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Council Bluffs, IA | LTE With what seems like most carriers choosing LTE instead of WiMax, its going to be a tough sell to consumers if they don't get WiMax going "mass market" asap and push it hard. I don't see Clearwire lasting much longer even if the deal goes through. It's almost like looking at Earthlink all over again. | |
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Hingham, MA | Re: LTE Nobody's going to be selling "WiMax" or "LTE", except in the smaller print. My guess both will be branded with "4G" now that Apple has made "3G" a mainstream term in the United States. | |
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| | Taking too long Its taking too long for Clearewire to build out coverage. AT&T and Verizon will be rolling out LTE across their footprint long before Clearwire is able to establish a competitive threat at the rate they're moving now.
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | Re: Taking too long There's a good possibility.
WiMAX may be able to deliver product, however, its been hype for so long now (few years?), that WiMAX will be not a direct competitor to LTE, but more of a niche service offering, which will probably not bring in the revenue needed.
The 'good' part is that WiMAX isn't a fixed service offering, and can be implemented for just about any purpose.
Kind of like a flexibility of bluetooh/WiFi, with range of cellular (if not better), but running in licensed airspace.
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kudos:4 | said by BillRoland:Its taking too long for Clearewire to build out coverage. AT&T and Verizon will be rolling out LTE across their footprint long before Clearwire is able to establish a competitive threat at the rate they're moving now. Clearwire has some big money backers(Comcast, Intel, Google). The question is how long will they keep funding things if Clearwire doesn't move more quickly in establishing itself and signing up large numbers of customers. The stockholders for Comcast, Google, & Intel will start complaining to their boards if progress isn't made. They won't pump money down a rat hole for very long.
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| | | | Re: Taking too long said by Romney2012:said by BillRoland:Its taking too long for Clearewire to build out coverage. AT&T and Verizon will be rolling out LTE across their footprint long before Clearwire is able to establish a competitive threat at the rate they're moving now. Clearwire has some big money backers(Comcast, Intel, Google). The question is how long will they keep funding things if Clearwire doesn't move more quickly in establishing itself and signing up large numbers of customers. The stockholders for Comcast, Google, & Intel will start complaining to their boards if progress isn't made. They won't pump money down a rat hole for very long. I have to agree, Clearwire better not be expecting too many more bailouts by the big guys, unless results show up fairly soon I think the investments are going to dry up pretty quick.
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| | | | | Re: Taking too long I don't see how they could possibly get a quick return on investment. The municipalities won't pony up for it, Americans are getting gouged across the board for services that are already being rendered. I just do not see it happening!
Nice avatar bill.
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|  a333A hot cup of integrals please
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Rego Park, NY | LTE? It's not even out of the labs yet innit? 'Least WiMax has been adopted in the real world... | |
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Oklahoma City, OK | said by BillRoland:Its taking too long for Clearewire to build out coverage. AT&T and Verizon will be rolling out LTE across their footprint long before Clearwire is able to establish a competitive threat at the rate they're moving now. AT&T still hasn't managed to cover 1/2 the EVDO areas with 3g, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one... | |
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| | | | Re: Taking too long Say what? ATT doesn't even have 1/5 the 3G area coverage that Sprint and Verizon have. | |
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Oklahoma City, OK | Re: Taking too long said by xenophon:Say what? ATT doesn't even have 1/5 the 3G area coverage that Sprint and Verizon have. that was my point. I may have worded it poorly, I was saying that AT&T's 3g coverage is abysmal. | |
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Hingham, MA | Re: Taking too long The current Clearwire has spectrum assets of its own in some markets and could deploy at least in those areas before the merger. | |
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1 edit | Re: Real Threat? said by skymax :
If the Clearwire/Sprint network was not a real threat, AT&T would just ignore them.
Couldn't have said that better 
They just need FCC approval is all. at&t the monopoly wanna-be is sweating seeing the enormous backing clearwire has and wants to slow it all down.
As to LTE - if you read about it, both wimax and lte stem from the same idea of connectivity, lte using 85% of what wimax has already been built on. Those supposed better speeds of LTE are of lab tests and of course not near real world speed as there isn't any yet. | |
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| en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | I would tend to agree.. however, its much cheaper (and lawyers are already being paid for) to do the 'ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure' approach. I'm sure that Microsoft never saw Netscape as much of a threat either, but ran them bankrupt regardless, as it was 'the right thing to do'.
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| | LTE who... What people outside of the wireless world don’t realize is that your capabilities are limited by how much megahertz of spectrum you have. The carriers that are deploying LTE have on average 10 to 55 MHz per market. If the deal between Clearwire and Sprint goes through the new company will have around 120 MHz per market. LTE will work just fine as long as there isn’t more than a few users on the sector. | |
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| | | Re: LTE who... This is the reality and is why ATT is challenging the merger. Sprint/Clearwire can potentially leapfrog all US carriers in data if they find the bucks to rollout nationwide.
They will leave everyone else in the dust with as much spectrum they have. | |
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Hingham, MA | Re: LTE who... As long as Clearwire can keep getting funding in these initial stages, at least...
The thing is, with the 700Mhz spectrum VZW (and T, though they aren't planning LTE until a few years later than VZW) can potentially deploy much faster with less towers- however, the network will have less capacity. If "the new" Clearwire hasn't gotten at least its urban portions wired by then they could be left in the dust deployment-wise. | |
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