Clearwire Launches Silicon Valley Network Developers get to ride for free... Clearwire has announced the launch of their WiMax Innovation Network, which will bring Mobile WiMax functionality to twenty-square miles of Silicon Valley. The network, which will cover portions of Palo Alto, Santa Clara and Google's hometown of Mountain View (sorry, Google Wi-Fi), is obviously aimed at bolstering developers interested in working with Mobile WiMax solutions. According to a press release, aside from the $50 cost for a USB modem, developers will get access to the network for free. The service provides peak download speeds of up to 10 Mbps, with average download speeds of 3 to 6 Mbps.
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 | | Get the whole Bay Area done Wonder what is stopping them from doing the whole Bay Area? And where is Chicago? That's been unofficially online for almost a year on the Xohm side. So has Dallas. | |
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1 edit | Re: Get the whole Bay Area done Yea, it seems like they should have gone for the whole SF Bay Area. Their map show 3 large pockets of coverage in the South Bay.
But, the hold up for Chicago, everywhere else for that matter, is almost certainly a matter of permitting of new sites and backhaul.
Site permitting is requires local gov approval, and can take over a year.
T1 lines isn't enough for backhaul anymore. Fiber or PtP wireless+fiber is needed. Each site will need at least 100 Mb/s, and more in the future. This is the problem with 4G, and it affects all operators.
This Telephony Online article talks about what Clearwire is doing with wireless backhaul:
'»telephonyonline.com/3g4g/news/cl···ml?imw=Y'
Wireless backhaul systems are developing very rapidly. They typically operate in the 60, 70, 80, 90 GHz spectrum. Some are already capable of more than 1 Gb/s, and in the future should do 10 Gb/s. | |
| | | | | Re: Get the whole Bay Area done Yea, backhaul will be the biggest challenge for all 4G carriers. ATT is claiming higher speeds with 7.2 HSPA but I'd be surprised if they provide enough backhaul to every site to sustain that.
The current WiMAX devices could do up to 15Mbps if the backhaul and MIMO antennas were there. | |
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1 edit | Re: Get the whole Bay Area done The back haul problem is being corrected by the Cable Co's.
Edit- I'm talking about Clear. | |
| | | | | | Well, as a recent article in dslreports noted, ATT's upgrade to 7.2 HSPA was not accompanies with upgrades to backhaul (to the irritation of Apple). | |
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1 edit | said by Samsonian:Yea, it seems like they should have gone for the whole SF Bay Area. Their map show 3 large pockets of coverage in the South Bay. Sorry, where is this map you're referring to? Can you please throw me a link?
Even the Clearwire website that purports to show where they are doesn't show any coverage in Silicon Valley.
»www.clearwire.com/store/service_areas.php
What am I missing here? | |
| | | | | | Re: Get the whole Bay Area done '»developer.clear.com/innovation'
There are more detailed coverage in the PDFs on that site.
It's still "pre-commercial," so it's not listed on the main coverage site.
I wonder though, if Clear/Sprint 4G/Comcast HS2Go subscribers can operate on this partial network w/o becoming a Clear Developer? Like how subscribers were able to on Atlanta and Las Vegas before it launched. | |
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| | | said by xenophon:Wonder what is stopping them from doing the whole Bay Area? San Fran is due to come online sometime in 2010. | |
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Greer, SC | real-world speeds? What speeds are people seeing in the wild from WiMax? | |
| | | | Re: real-world speeds? said by IIIBradIII:What speeds are people seeing in the wild from WiMax? 2-8Mbps is what I've seen on dslreports archive. Some said they could get up to 11Mbps if very close to the tower. It depends on the usual factors... distance, obstructions, how much backhaul supplied, how many people sharing the site.
Clear is marketing it at 2-4Mbps avg with higher capability, but the devices technically are capable of 15Mbps+ in lab tests. Mimo antennas will help get better performance (up to backhaul max) in the future. | |
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| | The BackHual is there Yes the backhual is actually there. T1's are not deployed except in rare cases in order to provide holes in a coverage area. PtP fiber and PtP microwave are deployed in standard 100Mbps if not 1.2Gbps or higher. The issue is not backhaul but rather the RF from the tower to the modem or customer device....
Thanks for playing though! | |
| | | | Re: The BackHual is there Every single WiMAX site being deployed has at least 100Mbps backhaul? I could see that some might, but all of them?
Great news if true. | |
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| | Clearwire CEO hints at backing off WiMAX Clearwire CEO hints at backing off WiMAX
Posted by The Silicon Forest Blog September 15, 2009 13:24PM
Categories: WiMAX
Bill Morrow, Clearwire's CEO, tells Dow Jones he'd consider switching the company from WiMAX to competing wireless technology LTE:
"We're the only carrier that can do this," he said. "We'll do what's right for the business. Whether it's LTE, WiMax, future technology X, it doesn't matter to me."
Clearwire likes to point out that it's got an enviable spectrum position, which will be valuable whether or not WiMAX pans out. But this is the first time I've seen the company suggest it might use that spectrum for something other than WiMAX.
And from a business perspective, it's not clear to me what Clearwire has -- besides spectrum -- if it decides to abandon the WiMAX route in favor of its rivals' technology. Existing WiMAX modems wouldn't make the switch by themselves, and the cell operators have a substantial advantage in their installed customer base.
Hat tip: TechFlash | |
| | | | Re: Clearwire CEO hints at backing off WiMAX it does not state nor hint that the CEO is backing off WiMAX he states he WOULD consider switching if he needed to. | |
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| | spectrum in the wireless industry, spectrum is everything. it's the only thing any carrier has of long-term value, since they all have to replace their network gear every few years anyway.
if clearwire has lots more spectrum, eventually they'll be able to undercut the other carriers on price per data rate, price per monthly cap, etc. they can deliver more bits than the other carriers and so they can handle more customers, or can give the customers they do have a more premium experience.
if at&t's network stays overloaded from iphones, customers will eventually have no choice but defect to another network without those problems. even if clearwire is the carrier of last resort, when the other carriers' networks get overloaded from exponentially growing data usage, clearwire will pick up the churn and run with it. | |
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