 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | Can rollback firmware & turn off auto update
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Per our conversation, please download the EA4500 firmware from the link below to rollback your firmware: »www.dropbox.com/s/ph3a9jbfge5or9···1047.SSA Now, follow the instructions below to rollback the firmware: Unplug the Ethernet cable from the WAN port of your EA4500 router. Go to »192.168.1.1 to access your router. NOTE: Username and password should still be what you have previously used. Once logged in, Click on Connectivity from the menu options on the left. The Firmware Update option will be on the right-hand side of the first tab. Within the Manual box, click on the Choose File button Browse to the file you downloaded the firmware to. Once selected, click start. Once your router is rolled back, you will need to log back into your router and disable automatic firmware updates or your router will upgrade again. This option can be disabled by clicking on the Administrative tab and then the Firmware Upgrade sub-tab. Save settings
I am sure you can find older firmware for other eligible Linksys routers on their site or elsewhere on internet.
And if you turn off autoupdate firmware now, you won't be bothered.
And I agree, that autoupdate to the new "Connect" firmware where you have to signup for the service is stupid. -- »www.mittromney.com/s/repeal-and-···bamacare »www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care | |
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 |  spewakR.I.P DadkinsPremium join:2001-08-07 Elk Grove, CA kudos:1 | One reason I use Netgear products.  --
Romney equals Epic Fail! | |
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 skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium join:2012-01-26 AA169|170 kudos:2 | Bring on the ambulance chasers... Someone has to get Cisco users a $5 coupon toward a new Cisco device and pay a few million for lawyers' vacation homes and kids' tuition. | |
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 | | cisco needs the money after all, how do they pay the million dollar bonuses to the executives? the money doesn't go to improve service, it goes for bonuses. (and bribes to government agencies to leave them alone) | |
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 |  | | Re: cisco needs the money Cisco had excellent luxury box at Yankee stadium....the only "bribe" i got was tons of beer tickets and food from Cisco. They always had more food then other vendors. | |
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 | | Seriously??!?! Wow... This is nuts... And while you can go back to the old version, it also means that you can't upgrade again.... until they remove this crap.
What is wrong with these companies?!?!?!?
Have it be optional... you get their devices for free if you agree to them using your data they collect and sell. | |
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 |  | | Re: Seriously??!?! Wow... said by Ianto Jones:This is nuts...
What is wrong with these companies?!?!?!?
I agree if true. This is one thing privacy/consumer groups should pounce on. | |
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 TwiztedZeroNine Zero Burp Nine SixPremium join:2011-03-31 Toronto, ON kudos:3 Reviews:
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| [Fire] In Ur Holes! And so Cisco branded anythings gets thrown onto the ever growing boycott vendor list along with Apple and Sony . . .

. . . Let the bridge burning commence! | |
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 |  | | Re: [Fire] In Ur Holes! Don't forget to throw Google in that list as well | |
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 |  |  brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | Re: [Fire] In Ur Holes! said by milkman82:Don't forget to throw Google in that list as well  You forgot Adobe and Microsoft. | |
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 pokesphIt Is Almost FastPremium join:2001-06-25 Sacramento, CA kudos:1 | greed Apparently the greed bug that infects most companies today has hit up the linksys division of Cisco. "Gimme you infos so I can sell it and make more monies!"
so sad.
I no longer use any newer linksys products myself (quality, performance, and looks have gone way downhill) but for you others still using these, I feel bad. -- Webmaster - Steve - - - - - - - - - - - - »www.1-gb.net »www.ppnstudio.com | |
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 |  ctgreybeardOld dogs can learn new tricksPremium join:2001-11-13 Bethel, CT | Re: greed said by pokesph:I no longer use any newer linksys products myself (quality, performance, and looks have gone way downhill) but for you others still using these, I feel bad. I just trashed my E3200 last week because it was increasingly flaky. Now I'm extra glad I did. -- Old dogs can learn new tricks! | |
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 whfsdudePremium join:2003-04-05 Washington, DC | Consumer Routers Atom + pfsense is really the way to go. At least for users of this site. | |
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 |  Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | Re: Consumer Routers ..or just flash dd-wrt, OpenWRT, or Tomato onto their routers. | |
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 |  |  danclan join:2005-11-01 Midlothian, VA | Re: Consumer Routers Doesnt work on these newer routers they run Marvell chip set so no dd-wrt or tomato for you.... | |
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 |  |  |  Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | Re: Consumer Routers said by danclan:Doesnt work on these newer routers they run Marvell chip set so no dd-wrt or tomato for you.... Ya.. That's what stinks about them.
