 EdrickI aspire to tell the story of a lifetimePremium join:2004-09-11 Woburn, MA | Ahhh That a' boy Charter. Why change the status quo or do something good for the customers. Instead continue to stuff your executives pockets and loose more customers.
That's like having a giant storage tank of water and it springs a leak. Well how do we fix it we must keep it full of water?! Just keep pouring more water into it and not fix the underlying cause!
We keep loosing customers so lets increase the price! -- Edrick Smith Independent Film & Broadcast Producer »edricksmith.com | |
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 |  IcarusBig Trouble In Little HelixPremium,Mod join:2000-11-08 HERE & NOW Host: Comcast HSI Team Helix Connecticut Chat
| Re: Ahhh After getting my...*Sorry valued customer,we cant fix your 6 week old connection problem and if you call again it will cost you $35 letter* yesterday,Ive about had it with Charter after a long and great relationship with them. They have no loyalty to their customers anymore and is now just about the $$$ apparently.
Edit to add: The "letter" referenced above was received via the Charter Direct forum and dated 2 weeks ago but no hard copy in the snail mail. Skimping on postage maybe?  -- Just cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the circus has left town. Team Helix- Folding@Home and Rosetta@Home | |
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 | | Cable business as usual Seems to me the cable companies are the new telcos with their business behavior and attitude toward customers. Companies like Comcast are the new MaBell. | |
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| Re: Cable business as usual said by Cableismoney :Seems to me the cable companies are the new telcos with their business behavior and attitude toward customers. Companies like Comcast are the new MaBell. Not all cable co's are behaving like this...blv it or not there are plenty of very good and affordable MSO's. | |
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 jeffro join:2007-04-20 Bay City, MI | Low doesn't quite cover it. That's right. Trying to save some money lowly consumer? Gonna drop down to the lowest tier? Not without giving us $4 more. Way to go Charter. You've been and still are one of the absolute worst cable companies in this country. It's amazing and appalling how you charge what you charge for how little you provide compared to other cable companies for the same price. If I had a choice I would have had you out of my house and life forever years ago. How you are still in business is beyond me. | |
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 |  IowaManPremium join:2008-08-21 Grinnell, IA | Re: Low doesn't quite cover it. Umm Mediacom? I'd love the "Basic" for $16 vs the $27.95 I pay now I'd love 8 Mb Internet for $29.95 instead of the 3Mb I pay now as well.
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Because the mini basic package they talk about here in some parts of the US is only 5 local channels to about 12 or 15 channels in the bigger city's. Some markets like mine, we get the same channel from two markets but the same shows are on the two channels just different ads. I get 5 local channels plus 3 more of the same channels from a second market. So 8 locals but CBS, NBC and ABC have two channel each. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Low doesn't quite cover it. Well then i agree, Your both getting screwed, but that goes double for your area. | |
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 |  uther join:2001-12-04 Saint Louis, MO | said by jeffro: How you are still in business is beyond me. I worked at Charter for 7 months back in 2006. If I was given a dime for every time I heard that phrase, I'd retire young and wealthy.
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 RainX join:2009-12-07 Eau Claire, WI 1 edit | This is why This is why I completely cut ties with Charter back in September '08 and haven't looked back since. 6MB DSL through AT&T and OTA broadcasts might not be perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than dealing with Charter's frequent outages and biannual rate hikes. | |
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 Jerm join:2000-04-10 Richland, WA kudos:2 | BEST KARL quote evar! Cable's borderline disdain for cash-strapped customers couldn't be any more clear, and it will be a historical cornerstone when the story of the inevitable (but glacial) Internet video (r)evolution is told.
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 |  | | Re: BEST KARL quote evar! My wife, who usually doesn't complain about much at all, just said a couple days ago about how fed up she is getting with Charter, and I'm the one that pays that bill!!
They took her Hallmark channel and tv guide channel off the expanded tier and moved it to the digital tier. I just posted a question asking what happened to those channels a few days ago in the Charter forum even.
Just may have to check into Dish Network or something real soon. -- The Firefox alternative. »www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ | |
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| No longer pay to watch TV Because I refused to be a sucker to this anymore I cut the cord about 3 years ago. Crummy service, Indian customer service, crap programming and constant price hikes.
