not compete with each other. Do you know how expensive it would be to build a coax network next to an existing coax network? You'd have avoid cutting the existing fiber and coax while you dig. Have to find places to locate your nodes and taps.
It's always been like this in almost any area of the country. | |
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karpodiem
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2015-Mar-31 10:41 am
Re: may it not go throughsaid by smcallah:Of course cable companies have footprints that make them not compete with each other. Do you know how expensive it would be to build a coax network next to an existing coax network? You'd have avoid cutting the existing fiber and coax while you dig. Have to find places to locate your nodes and taps.
It's always been like this in almost any area of the country. isn't any terrestrial provider subject to dealing with other infrastructure in the ground? People in the industry - what % of costs does dealing with this extra infrastructure to plan around actually add? | |
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Re: may it not go throughsaid by karpodiem:said by smcallah:Of course cable companies have footprints that make them not compete with each other. Do you know how expensive it would be to build a coax network next to an existing coax network? You'd have avoid cutting the existing fiber and coax while you dig. Have to find places to locate your nodes and taps.
It's always been like this in almost any area of the country. isn't any terrestrial provider subject to dealing with other infrastructure in the ground? Yes, it's no different that what Verizon FiOS and Google Fiber have to do right now. | |
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just to wire the town where I live when I was thinking about it 10 years ago would have cost me over $20million. Plus the frachise fee,etc. That's just a startup passing 20,000 homes in one city. | |
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BHN - TWC = ???Should Comcast's deal be rejected, Charter has suggested it will return its gaze toward the acquisition of Time Warner Cable itself, leaving Bright House Networks at the altar.Without TWC, there would not be a Bright House, therefore Charter would acquire BHN anyway. | |
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2015-Mar-31 10:37 am
Re: BHN - TWC = ???Not necessarily. BHN can be independent of TWC. | |
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Re: BHN - TWC = ???Yes, while Time Warner Cable handles all of Bright House's programming negotiations and a number of other things, Comcast is slated to pick those up. Company will inevitably be integrated by somebody in time, though. | |
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2015-Mar-31 10:53 am
Re: BHN - TWC = ???said by Karl Bode:Yes, while Time Warner Cable handles all of Bright House's programming negotiations and a number of other things, Comcast is slated to pick those up. Company will inevitably be integrated by somebody in time, though. True. BHN is too small to really stand alone, but they don't *have* to sell if they really didn't want to. Especially since they're a private company, they don't have to answer to Wall Street. If for some reason Comcast/TWC is denied I see Charter buying both TWC and Bright House. | |
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Re: BHN - TWC = ???I can see that happening, yes. Bright House is making it pretty clear they're receptive to offers. Probably only a matter of time before Cablevision gets gobbled up as well. | |
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2015-Mar-31 3:39 pm
Re: BHN - TWC = ???Comcast has South Florida. I could see Charter buying Comcast's Florida markets to get Comcast "under the cap" and then Comcast picking off Cablevision.