Good thing I'm looking into Buffalo and Ubiquiti. The consumers should see if the router they're thinking of buying is compatible with dd-wrt. | |
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 |  TheMGPremium join:2007-09-04 Canada kudos:1 | My preferred choice is Mikrotik stuff. Cheaper than an Atom pfsense build but it still kicks ass and extremely flexible what it can do. | |
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 | | lol. U mad bro?! I wonder if this was covered in the devices licensing agreement? | |
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 | | Does it apply to all Cisco routers? The article isn't clear on which routers are getting the new firmware. When I read this, I assumed they meant routers like the ASA. Looking at the comments, It appears that this only applied to the small home routers. Can some one clear this up? | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Does it apply to all Cisco routers? I guess my next router will be a Dlink or Netgear. That's a pretty lousy way for Cisco to treat people who paid them for equipment. --
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 |  PaulgDisplaced YooperPremium join:2004-03-15 Neenah, WI kudos:1 | Not to be pedantic, but the ASA is NOT a router, its a security appliance. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Does it apply to all Cisco routers? said by Paulg:Not to be pedantic, but the ASA is NOT a router, its a security appliance. Yes. You are correct.  | |
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 |  |  vannyxPremium join:2003-07-07 Bronx, NY | too bad it isnt a UTM appliance. | |
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 |  |  |  PaulgDisplaced YooperPremium join:2004-03-15 Neenah, WI kudos:1 | Re: Does it apply to all Cisco routers? I disagree. I'd rather have 2 good devices than 1 that is mediocre at both. | |
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 | | Moral of the story... ...RTFM. And disable auto updates if you don't want them. | |
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 | | Cisco- greed at it's best I've had problems with Cisco before. Once it was over a VXR7200 router. I was on a 3 way conversation with network ops and Cisco. We determined the problem was the VXR and it needed a new motherboard. Cisco being bitches they are, demanded a credit card before shipping it. That alone infuriated me, considering we've purchased millions of dollars of their equipment, not for just my network but other organization's networks. Cisco put us on hold. I told network ops when this was all done, I was going to push for replacing all cisco devices with foundry and cisco can eat a sh*t sandwich. Upon saying this, cisco came back on the line and said no credit card was needed and a new motherboard would be sitting on the security desk Sunday morning (this was Friday night).
My other challenge started when linksys went under the cisco umbrella. I had some SPA962 phones at home and needed new firmware updates. I got into a hour long pissing contest with the idiot cisco rep over why I had to pay for a critical update when it was their firmware that was jacked up in the first place. If they wrote tight programs, there would be no critical updates. I told the rep to keep talking because I was working on a letter to my state attorney general on filing charges under the RICO Act for racketeering and extortion. She suddenly got nice and provided access to the updates.
I quit buying cisco routers for home use years ago. I game a lot and noticed their routers would wear out after 6 months and start dropping packets, firmware re flash or not. The D-Link gamer lounge has been rock solid for the last 6 years and still running strong. When doing installs and upgrades for SMB's, I spec D-Link routers and call cisco SMB equipment for what it is- junk. | |
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| They've lost their sense of direction I believe Cisco has started to lose their sense of direction for what they're looking to accomplish in their business. While I'm sure they're not going to go piss off the enterprise and service provider market by pulling these tricks since that's where all of their money is selling powerful Firewall and Routing appliances (or gear, whichever term you use to identify network gear as a whole), Cisco seems to be more concerned with trafficking data to sell it, and to sell more gear based on that traffic than to actually build hardware and write respective software for them. This "pushed firmware" is just wrong on so many levels based on what their ultimate intentions are with it. "Higher end" users that still preferred Linksys routers with stock firmware will be irked, and Cisco could have very well put some people at an inconvenience by flashing the routes remotely or relying on auto-update to do it. A lot of stuff breaks from that kind of upgrade.
