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Clearwire is in my area, I want fast ass Internet. Cumcast is slow for the $ | |
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| | I hope... I hope that Clearwire is able to stay in business and hopefully moving to LTE will be the key that keeps them in the game. | |
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|  redxiiPremium,Mod
join:2001-02-26
Sherwood, MI | Re: I hope... Moving to LTE is one thing, their business practices are another. | |
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| We can only hope! Wasn't WiMax supposed to have better data rates than LTE in the beginning. Whatever happened to that?
Watch this be YET another Sprint failure. They will have the equipment in place to support 90megabits, and a 512 kbit DSL connection as back haul. That's Sprint for Ya.
They need to secure back haul to their sites, before they bother putting up antennas and transmitters. | |
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| Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
1 edit | Re: We can only hope! said by flyingjoey:Watch this be YET another Sprint failure. They will have the equipment in place to support 90megabits, and a 512 kbit DSL connection as back haul. That's Sprint for Ya.
Doesn't sound much different than Clearwire now. What good are "mind blowing" trials when it's the end user result that counts. | |
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| Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | said by flyingjoey:They need to secure back haul to their sites, before they bother putting up antennas and transmitters.
The problem for all U.S. providers is that this country doesn't have enough "last mile" fiber being developed to have world class 4G. | |
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| |  espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
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| Re: We can only hope! said by Sammer:said by flyingjoey:They need to secure back haul to their sites, before they bother putting up antennas and transmitters.
The problem for all U.S. providers is that this country doesn't have enough "last mile" fiber being developed to have world class 4G. That's not even remotely close to being true.
Look at all of the current fiber holdings of Level(3), MCI's vast fiber plant due to Worldcom's acquisition of MFS, or even companies like Zayo that have aggressive metro buildouts in several markets.
The backhaul issue is actively being solved because there is a business case with proven ROI to build out that infrastructure. | |
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| | | | | Re: We can only hope! That’s exactly true! Level 3 & MCI’s fiber networks aren’t ran to most cell sites. It takes extreme capital and construction to extend the lines to each site. Over the last couple of years AT&T has been extending fiber to a lot of their sites and they’re not even half way done yet. It’s going to take several years to get the backhaul in place. And then once everything is in place the cost to build it will be pasted to the customer with higher prices. | |
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| | | | espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: We can only hope! Most of the fiber providers are doing smarter buildouts these days, like not planning installation just around a single customer. Right now we're actively pursuing getting private fiber for our own use via a company that is building out wireless infrastructure fiber for both Sprint and Verizon. These build projects in many cities are coming to completion in 2011/2012.
If the statement was that it wasn't available today, I wouldn't have disagreed. The statement was that there is nothing in development, and that couldn't be further from the truth. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: We can only hope! said by espaeth:Most of the fiber providers are doing smarter buildouts these days, like not planning installation just around a single customer. Right now we're actively pursuing getting private fiber for our own use via a company that is building out wireless infrastructure fiber for both Sprint and Verizon. These build projects in many cities are coming to completion in 2011/2012.
If the statement was that it wasn't available today, I wouldn't have disagreed. The statement was that there is nothing in development, and that couldn't be further from the truth.
You run a wireless internet company? That explains your bias... | |
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| | | | | | espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: We can only hope! said by sonicmerlin:You run a wireless internet company? That explains your bias... No, as I've stated in the past, I work in healthcare. We are working with the companies building out fiber to various cell towers because, if you haven't noticed, cell towers are pretty much everywhere. So since these companies are already installing fiber near our locations, it becomes very cost effective to have them also run connections to our facilities while they're already working in the area. | |
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|  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | said by flyingjoey:Wasn't WiMax supposed to have better data rates than LTE in the beginning. Whatever happened to that?
Watch this be YET another Sprint failure. They will have the equipment in place to support 90megabits, and a 512 kbit DSL connection as back haul. That's Sprint for Ya.
