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Clearwire Working On New York, San Francisco
Hopes to hit 120 pops, 120 million users by end of 2010
by Karl Bode Monday 11-Jan-2010 tags: business · wireless · Clearwire
Clearwire is going to need to quadruple their footprint in 2010 in order to meet their goal of serving 120 POPs (points of presence) by the end of the year, notes Unstrung. With Hawaii and Seattle launches last December, Clearwire moved past sixty markets launched in 2009 -- though a significant number of those markets were smaller sub-markets. Clearwire's yet to launch in the mega markets of New York or San Francisco, but according to the company they "started working on New York a while ago." Clearwire hopes to reach (not necessarily serve) 120 million customers by the end of this year. They'll also have to work on cleaning some of the connection quality issues our users have complained about in launch markets.

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WiFiguru
To infinity... and beyond
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join:2005-06-21
Los Gatos, CA

Sweet!

Sweet! Finally, WiMAX to S.F. Hopefully the network doesn't get too overcrowded here, I want some awesome mobile broadband speeds =)
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

Re: Sweet!

said by WiFiguru:

Sweet! Finally, WiMAX to S.F. Hopefully the network doesn't get too overcrowded here, I want some awesome mobile broadband speeds =)
Oh yes they will be overcrowded.

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Re: Sweet!

I'd wait for the 'dust to settle' before purchasing/switching, unless its a better deal that current.

w0g
o.O

join:2001-08-30
Springfield, OR
Clear has over 100MHz WiMAX spectrum. They can handle the load.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

Re: Sweet!

said by w0g:

Clear has over 100MHz WiMAX spectrum. They can handle the load.
100/6=16 tv channels

lets assume 20 mbitps per 6 mhz channel.

16*20=320mbitps total, 320/3 (bandwidth reuse) = 106 mbitps per tower.

lets assume 20 users per tower, 5 mbitps. If there is any serious adoption of clearwire other than a niche, they will hit bandwidth problems.
DarnellP

join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV

Re: Sweet!

Right on cue, patcat...smh

For the record, Clearwire has up to 150 mhz of spectrum in some markets.

For comparison's sake, at&t and verizon each have ~20-25 mhz of 700 mhz spectrum that they plan to deploy LTE on. How soon do you figure it will take for them to hit bandwidth problems...?
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

Re: Sweet!

said by DarnellP:

Right on cue, patcat...smh

For the record, Clearwire has up to 150 mhz of spectrum in some markets.

For comparison's sake, at&t and verizon each have ~20-25 mhz of 700 mhz spectrum that they plan to deploy LTE on. How soon do you figure it will take for them to hit bandwidth problems...?
Thats why ATT and Verizon won't advertise a speed for their LTE broadband, or will do pay per byte billing where speed is irrelevant.
gridlocked

join:2009-08-21
Bristol, RI

Boston/Providence

This area was originally slated to roll out last year before the 'merger' and they were supposedly in the midst of turning up locations last year.

What happened to Baltimore/Washington DC? That was turned up and running but has never made it to the Clear map.
dplantz

join:2000-08-02
Roslindale, MA
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Re: Boston/Providence

Why is Boston not on that list? The network is partly built all ready and this is a high tech area. Lots of early adopters for high tech here. I am willing to use Clear, or LTE which ever serves me first. I like my Verizon Evdo, but I would like more bandwith and lower latency.

WeSRT4

join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL

DOA

Need I say more?
MRCUR

join:2007-03-09
Columbia, PA

Re: DOA

How so? Sure, everyone says WiMAX will be dead once AT&T and VZW get around to deploying LTE, but if Clear must they can move to LTE. WiMAX and LTE share the same basic hardware, the software is different though (and customer data cards of course).

bigdaddy

join:2009-11-18

Level 3 to Support Clearwire's National 4G WiMAX Network

Level 3 to Enable 4G Wireless Connectivity in Seven Major U.S. Markets

BROOMFIELD, Colo., December 01, 2009

Level 3 Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: LVLT) today announced an expanded relationship with Clearwire Communications, LLC, an operating subsidiary of Clearwire Corporation, to support their CLEAR™ 4G WiMax services. Level 3 will provide Clearwire with network transport services as part of their deployment of CLEAR™ WiMax services in major metropolitan markets across the United States.

