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join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA | Re: Business is business.... Liberalism is not something one finds in a Communist country. | |
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@pldt.net | Re: Business is business.... Oh yeah.. And whats ironic is the so called "Communist" country is going to overtake United States Of America both in economic and military power and will soon be the new super power country in the world in who knows? 5 years? 10 years?... Tsk... | |
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join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | Re: Business is business.... Yes they will be a power, and maybe super compared to there history. We (countries) will all share the responsibility (power) in the future. | |
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AndyWarhol
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join:2004-03-14
Broken Arrow, OK
clubs:
| Oh, you've got that right. Communist nations are indeed not liberal.
The communism/socialism duet, in theory, on the other hand is *supposed* to be the MOST liberal doctrine.
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | said by This Article :
Shanghai Telecom to bring the "highest-quality VoIP experience to its customers."
sounds like the same ol jibberish american companies dispense | |
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| blacksurfer
join:2002-07-14
Sherman Oaks, CA | Would encrypted the voip bandwidth, similar to what's being done to bittorent bandwidth, bypass the blocking? But then again, I think Skype is already encrypted, but Verson still are able to block Skype. | |
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pb5k
more cowbell
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join:2005-11-16
Glendale, AZ | Re: Would encryption work? I don't think encryption will work. Just like bittorrent traffic, Skype behaves in a certain way and ISPs can usually find it and throttle it to death. | |
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| sw30908
join:2002-06-02
Morrisville, NC | Communism is the ultimate form of liberalism. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | It is their Country This is a China call, what they want to do with their phone system is their business | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
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1 edit | Raid your business model? "If you have something in your network that is costing you money and raiding your business model, I assure you you're going to do something about it."
Translation: How DARE those customers raid our business model by using the service we advertise!
This ain't just the Chinese we're talking about...
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | Re: Look to American companies for help... Americans get shit DONE. The world needs something done, go to the best in the business. | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | American broadband sucks? Attach this along with the censorship articles to the next American broadband sucks article.
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WAR HAS NEVER SOLVED ANYTHING, except ending slavery, facism, communism, Nazism.... | |
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join:2000-07-08
North Little Rock, AR
clubs: | Re: American broadband sucks? Shangai Telecom sounds a lot like AT&T and Comcast. | |
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| Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON
| The problem is that a censorship driven, communist country that blocks technology in order to allow government controlled telecoms to flourish is still beating the US a Democratic, "free" that doesn't censor and supports capitalism.
Something is inherently wrong with that. | |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| Re: American broadband sucks? said by Shark_615  :The problem is that a censorship driven, communist country that blocks technology in order to allow government controlled telecoms to flourish is still beating the US a Democratic, "free" that doesn't censor and supports capitalism. Something is inherently wrong with that. No doubt China is hot right now, but it won't last forever.
One of the reasons China is flourishing, is it is still an emerging country. Environmental laws are weak, wages are low, and when it benefits the state, restrictions on manufacturers are light. Don't be surprised if in the next 10 years, the bubble in China bursts like in Japan.
China's biggest problem is they can not feed and house their exponentially growing population. Arable land is being gobbled up at a rate that makes the housing boom here in the US look like, well, I can't think of an analogy.
The day will come when China can't feed their people anymore, and guess what country has the most productive farm land in the world? Yep, the US.
I do predict grain and foodstuffs will be the essential commodity of the 21st century, with the US taking the lead in feeding the world's population.
MAN, did I just go off topic or WHAT?!?!?!
Sorry about that..... | |
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join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON
| Re: American broadband sucks? China IS the Worlds largest producer of Wheat, then India and then the US.
China is mostly self sufficient in rice production with few imports.
The US is not self sufficient in any food stuffs it also has to import water from Canada.
China is also the Worlds largest producer of grains.
China's population is going DOWN.
China is thousands of years old.
I think you need to do some more research you are way off in many things. | |
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join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON | Re: American broadband sucks? That is true, which is why I mentioned the fact that China is all but capable of supporting itself with its rice.
The US would not be able to produce enough wheat for China let alone the rest of the world. | |
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join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA
| What are you talking about, you pull this out of your ass. We are the Biggest agriculture producer in the world, and if we wanted to feed the world we could. Ex cuss me if we were paid to feed the world we could. You just said everything that is not true, how can you say that China's population is going down, every country's population is on the rise. I think you need to read a history book and look up the population levels. I am blown away by your ignorance, i think you top the list. | |
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join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON
1 edit | Re: American broadband sucks? Are you serious?
Everything I posted is a fact. Ignorant bullheaded Americans like you make the rest of your country look stupid. You are NOT the biggest agricultural producer in the world, get over it.
Do you even know where China is? Is it that difficult to believe that China and India both out produce the US when it comes to food stuffs?
»www.spectrumcommodities.com/educ···eat.html
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of···of_China
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China
Please feel free to post contrary evidence to what I posted.
By the way if you are going to call me ignorant AT LEAST spell properly. WTF is "Ex cuss"? | |
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join:2002-06-04
Saint Paul, MN
| Re: American broadband sucks? Please, don’t beat your drums on China! Despite their agricultural power they can’t even feed everyone within their borders; I mean what’s a bowl of rice worth nowadays? Don’t post or give reference to mere numbers; they do not represent reality or change the reality in present China.
China is what it is, a nation of deceit where people are worth no more than speck of dirt. No wonder to Chinese the word “democracy” and most importantly “freedom” is as foreign as “capitalism” is to Canadians.
Be careful whose side you’re on! I prefer a fork over chopsticks anyways…. | |
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Pickering, ON | Re: American broadband sucks? Is that way the US has given China favoured nation status? | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| said by Shark_615 :The problem is that a censorship driven, communist country that blocks technology in order to allow government controlled telecoms to flourish is still beating the US a Democratic, "free" that doesn't censor and supports capitalism. The flip side of this is that China's economy is entirely dependant on consumption of its exports to the USA. If people in this country ever tire of cheaply made, low quality Chinese products... then China is going to have some very serious problems.
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join:2004-03-19
Here
| Chinese business is simple Think of it all as a racket. Every business is connected to the gov't by the hand they grease. If you offend a company that greases a powerful hand then you're shut down. No protest... no appeal... nothing. Your only recourse is to grease that same hand more. If you can't... you lose. | |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | Re: Chinese business is simple we have rackets also just not as centralized as China's ours is called lobbies | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: Chinese business is simple Yea, but our guys have laws and stuff they need to get through. There's legal recourses, judicial challenges. In China it's more like a mob syndicate. | |
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stonecolddsl
Linux Junkie
join:2004-01-07
Sarasota, FL
·Rapid Systems, Inc.
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| vpn might be the solution I wonder when the Voip providers will start using vpn connections from there ATA terminals to there servers. It would make it near impossible to say what is being transmited in that tunnel. They can guess based on where the trafic is going and with Ciscos deep apacket analyst it supposed to even figure out the type of traffic. it would be a pain in the arse for ISP to try and block traffice that they cant read because it encrypted and probably the only option voip providers have. | |
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mlundin
join:2001-03-27
Lawrence, KS | The future...wwoooo.... If China keeps blocking ports and IP ranges at their present rate, pretty soon they won't have any internet at all. Flashback to the 80's!!! yay! | |
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FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD
| lmao "Yea, but our guys have laws and stuff they need to get through. There's legal recourses, judicial challenges."
oh, thats hilarious. The laws that were enacted so scum bag lobbyists get EVERYTHING THEY WANT? I mean, you throw money at the problem, you'll get a solution. Dont be THAT naive, man... | |
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