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Comcast: 35% of CMTSs Now DOCSIS 3.0
Denver and San Franciso getting upgrades soon...
by Karl Bode 04:50PM Friday Feb 06 2009
Chris Bastian, senior director of network architecture for Comcast, told attendees of the Society of Cable Telecommunications Engineers Canadian Summit this week in Canada that the cable operator has 35 percent of its cable modem termination systems (CMTSs) upgraded for DOCSIS 3.0. According to Light Reading, Bastian told attendees that the cable giant is installing one hundred Docsis 3.0-capable CMTSs in its systems each month, and that Comcast is getting very close to deploying the faster DOCSIS 3.0 speeds (up to 50Mbps) in San Franciso and Denver. Bastain said the carrier was also "eager to deploy upstream channel bonding," and was "looking to get our hands on these devices as soon as we can."

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Jovi
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Blast

I'd be happy to just have blast here.

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said by Jovi:

I'd be happy to just have blast here.
I heard that. I've been Comcast (Ex-TWC since like late 2006)for about 3 years now and all I have is 8/2 still while others have had Blast! for like 3 years now. By the time Blast! gets to me, I'll have abandoned it for D3s 22/5 or 50/10 if I could afford that one.
iansltx

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Denver!?! You're kidding...they're actually going to compete here? No wait, there's really no competition between Qwest and Comcast; they could turn on Blast here and call it a day.

Not that I'm complaining; I'd love to save ffew bucks a month by going dowwn to 12/2. Or maybe I'll get 22/5. Probably 12/2 though; with a 250GB cap I wouldn't have any real use for the extra speed anyhow.

dadkins
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Re: Blast

said by iansltx:

Denver!?! You're kidding...they're actually going to compete here? No wait, there's really no competition between Qwest and Comcast; they could turn on Blast here and call it a day.

Not that I'm complaining; I'd love to save ffew bucks a month by going dowwn to 12/2. Or maybe I'll get 22/5. Probably 12/2 though; with a 250GB cap I wouldn't have any real use for the extra speed anyhow.
Me too...
12/2 would save me $10 per month but that 5mbps upload for $10 more is appealing.
Tough call.
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dvd536
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Re: Blast

said by dadkins:

said by iansltx:

Denver!?! You're kidding...they're actually going to compete here? No wait, there's really no competition between Qwest and Comcast; they could turn on Blast here and call it a day.

Not that I'm complaining; I'd love to save ffew bucks a month by going dowwn to 12/2. Or maybe I'll get 22/5. Probably 12/2 though; with a 250GB cap I wouldn't have any real use for the extra speed anyhow.
Me too...
12/2 would save me $10 per month but that 5mbps upload for $10 more is appealing.
Tough call.
is that a REAL 5mbps upload or just more powerboost trickery?
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jester121
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Re: Blast

5 is the baseline speed, which is then augmented by Powerboost.

jkj860
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said by iansltx:

Not that I'm complaining; I'd love to save ffew bucks a month by going dowwn to 12/2. Or maybe I'll get 22/5. Probably 12/2 though; with a 250GB cap I wouldn't have any real use for the extra speed anyhow.
Agreed. I will probably downgrade to the 12/2 when available. Currently at the 16/2 pkg (with promo price). Will be nice to have the option for upgrade when economic times get better.
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ancow

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They do have Blast in Denver now, I'm not sure why they haven't advertised though. Not sure if it's only in select areas. The only way I found out was through a friend that works there.
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I concur!

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said by Jovi:

I'd be happy to just have blast here.
I second that! We're 120 miles northwest of San Francisco, and you can bet those upgrades will probably skip Mendocino County (a former Adelphia market), even though we're on their "North Bay Network". The current tiers available here are the Performance-6000/1000 and the Performance Plus-8000/2000, both with Powerboost.

screavic4
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Move 1/4 West

I wish comcast would just move 1/4 to the west when they launch DOCSIS 3.0 oh wait they might be afraid I would actually use it

ninjatutle
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Zhomg Copper WTH

I thought fiber was the only way to obtain high speeds...
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Re: Zhomg Copper WTH

said by ninjatutle:

I thought fiber was the only way to obtain high speeds...
no, but it's the best way.

ninjatutle
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Re: Zhomg Copper WTH

Well, people here tend to think its fibre or the highway
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said by nasadude:

said by ninjatutle:

I thought fiber was the only way to obtain high speeds...
no, but it's the best way.
I have DOCSIS 3.0 with the 50/5 speeds and I have rock solid internet.. speeds are consistent, and my ping times are at about 30 or less. Glad my cable system is built largely on fiber with just a small amount of coax in the line.