They need to secure back haul to their sites, before they bother putting up antennas and transmitters.
The real problem is that both Sprint & Clearwire are losing money hand over fist and both are heavily in debt. Combining the 2 may only make things even worse.
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| lbesing
join:2002-01-23
San Antonio, TX | I agree regarding their need to increase their back haul capacity. That's their primary problem. They have plenty of spectrum, more than AT&T, T-Mobile & Verizon combined. The problem is capacity. When you have hundreds of customers connecting via a particular cell tower site, but that cell tower site can't pass their traffic fast enough to adjacent sites, and thus back to the backbone access for the Internet, it clogs up. Sort of like flooding in a river when you have too heavy of a rain, and the water can't get down stream fast enough.
Going to LTE will only increase the congestion for CLEAR. I'm sure glad they didn't go ahead with their 4G cell phone ideas, assuming those weren't simply going to be Sprint clones (like the HTC EVO which I own & love).
Time Warner (a CLEAR partner) announced they were looking into a 4G phone, and if they intend to run that solely on CLEAR's 4G network, look out America!
Lee in San Antonio, TX | |
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join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | I love how Clearwire is 100% UNLIMITED, NO CAPS, NOTHING COMPLETELY UNLIMITED!*
*Significant throttling when over 5gb | |
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| | | Re: I love how Clearwire is 100% UNLIMITED, NO CAPS, NOTHING Yeah, it's completely unlimited until you hit a magic number, and then they throttle you down to like 9600 baud. | |
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| | | | Re: I love how Clearwire is 100% UNLIMITED, NO CAPS, NOTHING said by flyingjoey:Yeah, it's completely unlimited until you hit a magic number, and then they throttle you down to like 9600 baud.
The more backhaul they get and the better distribution of the spectrum then they won't have to throttle as much. It's still up to other factors to make the entire experience better. | |
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| | | | | Re: I love how Clearwire is 100% UNLIMITED, NO CAPS, NOTHING said by tdouglas22:said by flyingjoey:Yeah, it's completely unlimited until you hit a magic number, and then they throttle you down to like 9600 baud.
The more backhaul they get and the better distribution of the spectrum then they won't have to throttle as much. It's still up to other factors to make the entire experience better. It has more to do with them sacrificing customer experience at the cost of rapid expansion and pinching pennies. | |
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| | | VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | said by tdouglas22:said by flyingjoey:Yeah, it's completely unlimited until you hit a magic number, and then they throttle you down to like 9600 baud.
The more backhaul they get and the better distribution of the spectrum then they won't have to throttle as much. It's still up to other factors to make the entire experience better. Yea, I am sure they are thinking of consumers when they do it | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by Van:COMPLETELY UNLIMITED!*
*Significant throttling when over 5gb
some weren't even 5gb when they got throttled.
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join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX | Mind blowing when no one else is on the tower. | |
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join:2005-11-23
EARTH | Like TeliaSonera This could be the first true 4G network in the US, with speeds up to 100mbps mobile, just like TeliaSonera in Sweeden! | |
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | What about latency? It's great to have a super fast pipe but if it takes a 1000ms to negotiate with the tower and get the damn stream started, it'll never replace wired connections.
If they can get the latency under 100ms, it will offer some really STRONG competition to wired connections -- provided they don't cripple it with ridiculous usage meters and caps. | |
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| | | Re: What about latency? it will take at least 3 more years to get a reliable, affordable and fast enough wireless internet everywhere in US...so don't get too anxious | |
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 SkipdawgThe OriginalPremium,ExMod 2001-03
join:2001-04-19
Mount Vernon, WA | [NEWS] Clearwire: LTE Trial Results 'Mind Blowing' "Clearwire will need to secure additional funding to run (at least initially) a dual WiMax LTE network -- a move that could culminate in Sprint acquiring Clearwire outright."
Now that has my interest peaked. And I like the sound of it. | |
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