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Clearwire, T-Mobile May Hook Up
T-Mobile CEO says they've been chatting with Clear, cable companies
by Karl Bode Thursday 18-Mar-2010 tags: business · T-Mobile US · wireless · Clearwire Wireless
The last year or so has seen an endless stream of rumors surrounding T-Mobile owner Deutsche Telekom, and their desire to improve T-Mobile's fourth-place fortunes in the U.S. wireless market. Rumors recently suggested that Deutsche Telekom wanted to buy Sprint and merge the company with T-Mobile, despite some headache-inducing technical and network integration differences. While that rumor was largely debunked, one lingering rumor is that Deutsche Telekom would like to partner with Clearwire -- perhaps funding Clear deployment in exchange for access to spectrum.

That rumor became only a little more solid this week. Speaking at an investor conference in Frankfurt, CEO of T-Mobile USA Robert Dotson stated that the company had been talking with both Clearwire and cable companies about future business opportunities. "We continue to look at joint venture opportunities for additional spectrum... there are a number of different options we look at, (and) have been talking with cable companies, with Clearwire," says Dotson.

While a lot has been made about how Verizon and AT&T could easily overpower Clear with their as-yet-built LTE wireless broadband service (in large part because of their lobbying influence), Clearwire is certainly busy making a lot of friends to help in the fight. As for T-Mobile wanting to get together with Sprint? "What you never want to do is take one company that is going through challenges and take another company going through challenges," says Dotson.

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Good idea.

I think that TMO can benefit from leasing some of Clear's spectrum either for their own LTE network, or by contracting Clear for 4g coverage.

Clear's made it known that they're willing to switch to LTE if the market demands it, and this kind of flexibility definitely would help TMO in the long run. Or at least until they can buy some more spectrum in the next wireless auction.

Although Clear's 2.5ghz spectrum has trouble penetrating buildings, the focus on cities aligns directly with T-Mobile's target audience - metropolitan dwellers and travelers. This would also allow TMO to focus on expanding their 3g coverage, providing a significantly faster-than-the-competition (hspa+) backup where WiMax isn't available.

I think one way or the other, TMO and Clear can benefit from a deal. It's good to see TMO looking forward and planning ahead instead of sitting on their asses like they have for so many years.
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Re: Good idea.

New home modem now testing in selected markets »[General] New clear home modems with ext antenna port in the wor
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Yes, currently 2.5ghz antenna tech has trouble with building penetration, but MIMO Beam-forming seems to solve problems for both high frequency signals and low. See »www.wimax.com/commentary/spotlig···mforming

With these new antenna technologies, Clear's signal problems will be put to bed.
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Re: Good idea.

said by Mike_:

Yes, currently 2.5ghz antenna tech has trouble with building penetration, but MIMO Beam-forming seems to solve problems for both high frequency signals and low. See »www.wimax.com/commentary/spotlig···mforming

With these new antenna technologies, Clear's signal problems will be put to bed.
Can you give me a guarantee that that will ever be commercialized? EVDV, HiperMAN, WiDEN, UMB, etc

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CLEAR and T-Mobile

I thought that Clearwire already had some sort of arrangement with Sprint??

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Re: CLEAR and T-Mobile

"Clear" is a joint venture between Sprint and Clearwire. T-Mobile up to this point isn't part of the party.
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Sprint owns at least 51% of Clearwire. (I've seen some reports of 56%) So technically it would be a Sprint/T-mobile hookup if it happens

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said by FrryMnstr:

Sprint owns at least 51% of Clearwire. (I've seen some reports of 56%) So technically it would be a Sprint/T-mobile hookup if it happens
...not exactly. It would be Sprint owning half of Clear, and adding T-Mobile to the list of companies that have provided $ to the Clear buildout in exchange for rights to sell access to it like Comcast, Time/Warner, etc. Google is a major investor as well, but they want ad access, not rights to be an ISP on Clear.
Comcast doesn't have anything in the mobile arena--their investment in Clear gives them future mobile video/phone/broadband device options they can sell as their branded "Comcast Mobile" service, same for Time Warner.
T-Mobile obviously already has a 2g network, they're in the process of still building out their 3g network. This is why they're looking at Clear. T-Mobile can in no way afford to build out their own 4g network when they're struggling financially and still behind the other three big carriers in 3-g coverage. If T-Mobile needs to save money but build a 4-g network, they might as well just fund the Clear network and save themselves a ton of money in the process.
Adding another major telecom partner would be a big deal for Clear--it would help keep it build-out going, and keep the prices for access lower. It would also mean that the Clear network would be that much better maintained and constructed, because another 40 million T-Mobile users would need access.
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I Have T-Mobie As My Cell Phone Provider

I have T-Mobile as my cell phone carrier & I hope they do buy ClearWire it'd me Broand for me finally!

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Eh... not really

Clear and T-Mobile have the same mentality when it comes to their coverage. Cover the hell out of the metropolitan areas, but completely neglect the rural areas. Both Clear and T-Mobile have major data coverage holes in my area, but they are slowly improving. So, I feel that this is great news since I live in a large metropolitan area, but I'm screwed if I ever venture to the more sparse areas.
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Re: I Have T-Mobie As My Cell Phone Provider

I get a very good signal here in my town T-Mobile is very popular where I live.

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said by Clever_Proxy:

Eh... not really

Clear and T-Mobile have the same mentality when it comes to their coverage. Cover the hell out of the metropolitan areas, but completely neglect the rural areas. Both Clear and T-Mobile have major data coverage holes in my area, but they are slowly improving. So, I feel that this is great news since I live in a large metropolitan area, but I'm screwed if I ever venture to the more sparse areas.
Urban areas is where the money is. It's a business decision that T-Mobile has always followed.
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Im in a rural area, and I went to an even more rural area several states away. I was told that I would get dropped, because it was a dead zone.
All I can say is, I'm convinced AT&T has more dropped calls than any other network, where it matters most: where I'm at.

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I use TMobile at 2.7Mb/s in Houston on a G1

Here is proof:



»www.speedtest.net/result/619611901.png



Clearwire has something.

Tested Srpint on a Hero, got 800Kb/s, ATT topped of at 400kb/s and our friends from Verizon at 1.2Mb/s.

There is no way I'm switching providers.

TMobile Rocks!!

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Re: I use TMobile at 2.7Mb/s in Houston on a G1

I'm still waiting for T-Mo to build out their backhaul... When/where I get a 3g signal it's faster than AT&T, however VZW usually clocks in at around 2 mbs (at least when I'm playing with my friends' Droids and Erises).

This is in the greater Hartford, CT area... but out in the ex-urbs I'm in zero coverage for voice and data. But I'll say this - T-Mo was upfront about their coverage when I ordered my G1 back in 2008.

There are many things I like about T-Mo, however aside from their early adopter status with Android I don't see them innovating enough or trying to compete on price enough to ever climb out of 4th place.
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