Fiber/Hybrid.. doesn't matter so long as the network is run properly.

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Re: Zhomg Copper WTH

said by fiberguy:

said by nasadude:

said by ninjatutle:

I thought fiber was the only way to obtain high speeds...
no, but it's the best way.
Fiber/Hybrid.. doesn't matter so long as the network is run properly.
That last statement of yours FGuy is so true. You could be blessed with a pure fiber network provider (like Surewest) and still have terrible connectivity and/or speeds. Not that we do, mind you.
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Re: Zhomg Copper WTH

Actually, one of my family members lives in Roseville, CA and has Surewest 20/20 Fiber internet.. I PcAnywhere into his machine many times to help him with his computer. I also have a business in Sacramento on Comcast HSI running at about 20/2 right now.

So far, the Comcast connection is much more responsive and appears to operate much faster and closer to its speeds. The Surewest account takes forever to respond to the initial load of the computer.. and, for a pure 10/10 fiber connection, it just doesn't act like it.

Makes me wonder just how good Surewest is running their network. They reach their 10 down regularly, but their upload is typically about 5 meg, half of the speed.

I don't consider this "terrible" like you said.. but, I'm more shocked that it's not a much more rock solid connection.

One thing I will say about Surewest, over Comcast,... never an outage... yet.

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Re: Zhomg Copper WTH

Don't remember such a bad experience on the Elk Grove side of Surewest but would have to do a real benchmark.

maartena
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And Time Warner Cable:

0%.

GuyInLA

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Re: And Time Warner Cable:

0% plus caps =D

OSUGoose

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Re: And Time Warner Cable:

more like -25% Still got 1.0 and 1.1 gear
neufuse

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Re: And Time Warner Cable:

hehe... even Adelphia had DOCSIS 2.0

ztmike
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Still waiting..

Still waiting for the free upgrade to 12/2..

Cjaiceman
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Denver getting upgrades soon...

Soon... how soon? Like March soon, or August soon? I can't wait to get my hands on that 50/10 business... I've already made room in my monthly budget for it

My 16/2 business is already pretty crowded and too slow for me...
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Re: Denver getting upgrades soon...

said by Cjaiceman:

Soon... how soon? Like March soon, or August soon? I can't wait!!!
I'm in DENVER!

I constantly have the TOP speedtests scores in the 80*** zip code..

How much is the new speed-tier going to cost??

FrostyMelon

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Close

Come on Colorado Springs! OR...do we already tie into Denver?
jkeelsnc

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Caps

Whats the point in even subscribing to faster access if you have to worry about Caps? It defeats the purpose of having higher speeds to begin with.

jkj860
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Re: Caps

I have went from 3,4,6,8, and 16 download speeds over the last 4 years. I used 28 gigs of downlod last month (which is average for me). I like the faster speeds because browsing and downloads are much quicker to load. It is a much better service for me. I am on and off much quicker with the faster speeds. If I were downloading 24/7 the caps would be an issue but thats not me.
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Corydon
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Because everyone knows the only reason to have a broadband connection is to download pr0n to the computer in your mom's basement 24 x 7.

Some of us actually use the internet for other things. Personally, I can't wait for the new speeds to hit.
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Re: Caps

said by Corydon:

Because everyone knows the only reason to have a broadband connection is to download pr0n to the computer in your mom's basement 24 x 7.

Some of us actually use the internet for other things. Personally, I can't wait for the new speeds to hit.
yeah other things like watching Hulu or downloading NON-porn movies from amazon.com or Netflix. All that adds up QUICK.

jsz0
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I don't agree with that. If you have a faster connection does that automatically mean you're going to download more stuff? I don't think it does as a rule. Realistically even at slower speeds I don't think many people are maxing our their connections 24x7 desperately trying to squeeze out every bit of data they can get. For most users it's a demand issue, not a supply issue. The total amount of bandwidth is about the same -- they just want that data to finish faster.

