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the bad news is it cost 4x as much
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Upper Marlboro, MD | Re: good news, bad news I would never go back to Comcrap. Six years of spotty internet service that never got fixed.
Constant patch work by repair guys that never totally solved the issue.
Since I switched to Verizon FIOS a few months ago, consistently fast speeds and no downtime. Couldn’t be happier. | |
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kudos:1 | This could get intresting in Fort Wayne, Indiana... one of the only cities in the Midwest to get FiOS service.
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Akron, OH | Re: good news, bad news Seriously, I'm curious to why Fort Wayne gets all these services? What is there I'm not aware of? Anyways it sucks being in Ohio when Fios is available in Indiana and Pennsylvania, it would be nice if they connected the dots. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use they need a bigger cap
at 50Mbit/sec you could use 250GB in one day
50/8(bit byte conversion)*60sec*60min*24hours/1024=527.34375
then *28(shortest month)/1024=14TB
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| | | | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use How much total you can download is irrelevant to the types of things you do on the internet. Having 50mbps doesn't mean you can now download 14TB, it just means you can get your content faster. .1% of customers are 'affected' by this cap, meaning people with 50mbps probably wont be downloading any more than they would with 6mbps. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use well thats just lame you pay more and get only responsiveness
how about this you can put gas in your car and pay taxes and you may only drive 200miles a month
oh well they'll learn someday how truely lame the CAPs are | |
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| | | | | | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use Your analogy makes no sense. Does not relate to this at all. Having a ferrari and an aveo is a better comparison. You can get to work a lot faster (neglecting speed limits) in the ferrari, but you still travel the same distance to and from work every day. Your MILAGE (gigabytes) remains the same, but speed changed.
And I'm sure they are really worried about these truly lame caps. They take off the heavy hitters of the subscriber base, make more money off them, and the overall crowd is actually unaffected. Yea, they are in a horrible position with them. Considering almost every other provider has caps, Comcast has been one of the most generous in terms of available bandwidth. | |
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kudos:3 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use your not getting it
the cap is like the gov or who ever saying you may not drive more than X and if you do than bam
(ya they have a better cap than most but not as good as no cap)
if you follow the sheep and are ok with it then it'll go down hill you just say well thats ok thats fine then one day you open your eyes and say what happened
ya theyre not hurting yet but as D3 getts spread more and more the people that use over 250 will grow and grow
your seeing how it could affect you now not what this means could happen down the road | |
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If I have 1 hour to use the internet a day, of course the speed dictates how much content I can pull. In that 1 hour, with more bandwidth, I'm pulling more content.
Over the course of the month, I will have far more bandwidth used in the same amount of computer usage. Pretty simple. I can download multiple movies in the time I download 1 currently.
Assuming that people will use the same amount of bandwidth regardless of their throughput is quite a stretch... I by no means teeter on the brink of the cap, but you have to be kidding that you don't think someone would not just queue up more downloads at once or get more in the time they use their computer.
Who cares about their lame caps? There will be a market for power users that will be tapped into regardless of it being comcast or not. Their futile attempts to limit how much I use netflix over their own on-demand streaming doesn't matter much if/when I switch to some other service. Of course this assumes that I can find something as fast for as cheap and as much. | |
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| | | |  dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | said by DarkLogix:well thats just lame you pay more and get only responsiveness how about this you can put gas in your car and pay taxes and you may only drive 200miles a month oh well they'll learn someday how truely lame the CAPs are That would be similar to metered billing.
Use as much as you want and pay accordingly.
Drive til you drop if you will...
I welcome something like this - my bill would probably be less than $10 per month! 
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| | | | | | | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use said by dadkins:I welcome something like this - my bill would probably be less than $10 per month! One can only hope that becomes the case. The majority of households probably use about the same as you (30GB). I would think Comcast would price accordingly so that they made the same or more off of customers if a change happened. Also a flat rate of $10 is probably going to be charged just for a connection, then on top of the the throughput used. We can dream, right? If this model ever came around I would surely cut back drastically on my downloading. | |
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From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use.