Doing very well with Netflix DVDs, free to air satellite and HDTV. As long as people refused to do without anything the situation will never change and these providers will keep ramming it to the customers with out a kiss. | |
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 |  |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by nottrue :As useual carl does not have all the facts the area that is getting the increase is only one are not charter wide Well of course not becuase in my area they increased the price of mini-basic to $30 several months ago. | |
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| minibasic may still be regulated ... just read this »www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/ca···tes.html Tomorrow I'll be calling my LFA which is Boston (according to my bill) and see what I can find out. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Charter "Forgot" about getting the appropriate clearances for the rate hike on minibasic service. I'll report back tomorrow. | |
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| Coming to a head... Do we let free-market enterprise work itself out or step in with consumer-minded regulation? If only it were a simple either or. This will likely come to an ugly head just as unsustainable housing prices did. Will consumers, in increasing numbers, just opt out altogether or get shut off for non-payment of service bills spun out of control? Either way spells a decline in the value of telcos' customer bases. Verizon is weak. They had a real opportunity here to snag all the disgruntled customers away from the land line providers but not at $80 for 10 GB. Perhaps they are pulling a Sony PS3 for $600 to start approach. Though I see that as fatal tactic for a service provider (vs. a goods manufacturer). Well it's AT&T's move next. They have been conspicuously absent from the tech headlines lately. | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: Coming to a head... said by puffgussy36:Do we let free-market enterprise work itself out or step in with consumer-minded regulation? There is no free market. Do I have a choice of cable companies? can I choose to go with Comcast or Cox or Time Warner if I don't like Charter? Nope. Thus a free market doesn't exist. | |
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Oh wait, the FCC chairman is a complete wuss and in the pocket of the telcos. Looks like we are all SOL.  | |
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The cable companies and teley companies will continue to buy the content providers, then who will they have to blame?? Its not long for me before I dump the whole thing, of course I think when that happens they will start upping the broadband charges, of course by then will probably be paying by the Kilobyte... Then its back to campfires and marshmellows for me. | |
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 |  |  DrDrew join:2009-01-28 Apple Valley, CA kudos:6 | Re: This happens when broadcasts demand fee increases Who said this particular franchise got both?
There's details missing from the story... but that's SOP for Karl. He posts just enough slanted info to rile up the masses. -- If it's important.... back it up... twice. | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Yeah except last month they said a $1 "broadcast fee" was being added to the bills. So this price increase has nothing to do with that. | |
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 stinger join:2001-03-22 Florissant, MO | Don't worry, Be happy... They're not worried about losing customers because plans are in the works to relieve broadcasters of their over-the-air bandwidth.
Very soon the only television available will be subscription based. | |
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| Re: Don't worry, Be happy... said by stinger:They're not worried about losing customers because plans are in the works to relieve broadcasters of their over-the-air bandwidth.
Very soon the only television available will be subscription based. According to current law, that can't happen but owning it and profiting from it is just as good. Just so you know owning a money losing business is just as good to write off profits form other businsses, broadband & digital voice for example. | |
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| Re: Don't worry, Be happy... Many TV stations are itching to shut down their transmitters. It costs thousands of dollars per month to operate just the transmitter. TV stations would much rather send their signal via fiber to the cable TV head end for distribution, while charging the cable company fees to carry their channel. There is a lot more money in distributing their programming that way. One day over the air programming will either be so stripped down no one will want it (except in an "emergency") or be gone altogether. Everyone will be on cable or satellite, and the "poor" people will get it for free while I pay for them to have it.
No one thought two satellite radio broadcast services would be allowed to merge either, but look at what paying off the right people can do. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Don't worry, Be happy... Price increases by cable companies for basic services will drive more people to OTA television. Digital TV prices are still dropping and cheap new & used converter boxes are everywhere. The only reason more people have not switched already is the lack of qualified installers and/or their lack of marketing about the availability of FREE Digital OTA T.V.
The cost of equipment is small if you are within 15-20 miles of the transmitters. I paid $35 for a DB2 online. Most homes already have internal coax wiring, so all it takes is the wire from the antenna (on mast) to the old cable TV input/splitter and some proper grounding.
With stagnant income growth and higher food and energy costs, more people will make the decision to cut the cable TV cord. This, in turn, will put more pressure on our government to abandon the notion of selling OTA spectrum.
Also, you are forgetting about the role of local programming with local stations and the emergency uses of such stations.
Our local PBS station does not even have a fiber connection. It all comes in and goes out OTA (microwave, delayed satellite), even to the cable TV head end. I donate to them every year to help support this.
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 | | OTA transmission is the future I believe that the long term future of OTA TV is better now than it was 10 years ago. Whatever the reason, cable tv is experiencing its first quarter over quarter contraction in history. The only way to offset this is to either raise rates or reduce expense. Raising rates will continue to erode the customer base so eventually they will begin to cut expense. This will be done by reducing the number of channels offered at the lower tiers. When these channels get less money they will collapse and the few shows that have any following will be moved to a surviving network. Reducing the number of channels will increase the amount that can be charged for advertising per channel, the OTA networks win. There is also the issue of live events like sports or the oscars. | |
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| Re: OTA transmission is the future Well well well, i seen all your dispointment with Cable providers, what if you guys from the same city, or even further, that have high speed internet connection connect their Cable tv to their PCs and broadcast TV channels with such programs as VLC player and TVants? there is already lots of channels available on such programs if you do a simple search for these two on google for example, you will realize that it is easier than you may think, with a 30$ generic tv pci grabbing card, you would be able to share your own channels trough internet with your friends, and get theirs if they do the same, imagine everyone doing this, but in a encrypted manner, how would the cable companies react to that and how, tell me how they would figure out stopping that trend... seriously, guys, do some research, it is worth it...
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