"With a nationwide network footprint, Level 3 offers the network reach and scale to meet our business needs as we rollout next generation broadband services," said John Saw, chief technology officer for Clearwire. "As demand for the mobile Internet increases, we believe Level 3 offers the right combination of network infrastructure and service quality."

Under the terms of the agreement, Level 3 will deliver high-speed Internet connectivity to major U.S. cities, including Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia, Seattle, Washington DC, Houston and the Bay Area. Each 10 Gigabit Ethernet connection will carry data and Internet traffic for CLEAR™ customers.

"Level 3 delivers nationwide network connectivity to support Clearwire in delivering advanced network technology for mobile broadband," said Andrew Crouch, president of Wholesale Markets for Level 3. "As greater wireless market penetration and usage places more mobile voice, data, video and Internet traffic on networks, Level 3 is well positioned to meet the capacity demands of our wireless customers and support their ongoing business growth."

»www.level3.com/index.cfm?pageID=491&PR=825
jaymer
Professional Fixer

join:2003-05-26
Santa Clara, CA
Reviews:
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Amazing.

Just used Clear in Chicage (at MDW) and all around Vegas during CES. On the show floor (where there had to be hundreds, if not thousands of WiMAX users) I was pulling down around 5mbit/sec at my hotel (south of the strip) I was pulling down 12mbit/sec. Its a great product and cannot wait for them to overbuild the crap pre-WiMAX Expedience network in Rochester and roll out this.

NYC, Boston, and CT would also rock. Get building Clear, we want it.

-Jamie

stuk_in_glu

@clearwire-wmx.net

Re: Amazing. - but not here

Wow, I'm glad your Clear experience has been so good. Personally, I'm pleading with the rep to let me go back to Clearwire 3G ... It was much faster. With the Clearwire service, I could download at 180k (less than what they implied, but I found that the 180k was good enough for me). Now, with Clear - so called 4G, my download speed is 18k (yes kilo, not mega) !!! That approximates DSL lite (well, DSL lite is actually a bit faster than that). I live in the Cary, NC area, and am only a half mile from the Chatham Street tower. I get five bars of signal now (with the old, faster Clearwire service I got only 3 or 4 bars of signal strength). Now i have great strength - but really crappy download speed. An acquaintance told me that perhaps someone had set up an illegal base station in the neighborhood to reroute traffic through it, but I don't seem to get any response from tech support. I've really just about convinced myself to go to satellite internet. It's too bad. I had Clearwire for over three years and it was OK. The new Clear is not.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
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·Verizon FiOS

pricing and use are important

Provided it's priced competitively (read: cheaper and no / better caps or throttling value than cell carriers) with what's already on the market and is not full of real world use problems (AT&T's iphone data plan subscriber base as an example). As for use, how about a completely unwalled garden for devices.

Also, prepaid and/or month to month service options as well as cheap hardware will be very important. Technologies such as wimax have great potential but the so-called early adopter premium (such as that with dsl, & that little known service such as ricochet). Data phones that use VOIP can be a real game changer as well! These would give many of those cheap unlimited voice plans a run for their money-- especially the contract ones. Many will reserve judgment as to whether this will be a good thing for the wireless market.. but cellcos need something to compete against.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrOek4z32Vg
LineNoise

join:2006-06-25
Downers Grove, IL

Quality

This reminds me, it's not Quantity, but quality. Just because they say they can hit 120 million people doesn't mean they can do it well.
decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon Broadban..

heh

Deploying in saturated markets mean they need to offer competitive speeds and lower pricings.. The slipping in of caps later will only kick the stool under the already noosed up infrastructure..

Noone wants to attempt to appeal to markets that aren't rural, but just unserved or underserved.. They just simply look at the population and go with that... Good luck, but i'm thinking atm, your going to end up like cricket.. Good deals, but crappy coverage... Please please please prove me wrong!

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