This is an average of nearly 15million customers.
Some more, but not all that many - apparently!
250GB - I can't even think of anything I would want to download that would get me to *HALF* of that in a month!
Yeah, probably $10 for the connection and then per-GB would be their scheme.
Still... not only would my connection quality piss off people, I would be able to irk 'em with my monthly bill! 
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| | | | | | | DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
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kudos:3 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use it would (based on whats happened) be more like this
Speed tire price + Usage Price + Peak hours usage
so
you have your $50 for 16/2 + your $10 per 10gig + anothe $0 per Peak 10GB + non-3play service $30penalty + 20 for CDV
with peak hours not know to you
so 30GB/month
50+30+30+30+20
$160 just for a little 30GB you say you use
you really want that
the for 50/10
150+30+30+30+20+(extra channels used penalty)50
so 310 | |
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kudos:18 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use said by DarkLogix:it would (based on whats happened) be more like this Speed tire price + Usage Price + Peak hours usage so you have your $50 for 16/2 + your $10 per 10gig + anothe $0 per Peak 10GB + non-3play service $30penalty + 20 for CDV with peak hours not know to you so 30GB/month 50+30+30+30+20 $160 just for a little 30GB you say you use you really want that the for 50/10 150+30+30+30+20+(extra channels used penalty)50 so 310 WTF?
Dude, that makes absolutely no sense. 
Apply that same math/logic to someone like yourself who says 250GB isn't enough...
Several thou per month?
Either way friend, my bill will be considerably lower than... yours! 
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kudos:3 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use the issue isn't that yours would be lower but that you are one more just going with it and will end up helping them hit you with an insane bill one day
maybe not this year but someday
its like cows to the slaughter
one cow sees another killed (booted/high monthly cost) and thinks oh that won't happen to me then the next and next untill that cow is the one getting it
you see others getting booted and think oh you don't use enough for that to happen to me
but one day it or something worse does
oh its just the top 1%
but the people that were the top 1% last year were already booted and now the ones that would have been only the top 10% are now the top 1%
and I pay $120 a month so I don't have a cap even though I know I won't hit it
as my Up+down is only 20GB a month (well I'll need to check to be sure (thats just my computer) so when they release a bandwidth meter for my service I'll see) | |
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Albany, CA | said by dadkins:From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use. This is an average of nearly 15million customers. Some more, but not all that many - apparently! I think the median will be a bit more telling than the mean for bandwidth usage. A few thousand folks who only check email and do light browsing can really push the mean down. On the flip side a few thousand folks DLing hundreds of gigs/mo can really inflate the mean as well. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use said by badtrip:said by dadkins:From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use. This is an average of nearly 15million customers. Some more, but not all that many - apparently! I think the median will be a bit more telling than the mean for bandwidth usage. A few thousand folks who only check email and do light browsing can really push the mean down. On the flip side a few thousand folks DLing hundreds of gigs/mo can really inflate the mean as well. I don't get why anyone would get HSI or any real fast speed for just browsing and e-mail checking. DSL is by far a better deal for these people because you can get a decent 1.5Mbps/384Kbps for light browsing for $15 a month and it would be perfect. Makes no sense to even pay Comcast $43+ for the same purpose
I am a heavy user. I do streaming videos, HD, online gaming, and etc. I really do have a need for Comcasts 6/1Mbps plan or higher unlike others.
Broadband is superior to dial up for browsing and e-mail but you do not need anything more than DSL for that. CHEAP DSL at that. | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use what about those people that live to far for DSL? and what happens to those customers after the price goes up after their first 6 months to a year? or they move and no longer can get DSL. BOOM their back to Comcast or another cable provider most likely.