The obvious long game is that Charter and Comcast are going to build mega regional companies like AT&T and Verizon on the wireline side. The way to squeeze money out of the system is to gobble up as much that is adjacent as possible. | |
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2015-Mar-31 10:39 am
Comcast/TWCI think this means that Comcast/TWC is more likely to happen. This bails out Comcast which was having BHN customers attributed to TWC due to the programming agreement. Also, if the FCC or DOJ were going to deny the deal outright, they would have done so already. They killed AT&T/T-Mobile and Sprint/T-Mobile pretty quickly. This has dragged on long enough they will probably let it go through with some conditions. Would not be surprised if this was hinted at needing to happen by the FCC to Comcast/TWC. | |
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karpodiem
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2015-Mar-31 10:42 am
Re: Comcast/TWCsaid by mixdup:I think this means that Comcast/TWC is more likely to happen. This bails out Comcast which was having BHN customers attributed to TWC due to the programming agreement. Also, if the FCC or DOJ were going to deny the deal outright, they would have done so already. They killed AT&T/T-Mobile and Sprint/T-Mobile pretty quickly. This has dragged on long enough they will probably let it go through with some conditions. Would not be surprised if this was hinted at needing to happen by the FCC to Comcast/TWC. I'd like to see the financing details (debt being raised) for this deal. Something tells me that Brian Roberts fingerprints are somehow on this - he called up someone at one of the investment banks and had them put together financing for this to save the Comcast/TWC deal. | |
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2015-Mar-31 10:52 am
Re: Comcast/TWCsaid by karpodiem:said by mixdup:I think this means that Comcast/TWC is more likely to happen. This bails out Comcast which was having BHN customers attributed to TWC due to the programming agreement. Also, if the FCC or DOJ were going to deny the deal outright, they would have done so already. They killed AT&T/T-Mobile and Sprint/T-Mobile pretty quickly. This has dragged on long enough they will probably let it go through with some conditions. Would not be surprised if this was hinted at needing to happen by the FCC to Comcast/TWC. I'd like to see the financing details (debt being raised) for this deal. Something tells me that Brian Roberts fingerprints are somehow on this - he called up someone at one of the investment banks and had them put together financing for this to save the Comcast/TWC deal. Actually, Charter is not issuing any debt at all. They are issuing new shares. This will actually reduce Charter's debt load and give them the ability to borrow more in the future. | |
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said by mixdup:I think this means that Comcast/TWC is more likely to happen. This bails out Comcast which was having BHN customers attributed to TWC due to the programming agreement. Also, if the FCC or DOJ were going to deny the deal outright, they would have done so already. They killed AT&T/T-Mobile and Sprint/T-Mobile pretty quickly. This has dragged on long enough they will probably let it go through with some conditions. Would not be surprised if this was hinted at needing to happen by the FCC to Comcast/TWC. The AT&T/T-Mobile deal took a long time for the government to rule on, Sprint withdrew it's bid. It has less than a 40% chance to me of passing at this point and I want Comcast to buy TWC. Yes I am ready for the hate mail of saying I want TWC the golden child with hand picking city's Maxx gone even if Comcast has to do it. That and I really get the feeling a charter/TWC deal would go though if Comcast doesn't win. If none of that, then TWC will act like Verizon and sell off markets in mass to other cable ISP's. | |
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2015-Apr-1 9:38 am
Re: Comcast/TWCBut they only withdrew after it was made clear to them that it would not be successful. And I agree, if Comcast is somehow denied, Charter will snap up TWC and be successful, because a Charter + TWC or even Charter + TWC + Bright House combination would still be smaller than Comcast, and Charter/TWC/BHN wouldn't own any significant content like Comcast, either. | |
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Please free us, CharterPlease free us from Bright house's ridiculous overcharging (especially for standalone internet) for substandard internet. Hopefully it's not just trading one abuser for another though. | |
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Brian_M
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2015-Mar-31 12:05 pm
Re: Please free us, CharterIt's always hard to tell with hidden costs after promo time, but from what I can tell the advertised pricing on BH for the tier closest to the 60/4 that Charter offers, is within $5 of the Charter after-promo pricing.
The difference is with BH you can choose to pay less. I don't need/use 60/4, I'd be fine with 15/1 (heck, I'd be fine with 6/1).
I will say that my Charter connection has been one of the most reliable and steady that I've encountered. ~3 years now and I'm not sure that I'd have an outage... had a modem fail (one of theirs, replaced, no rental or replacement fee), but nothing from the service end. | |
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Re: Please free us, Chartersaid by Brian_M:It's always hard to tell with hidden costs after promo time, but from what I can tell the advertised pricing on BH for the tier closest to the 60/4 that Charter offers, is within $5 of the Charter after-promo pricing.
The difference is with BH you can choose to pay less. I don't need/use 60/4, I'd be fine with 15/1 (heck, I'd be fine with 6/1).
