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That's pretty obvious from your bankroll and network footprint....
01:01PM Thursday May 14 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: competition · business · wireless · alternatives
"We're not a cellular company," insisted Clearwire CEO William Morrow on the company's earnings conference call yesterday. "We're really a broadband service provider that happens to deliver service wirelessly." In the midst of discussing how the company lost $71.1 million during the first quarter with higher churn (2.6%), Morrow seemed insistent on highlighting how "un-telco" the carrier is. "We are not aiming to unseat the incumbent carriers," proclaimed Morrow. "Our value proposition is a super-fast mobile Internet service at a great price." With only one (two if you count Baltimore XOHM) fully launched markets, AT&T and Verizon aren't particularly worried just yet.

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wifi4milez
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"We're Not Aiming To Unseat Telcos" YET

Its funny, because I guarantee that once this service is more widespread they will directly target the telco offerings. Right now they dont want to muddy the water, which is a good plan given that they only serve 2 markets right now. Watch the PR and advertising switch fairly quickly once a larger rollout is complete. I suspect by the end of the summer (when a number of other markets are projected to be online) we will be seeing ads comparing their service to local offerings.
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DaveNJ
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Re: "We're Not Aiming To Unseat Telcos" YET

Why not voip phones sold as well ? They could be a wireless company in minutes.

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Re: "We're Not Aiming To Unseat Telcos" YET

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

Why not voip phones sold as well ? They could be a wireless company in minutes.
They are already in development. Whether they are 3rd party provided, or purchased directly through Clearwire, remains to be seen. I have seen some dual mode wifi/wimax units, and they look pretty nice. I have also seen some actual cell phones with wimax as well, so there is a lot of cool new gear coming soon.
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Currently only available in Russia on the YOTA mobile WiMax network. You can make wireless VoIP calls just like a mobile phone. The reviews are currently satisfactory.

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Clearwire is 6MBPS?

So Clearwire is 6MBPS and has the licenses for NYC Correct?

And how much will service be priced at? I plan on cancelling my Cablemodem and will move all service to Wireless. I will get coverage on my notebook pc and my computer with one bill.

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So Clearwire is 6MBPS and has the licenses for NYC Correct?
They offer a number of different bandwidth options, but yes I believe 6Mbps is one of them. They supposedly have the NYC licenses, so sit tight and lets see what happens.
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Re: Clearwire is 6MBPS?

I don't think they can guarantee a bandwidth due to the nature of wireless. They currently market mobile WiMAX at 2-4Mbps "average" but in ideal conditions some get over 6Mbps.

Also depends on how much backhaul they provide to each site and number of users sharing the site.

Most current WiMAX devices are technically capable of 15-35Mbps, but only in a lab. LTE is claiming these kinds speeds too, but they are lab results, not real world.

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Yes. All devices on one bill.

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Head in sand if they deny AT&T & Verizon aren't competitors

If Clearwire really believes(and I don't think they really do) that AT&T & Verizon aren't their main competitors then they are in for a big shock when LTE is rolled out and delivers speeds as fast as or greater than they can deliver.

Their big advantage is the jump they have on LTE rollout. But it appears that they are squandering that advantage.
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Re: Head in sand if they deny AT&T & Verizon aren't competitors

If their deployments are the same as what they've done overseas for the past few years, it will be a very compelling product. If they cripple it, like what the wireless carriers have done with 3G (compared to elsewhere), then LTE will eat their lunch.
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Re: Head in sand if they deny AT&T & Verizon aren't competitors

I don't think Clearwire will cripple with caps to the degree of 3G. If they cap, it will be comparable to dsl/cable providers.

WiMAX will ultimately compete with ATT/VZW but their target is and should be a broadband provider. The cable companies are interested because they could provide repackaged/bundled WiMAX service in areas they don't have presence or augment in existing areas by providing wireless access to other areas.

The WiMAX model is more like WiFi in that it is controlled by IEEE, which the consumer products industry is already tied into. It's a little more open than the LTE model, controlled by the telcom industry. WiMAX has a better chance getting into a broader range of consumer electronics devices. If LTE manages to do the same, WiMAX may have a hard fall. If just don't see the entire consumer electronics allowing such control from the telcom industry.

I see a place for both to exist independently.
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Re: Head in sand if they deny AT&T & Verizon aren't competitors

I didn't buy a notebook yet because of evolving wireless standards and new models due out later this year, early next.

Clearwire is a top contender right now for my broadband needs. Will have to see what competition is like from others, but the involved firms with WiMax seemed to indicate that WiMax had the rollout advantage and had huge potential to spread really fast and be a low cost product.
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Re: Head in sand if they deny AT&T & Verizon aren't competitors

I wouldn't buy a notebook dedicated to a service. You can add any network format through USB or card slot. This won't tie you to any one carrier.

Intel needs to push WiMAX into notebooks a little harder though by only producing WiMAX/WiFi combo chipsets.

One advantage of WiMAX is that there are no contracts needed (though there are contract options).

Sprint sells and EVDO/WiMAX 3G/4G combo card but unfortunately it's $80/month, which doesn't make sense as you could only use one network at a time.

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Wireless is for mobility...

...of course. I have a residence. Unless pricing is dramatically lower for any wireless broadband offering, I'll stick with wired.

If I want a wireless plan, it's for mobility. The greater the coverage area, the greater my broadband-accessible mobility.

I'd like to see CW succeed simply to have more choices out there. But, frankly, if I were to pay for a mobile service now, it would have to be a telco like Sprint or VZ. At least with that service, I can be 'online' in a lot more locations that with CW. Speed only matters when access is equalized.

Fast CW only in a couple cities of slower Telco in a much greater area?
It's no contest. CW has to hugely expand their reach before becoming viable to consumers like me.
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