But after you factor in the price of a landline phone or even the price of dryline DSL you are about the same price with Comcast especially after fees and taxes. | |
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | I don't get why ppl would get fast internet to check email and light browsing, but they do, and that's exactly why I think a median usage data point is called for. | |
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kudos:6 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use said by badtrip:I don't get why ppl would get fast internet to check email and light browsing, but they do, These are the same people who buy dual-core 3 GHz systems and a top-of-the-line graphics card to play Windows Solitaire.
and that's exactly why I think a median usage data point is called for. And then those numbers will be funny.
I'm all for capitalism, which we don't have here because every address is only served by 1 or 2 providers. To bring back capitalism, we ought to treat these "last-mile" delivery systems as streets. Own and maintain them publicly and let all the Comcasts, Time Warners, Coxs, Verizons hook up and offer competing connectivity, television, phone, or whatever subscription service over them.
If Target owned the city streets, none of the roads would go to Walmart. But since the public owns the streets, we have Target, Walmart, K-mart, shopping malls, centers, and etc.. | |
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kudos:6 | said by dadkins:From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use. They also said stuff like
"...only during periods of congestion..."
and "...we don't throttle any applications..."
and "...nobody has demonstrated otherwise..."
said by dadkins:250GB - I can't even think of anything I would want to download that would get me to *HALF* of that in a month! Me neither, that's the fun of it.... or it would have been.
If they were really as good as FIOS, they wouldn't need the caps or the 15-minute penalty boxes.
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Exactly why I'm still on Charters "slow" 5/512 plan. I get stuff fast enough, as my Charter connection is excellent. Can't see paying much over $40 a month for simply surfing the web. My life IS NOT in that much of a rush.
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kudos:18 | said by swhitney2003:How much total you can download is irrelevant to the types of things you do on the internet. Having 50mbps doesn't mean you can now download 14TB, it just means you can get your content faster. .1% of customers are 'affected' by this cap, meaning people with 50mbps probably wont be downloading any more than they would with 6mbps. Some people think they are buying a OC line for $50-$60(or $130) per month.
They forget all too quickly(or don't understand) what residential means. 
I have gone from 1.5mbps to 16mbps and still consume ~30GB per month... my downloads just finish WAY faster.
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kudos:5 | said by swhitney2003:How much total you can download is irrelevant to the types of things you do on the internet. Having 50mbps doesn't mean you can now download 14TB, it just means you can get your content faster. .1% of customers are 'affected' by this cap, meaning people with 50mbps probably wont be downloading any more than they would with 6mbps. But it is that .1% that is the most vocal and whining. They want the caps raised so that they can download 1000 hours a month of HD video(that they will never watch) or so that they can act as a P2P server to "show the man" how much they hate businesses.
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kudos:3 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use You forget about the ones that see what this means in the future
and see the anti-competitiveness
(my options are cable 16/2 or dsl 3/768) | |
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| | | | | dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use said by DarkLogix:You forget about the ones that see what this means in the future and see the anti-competitiveness (my options are cable 16/2 or dsl 3/768) Future, as later on in life.
Not here yet.
Wait for it.
We'll see what happens when that time comes.
BTW, my options(best case) is AT&T DSL @ 6/768 but I'm a wee bit farther away than ideal - or, Comcast at 16/2.
Hmmm... guess which one I have.
I want speed. Period.
Not limitless volume, I want my files here as fast as possible.
YMMV
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Dar al-Harb | said by swhitney2003:How much total you can download is irrelevant to the types of things you do on the internet. Having 50mbps doesn't mean you can now download 14TB, it just means you can get your content faster. .1% of customers are 'affected' by this cap, meaning people with 50mbps probably wont be downloading any more than they would with 6mbps. Sorry, but do you work for Comcast? As that's exactly what they say.
This is Comcast's plan to make more $$$ by charging people for going over the cap... offering faster speeds = people will be more likely to "break the rules". Cha-ching.