Linksys will never be the same again I'm afraid. Gone are the days of the units actually being decent (WRT54G(*) for example). This Cisco Cloud router-based management is yet another thing to bug up in the router to cause all sorts of issues down the road, and yet another thing to waste CPU cycles and RAM decreasing the performance of the unit. Can't say I've seen third party firmware bug out enough to cause a minor inconvenience (eg: Change a setting, something is fixed, or UPnP is broken, so you just reload the daemon via cron every now and again). Either way, Cisco's going in the wrong direction. I'm also afraid they're setting a role-model for other manufacturers too. | |
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 Anonymous_AnonymousPremium join:2004-06-21 127.0.0.1 kudos:2 | illegal wire tap
How long before they get sued for illegal wire taps? | |
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 | | .....wow wow, thats really not cool cisco.. im glad i have a e3000 and already loaded a custom firmware onto it... | |
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 pclover join:2008-08-02 Santa Cruz, CA | Juniper Networks Well if Cisco pulls tricks on enterprise there is always Juniper Networks they can use.
Out of the this question but I herd Juniper has better cheaper products. | |
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| Re: Juniper Networks said by pclover:Well if Cisco pulls tricks on enterprise there is always Juniper Networks they can use.
Out of the this question but I herd Juniper has better cheaper products. You've heard well. Their gear can push a *TON* of data for less upfront cost, which is why you find Juniper in the core of many high-bandwidth networks . Not that Cisco can't do it, but I suppose there's trade-offs to each supplier. | |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA kudos:3 Reviews:
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| So what happens when... ...someone can't get online due to a route/ or even a possible error but can't check locally either. i understand them wanting to get into the VERY profitable "managed system" business, but someone didn't think this through. It is fine to offer it, don't force down the throat of existing customers who don't want it.
Bad Cisco BAD! | |
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 |  Smith6612Premium,MVM join:2008-02-01 North Tonawanda, NY kudos:22 | Re: So what happens when... Apparently when there's no Internet the Cloud features shut off and you can access the router GUI. So, they kinda did but I'm not sure if anyone knows how robust it actually is. | |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | This is what happens... When Corporate interests (Money) trump consumer protection, privacy, anti-trust laws. | |
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 |  tshirtPremium,MVM join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA kudos:3 Reviews:
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1 edit | Re: This is what happens... I was considering upgrading to a 4200 or maybe waiting to see what comes next in that series but unless they offer both managed and unmanged firmware upgrades I'll be staying with D-link DIR-655's and up for now. I don't want to be forced into a managed stream, yet firmware update and fixes are a nessesary evil in the current fast cycle world. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: This is what happens... ignore what these guys have to say. the original e4200 doesnt use the new cloud connect firmware. | |
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 |  |  |  tshirtPremium,MVM join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA kudos:3 Reviews:
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| Re: This is what happens... Unfortunatly the 4500 was the" next in the series" I was considering. I want a smart router, I just don't want it smarter than me, and I want it to do as I (me and only me) say.
this doen't sound secure, private, web safe, or something I want until they iron this out and clearly define what they are selling. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: This is what happens... well i'd just not do the update thats all. no point shooting yourself in the foot by falling for all the BS these posters come up with. | |
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 BiggA join:2005-11-23 EARTH | Note to self... Don't buy any more Cisco routers except WRT-54GLs since I flash those to Tomato anyways. Not that I was planning to anyways. I've switched to Netgear, and I've been very happy with what they do. | |
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 amungusPremium join:2004-11-26 America 1 edit | Dear Cisco This is bullshit. That is all. | |
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 | | Cisco VP/GM Response to this issue
Cisco addresses this issue in a blog: »blogs.cisco.com/home/answering-o···t-cloud/
The blog states, in part: "Cisco prides itself on offering the best customer experiences, and privacy and security are at the core of everything we do. That goes for Cisco Connect Cloud too. When a customer signs up for a Cisco Connect Cloud account, personal information is used only to establish an account in order to provide customer support. Consistent with Cisco's practices, Cisco Connect Cloud does not actively track, collect or store personal info or usage data for any other purposes, nor is it transmitted to third parties. We also wanted to clear up any confusion about Cisco's `opt in' practices. Cisco Connect Cloud was delivered only to consumers who opted in to automatic updates.
While we hope this reminder of our standard company practices will allay any concerns, customers who do not wish to establish a Cisco Connect Cloud account and would prefer to revert back to the traditional Linksys setup and management software can do so by calling the Linksys customer support line at 1-800-326-7114. One of our agents will walk you through the process." | |
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 |  | | Re: Cisco VP/GM Response to this issue I called the number and it is bull***. They don't walk you through the process at all. They tell you about all the benefits of the new firmware. I am so, so angry. Never again will I buy a Cisco product. EVER, ever, ever. | |
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