I will say that my Charter connection has been one of the most reliable and steady that I've encountered. ~3 years now and I'm not sure that I'd have an outage... had a modem fail (one of theirs, replaced, no rental or replacement fee), but nothing from the service end. How much is 60/4 with Charter where you are? I think the closest BHN plan would be the old 30/2 (now 35/2?) for about $75 or the 60/5 (now 75/5?) for about $90. From what I read Charter usually charges far less than that. To give you an idea right now I have 15/1 with BHN. My bill is $54 + $4 for the modem so about $58/month. | |
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Re: Please free us, CharterI pay $70.99 a month for 60/4 in Missouri with Charter. | |
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2015-Apr-2 7:46 am
Re: Please free us, Chartersaid by scott2020:I pay $70.99 a month for 60/4 in Missouri with Charter. $54.99 here for Charter's 60/4 plan. I'd like to know why and how Charter thinks they can purchase TWC if Comcast isn't allowed to though? Doesn't really make that much of a difference really. I mean, what the heck, if you not going to allow one big conglomerate to gobble up another, why allow somebody else. Either way, I see these merger's as garbage and nothing more than a way to NOT allow for the possibility of some competition, some day, maybe! | |
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2015-Apr-1 12:03 am
Re: Please free us, Chartersaid by Brian_M:I'm with Scott, $70. I'm at $39.99 out the door for 60/4 on promo and if i keep it off promo it goes to 59.99iirc. | |
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2015-Apr-1 1:09 pm
Re: Please free us, CharterI imagine those 2 are paying 5 bucks extra for charter to provide their wireless router and just rounding up since we dont pay taxes. 59.99 is standard pricing . | |
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said by paradigmfl:Please free us from Bright house's ridiculous overcharging (especially for standalone internet) for substandard internet.
Hopefully it's not just trading one abuser for another though. Unfortunately, nobody is getting freed today. You're just getting a new dictator. All bow to our Charter Comm overlords. It's not like many of us have a choice anyway -_- | |
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chip89
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2015-Mar-31 11:24 am
Like ComcastLike the TWC & Comcast merger this must be stopped! Service will be get worse & the first to go is online support! | |
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Re: Like Comcastsaid by chip89:Like the TWC & Comcast merger this must be stopped! Service will be get worse & the first to go is online support! I don't know. I'm really sick of paying about $60 a month for 1 mbps upload with Bright House. As I understand it Charter's normal pricing is either 30/4 or 60/4 for the same price! BHN has been gouging their customers for too long. | |
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2015-Mar-31 2:56 pm
Re: Like Comcastsaid by paradigmfl:I don't know. I'm really sick of paying about $60 a month for 1 mbps upload with Bright House. As I understand it Charter's normal pricing is either 30/4 or 60/4 for the same price! BHN has been gouging their customers for too long. Though your correct about the price and yes the new price would be nice, we have no guarantee that even if Charter purchased BH they would change the prices to match Charter's current territory prices. After all it is about money and they might see that they can monopolize the area as ATT & BH has done with prices and service. I agree with you that it would be nice to see the new speeds without bumping price. | |
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said by chip89:Like the TWC & Comcast merger this must be stopped! Service will be get worse & the first to go is online support! The only part going to be worse is Customer Service. Charter got rid of social media support and live chat. | |
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if twc/comcast is denied what's next for comcast?Will Comcast look at buying charter? Maybe cox or cablevision? | |
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2015-Mar-31 2:48 pm
Does Charter = Cap?Obligatory question... anybody know off-hand whether Charter sticks caps on its users? Brighthouse does not, and I'm sure none of us BH customers would be happy to see such a thing in our future if the merger is approved. | |
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Doesn't this deal need FCC and FTC approvals first?This is not a done deal, they still have regulatory hurdles to cross. I don't think this one will come to fruition either. Hopefully, because consolidation it is NOT good for customers. | |
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