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Denver, CO | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use It's my understanding that Comcast doesn't charge you extra if you go over the cap. Rather, they warn you about your usage (and give you a bright line to get under...250 GB) and if you keep on going over the limit, they cut you off.
It really does seem to be a network management thing for them, not a money-making thing.
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Laguna Hills, CA | While the cap may only affect .1% of "normal" customers, the normal customers aren't going to be the ones ponying up $140/mo for 50Mb service. | |
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| Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use said by nanoflower:But for what most of the people using the Internet do (web browsing/email/occasional picture/video watching) they won't see much difference between even 6Mbit and 50Mbit, especially with Powerboost. The higher bitrates are really only useful for people that need to transfer lots of data (even if for only short periods of time) like watching a movie, or downloading some big files. That's not your typical user if you believe what Comcast and the other ISPs say. It's also beneficial to a family that has several users online concurrently or a person who has dozens of devices connected at the same time. | |
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Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | said by Joe12345678:what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use room for more uncompressed HD not there over compressed hd that they have now. Most people couldn't play uncompressed video even if it were available.
~247mbps? HDDs can't keep up!
Maybe you meant "Less Compressed" - sure! That would be nice.
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Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use just give up on cable TV its no good and never will be give more space to internet service | |
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4 edits | said by dadkins:said by Joe12345678:what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use room for more uncompressed HD not there over compressed hd that they have now. Most people couldn't play uncompressed video even if it were available. ~247mbps? HDDs can't keep up! Maybe you meant "Less Compressed" - sure! That would be nice. What kind of hard drives are you using? I can transfer data over my gigabit network at two to three times that speed going to a hard drive. 247mbs is no problem for a hard drive.
Even the hard drives I had in the early 2000's could easily handle that when I would transfer my HD shows to my storage PC back between 2001 to 2004 over my gigabit network. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Extreme 50 Yeah, seriously. I would get 20/20 symmetric FiOS if it was available in my area, or 22/5 Comcast cable. If Qwest has 12/896 DSL in my area, I'd get that. Charging more than $80/month for a residential internet connection is just insane. | |
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kudos:4 | said by Titus Pullo:Look at this way: you've got your haves and your have_a_lot_mores -- don't forget the havenots! this won't be going anywhere fios isn't.
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| Does It Matter? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like this won't help anyone but BitTorrent users. If I'm trying to download a movie from iTunes or three 100MB Illustrator files from a designer's server, I'm going to be severely limited by the speed on THEIR end anyway, making my 50Mbps connection 40Mbps of overkill. Right? | |
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Reisterstown, MD | Re: Does It Matter? Downloading my weekly TV shows from iTunes takes about 3 minutes on my 20/20 FIOS connections. I do not think that iTunes has a bandwidth problem during the times I download | |
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Sterling Heights, MI | Michigan Come to michigan, please!?!?!?!?! | |
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kudos:1 | Psst over here... Is Bloomington considered part of Chicago yet? If not then hurry up with it already!
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If your address does not say Chicago, IL 60xxx then you are not getting it right away with Chicago, although you will get it shortly after the Chicago market. Just have to do a little more waiting like you have been doing. | |
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Boynton Beach, FL | Responses so far... Let me see if I can summarize most of the responses so far... Comcast doubles the speed of your connection for the same price that you are paying today, and they still suck exactly the same? Really? | |
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Hammond, IN | Caps??? What about people who get ALL of their games, game demos and free mods from places like Steam and Direct2drive.
Game demos can reach as high as 2-3 GB these days.
while full games can be anywhere from 5-8 GB, and only growing larger the more advanced games get.
and there are so many large free mod games on steam to download, I don't think I can download them all.
Next up on Con-cast's list..."These game makers cant ride on our pipes for free, they are making money through our service and bandwidth" | |
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Hammond, IN | Re: Caps??? / Oh no, that's AT&T and google, i'm confused with. | |
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kudos:1 | Atlanta is still waiting... I'm still patiently waiting for this in Atlanta =\ | |
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kudos:1 | I think I have a faster upload, according to the atlanta comcast speedtest I have 7.043/4.373 Mbps | |
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I would rather convert over to the business tier at a slower speed and have no caps.