I would say the people who are desperate for every bit are going to need to start considering data center co-location. The days of all-you-can-eat consumer Internet are over.

xpbx
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Re: Caps

youre joking, right? maybe on comcast the buffet is over. sucks to be you guys then.

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said by jkeelsnc:

Whats the point in even subscribing to faster access if you have to worry about Caps? It defeats the purpose of having higher speeds to begin with.
uh Hmmm I have the faster speeds and i don't come near the cap. Hell the best i ever done was 60+ in one month. Oh well i try
fiberguy
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Be glad you live in NC then.. wait... Boone, NC.. isn't that TWC area? ... the home of 5gb tested caps with overage charges? Or are you going to be the 40gb system of theirs...? Or, maybe it's former Bell South DSL?

Caps have always been around... they've just been defined.

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said by jkeelsnc:

Whats the point in even subscribing to faster access if you have to worry about Caps? It defeats the purpose of having higher speeds to begin with.
Even back when I had 3mbps - I tipped the usage scales at 30-35GB per month.
Today with 16mbps, I still stay within the 35GB per month threshold.
I just get my items faster.


Higher Speed - key word is speed.
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cypherstream
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I'm in the majority 65% without DOCSIS 3.0

Welcome to little ol' Berks County. Home of the Gosslin's, George Castanza's Grandparents, The black girl from "The Office" spent time at JV here (fictional)...

35% is still a minority. But we don't even have the 16/2 or 12/2.

jester121
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Re: I'm in the majority 65% without DOCSIS 3.0

So what? They've said they'll be 100% D3 by 2010. They tested it last summer/fall, started rolling out during the winter, and they're already at 35%.

Guess what, my price didn't go up either. Not too shabby.

cypherstream
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On second thought, my upstream power boost doubled from 2megs to 5 megs. Upstream is now running at a 5.12 msps rate (but still 16QAM). That nets a 20mbps upstream channel (double what it was before). Perhaps they did do something to the CMTS?!
MrBentor

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Seattle, WA

Where can you even get a DOCSIS 3.0 modem?

The question is... Where can you even get a DOCSIS 3.0 modem?

The people at Comcast said that they have updated their plant to DOCSIS 3.0 in my area... but don't have any DOCSIS 3.0 modems to and don't know when they will get any.

Furthermore there doesn't seem to be any DOCSIS 3.0 available for sale.

RARPSL

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Suffern, NY

Re: Where can you even get a DOCSIS 3.0 modem?

said by MrBentor:

The question is... Where can you even get a DOCSIS 3.0 modem?

The people at Comcast said that they have updated their plant to DOCSIS 3.0 in my area... but don't have any DOCSIS 3.0 modems to and don't know when they will get any.

Furthermore there doesn't seem to be any DOCSIS 3.0 available for sale.
That is a separate issue. What they say is that they are upgrading so that they can SUPPORT D3 not that they actually SUPPLY D3 in those 35% of their Headends. The D3 capable modems (like the Motorola 61xx series) while listed on the Motorola site are not yet available to the public for purchase.

88615298
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When they get to 100% will they dump the cap?

I mean if the cap is there because of congestion and Docsis 3.0 is supposed to alleviate that problem then there is no need for a cap right?
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The new Comcast e-mail is with out a doubt the worst example of IT planning in the US
It is also fraudlent!

1. The pictorial advertisement claims and shows that you can manage all Comcast mail accounts from one location.
- After spending 5 phone calls (hours) the new Comcast web mail requires you to log off and back into each accout. The tech services recommend using Hot Mail if you want what comast promised.
2. Comcast totally screwed up all my secondary mail box Address books. And Comcast Address Book Importer does not work.
- How can Comcast do this to paying customers? YOU JERKS!!!
3. Comcast "Smart Zone" is not smart at all.
- What a total failure! Your advertisements steal the cursor during login, Does Comcast ever test anyting!
4. I have an open ticket with Comcast on how to import my mailing list into secondary accounts.
- No response. Tech services told me just to install Outlook and not use Comcast web services!

I hae been a loyal Comcast Customer for 5 years with Cable, digital phone, and Internet. After this treatment... I am no longer loyal. There is no excuse!

Honestly, I am calling to review my options.
If comcast is this bad at a basic upgrade like e-mail, then how can I really depend on them? I depend on my service to stay employed. Comcast has no regard for its users.

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