Here we are getting excited about 50 megs when China has had 100 meg to most areas for years - and much cheaper!
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Boynton Beach, FL | Re: NO reason to upgrade - if anything, good time to downgrade! said by Weatherman:Here we are getting excited about 50 megs when China has had 100 meg to most areas for years - and much cheaper! I don't suppose you have a link or reference for that claim? | |
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join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT | Geez Some of you will never be happy. If your using 250GB a month your doing something illegal lol Give me a break.
I am on my computer 14 hours a day and I stay under or at 30GB a month.
I would LOVE to see those speeds here in Utah. Any idea when that might happen?
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| DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | Re: Geez I'm not doing anything illigal I just see the caps as the start of something very bad for everyone
you know the saying
you give em an inch they take a mile
you stop complaining about caps and then they add more and more crap
next why not block vonage or limit data on ports used by vonage after all we don't need all those people not paying more
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|  NOVA_GuyObamaCare Kills AmericansPremium
join:2002-03-05 | I can see some legitimate ways of potentially using more than 250GB. Now, I haven't done the math on the following, but I'd suspect that consumption habits like the following could create a problem:
(Maybe someone else can plug in some typical usage numbers and do the math, I'd love to see the results!)
- I have a Netflix account. I stream movies and old TV episodes from DVD to myself most weekday nights for entertainment. I also stream stuff like this throughout the weekend.
- I have done away with my Verizon POTS line and have VoIP service now (thanks to recommendations and feedback from the forms here). Typical phone usage is probably 30 minutes - 60 minutes per day, and more on the weekends.
- I have an MSDN account and use it regularly to download ISOs of OSes, servers, apps, etc.
- I stream music from online stations into the house when I'm away from home on the weekdays. It at least gives my pet something to listen to while I'm out.
- Downloading patches/updates from Microsoft for several OSes on several boxes at my home.
- Your typical casual web surfing, forum visiting, email downloading, television guide info downloading, etc., etc.
I'm sure I could think of more stuff too, given additional time. I wonder how close to 250GB this all could potentially be?
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| | | said by MSauk:Some of you will never be happy. If your using 250GB a month your doing something illegal lol Give me a break. I am on my computer 14 hours a day and I stay under or at 30GB a month. I would LOVE to see those speeds here in Utah. Any idea when that might happen? I wish you actually had a clue before you posted.
I have Comcast as well as DSL.
I upload/ download the following, all legal:
Video projects. Usually 2 or 3 times a week or 20 - 30 gigs each time. Average 300 GIG a month. And BEFORE you spew "get a business account", this is a hobby, not my job.
Video of the kids for the grandparents, various sizes a few times a month: 50 gig or so.
Plus additional misc: 100 gig
So, there goes your 250 out the window. | |
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| | MSaukMSaukPremium
join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT | Re: Geez well get a business line than. 250GB is plenty enough for us individuals who don't run our business from home.
Obviously your hobby has turned into a business if your using that much bandwidth. | |
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| Whats the Rub As for higher speed overseas, how much of the growth is due to taxpayer subsidies? I feel the taxpayer are not in the mood to subsidize auto executives and download junkies.
I am on the performance plus, (free upgrade for thee months) I problem downgrade when the new speed kick in on the 22th. (ps I need to cal Comcast for digital voice) | |
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join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | Good Upload Speeds It's nice to finally see an option for faster uploads. With a couple of Slingbox Pro-HD's you really need more than 2Mbps. 5Mbps should suffice, but only if the speeds are very stable, and then there is the issue with the caps if you try and stream too often.
My $95 FiOS service is very nice for uploading high quality video. I assume that Comcast will have to lower prices for the 50/10 service where FiOS is available if they want to compete. So, I would not expect the Comcast "Extreme 50" tier to cost $140 in all regions.
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join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
kudos:1 | Chicagoland Let's hope everything goes to plan so we can get ours in March | |
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join:2006-08-15
Mcmillan, MI | the caps i think ISP's are bracing for the day that *most* americans get their HD TV and movies through an internet connection.
and to have several HD feeds running simultaneously (without loss of quality), will take a lot of bandwidth that has to be delivered NOW! as different household members are watching different prime time shows, movies, etc.
that's why we will need 20, 30 and 50 Mbps connections. not for continuous downloading but for prime time when everyone wants to watch something NOW!
imo, they want us trained on paying to exceed caps and/or metered billing. that is the future, the way i see it.
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| one leap for docsis... One huge leap for docsis 3.0 {vendors, cmts resellers}
Two giant steps backwards:
Low data caps and high price for subscriber kind!
What this means is consumers will choose the competitor in the area.. which will invariably be Verizon & AT&T. Comcast's huge investment in docsis 3 will be for nothing if they can't get consumers to subscribe. $140 is quite alot of money for service that seems crippled, not symmetric, & according to some reports still applies to the 250gb data cap / month (someone please correct if that's not the case). The whole point of having docsis 3 was to bond upstream as well as downstream channels.. while that's probably being done on the downstream to get the extra 8mbits needed... the upstream is well within specifications of docsis 1.1 let alone 3.0 (10mbit).
*** Comcast will eventually have to do away with the data cap, it's just a matter of time & mounting subscriber lo$$ | |
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| AVonGaussPremium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | Re: one leap for docsis... said by tmc8080:What this means is consumers will choose the competitor in the area.. which will invariably be Verizon & AT&T. Comcast's huge investment in docsis 3 will be for nothing if they can't get consumers to subscribe. Have you read about AT&T's new caps that they are now testing in two markets and plan to roll out nationally? | |
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| Re: one leap for docsis... said by AVonGauss:said by tmc8080:What this means is consumers will choose the competitor in the area.. which will invariably be Verizon & AT&T. Comcast's huge investment in docsis 3 will be for nothing if they can't get consumers to subscribe. Have you read about AT&T's new caps that they are now testing in two markets and plan to roll out nationally? You can't look at the Texas, Ohio and California markets as test cases for what may or may not be tolerated in a market such as Florida, New York, Pennsylvania, etc. Comcast is largely in captive markets. If AT&T follows in Comcasts' shoes by putting total bandwidth data caps (in the same markets), there will be consequences in the form of anti-trust and subscriber class action lawsuits. Over the past copule of years, there were regulatory squabbles between the fcc/congress and both Comcast & AT&T over these policies.
If their overlapping footprint becomes less competitive with service that has ONLY data capped internet, there will be negative consequences for both companies. Over the long term, it's not in their best interest. This is one of the few industries in which consumers will draw a line in the sand when they are not treated fairly. | |
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|  jslikThat just happenedPremium
join:2006-03-17 | Re: Seattle, Portland, Spokane, and Eugene -- not so fast I second that...I was told on or about December 18th for the Seattle area... | |
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| | | | Re: Seattle, Portland, Spokane, and Eugene -- not so fast said by jslik:I second that...I was told on or about December 18th for the Seattle area... Comcast has been rolling an advertising campaign in the Portland area offering special deals until the 19th; my assumption is that it's closely related to when the switch gets flipped.
At least where I am around Portland, we had a 6 hour outage early Monday morning that was followed by my modem being allocated to a new frequency and IP address. Clearly they just replaced some head-end gear (at the local node or what, I'm not sure) so it doesn't seem that they're quite done. | |
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|  kataanRIP my love.Premium
join:2003-04-22
Greenacres, WA
1 edit | You can add Spokane to the list. They have not done anything here yet, nor have I heard anything. | |
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