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Comcast: 80% DOCSIS 3.0 Coverage By Year's End
Company speeds up network upgrade predictions...
by Karl Bode 04:10PM Thursday Aug 06 2009
As we've noted countless times, Comcast had promised to have 65% of their network upgraded to DOCSIS 3.0 technology by the end of this year, and 100% of their network upgraded by the end of 2010. In addition to doubling the speeds on existing tiers, the upgrades deliver new $62.95 22Mbps/5Mbps and $99 "Extreme 50" 50Mbps/10Mbps tiers, both of which require a new DOCSIS 3.0 modem. Comcast now tells us that the deployment is going so well, they should be able to accomplish considerably more installs than originally predicted.

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"We have raised our goal to roll out DOCSIS 3.0 to nearly 80% of our national footprint before the end of this year," Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas tells us. "That would mean passing about 40 million homes and businesses with the new wideband offerings Extreme 50 and Ultra 22, in addition to doubling speeds for existing Premier customers for no additional cost," he notes.

Comcast already provides the service to the Twin Cities, the Boston Metropolitan region and parts of Southern New Hampshire, parts of Hartford, the City of Philadelphia as well as the greater metropolitan area, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, parts of New Jersey, Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago, Ft. Wayne, Chattanooga, Portland, Eugene, Seattle and Spokane. The next market should be announced within weeks, Comcast tells us.

"I think part of raising the estimate is just we are getting it implemented and we are a little further along the line and continue to be big believers in it," Comcast COO Stephen Burke said this morning on a conference call with analysts. "I think everybody in the industry eventually is going to put DOCSIS 3.0 pretty much everywhere and it is just a question of how fast you go."

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brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

yahoo

$100 they mention Miami and Homestead.
kenshinth

join:2009-08-06
Miami, FL

Re: yahoo

Been waiting for it
rkba_net

join:2006-07-13

Re: Indianapolis

Does anyone know where Indianapolis stands as far as upgrades go?

BigBearsFan

join:2009-08-01
Galesburg, IL

Docsis 3.0

If they would only work as fast on getting everyone up to 100 HD channels
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast

Re: Docsis 3.0

Three HD channels take up the same spectrum as one DOCSIS channel, so basically you're looking at 10 channels vs. DOCSIS 3.0. Personally I'd go with DOCSIS 3 for now, though I'm guessing Comcast has 860MHz plant everywhere so there's enough space for everything and the kirchen sink...as long as you don't compare to FiOS.

NathanO

join:2008-08-21
Moorestown, NJ

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Double Speed for everyone else?

When does everyone else get double the speed
These guys get it:
6/1=>12/2 (should have done 10/1.5) -$42.95 => $30
8/2=>16/2 (should do 15/2.5) -$52.95? => $40

What about:
16/2 (should have done 15/2.5)?=>35/5 -$52.95 => $40
22/5? (should have done 25/5)=>50/10 -$62.95 => $50
50/10?=> 100/25 ($99.95) => $75

The 50/10 tier is overpriced anyway... it should be $72.95 to follow the rest of their (already overpriced). I Think they would get more HSI subscribers if they dropped the price by $12.95 on each tier, and price them as above

Rob
In Deo speramus.
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Comcast

Re: Double Speed for everyone else?

said by NathanO:

When does everyone else get double the speed
These guys get it:
6/1=>12/2 (should have done 10/1.5) -$42.95 => $30
8/2=>16/2 (should do 15/2.5) -$52.95? => $40

What about:
16/2 (should have done 15/2.5)?=>35/5 -$52.95 => $40
22/5? (should have done 25/5)=>50/10 -$62.95 => $50
50/10?=> 100/25 ($99.95) => $75

The 50/10 tier is overpriced anyway... it should be $72.95 to follow the rest of their (already overpriced). I Think they would get more HSI subscribers if they dropped the price by $12.95 on each tier, and price them as above
IMO, you'll never see a decrease in the standard price of Internet. What you will see, as we are already seeing, is in the "free" increase in speed.
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doublea

join:2007-06-04
Petaluma, CA

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said by NathanO:

When does everyone else get double the speed
These guys get it:
6/1=>12/2 (should have done 10/1.5) -$42.95 => $30
8/2=>16/2 (should do 15/2.5) -$52.95? => $40

What about:
16/2 (should have done 15/2.5)?=>35/5 -$52.95 => $40
22/5? (should have done 25/5)=>50/10 -$62.95 => $50
50/10?=> 100/25 ($99.95) => $75

The 50/10 tier is overpriced anyway... it should be $72.95 to follow the rest of their (already overpriced). I Think they would get more HSI subscribers if they dropped the price by $12.95 on each tier, and price them as above
HAHA, I whish, but with att uverse being

1.5/1(.385dsl) $25
3/1(.512dsl) $30
6/1(.756dsl) $35
12/1.5 $55
18/1.5 $65

Although AT&T has all the right to charge more because they don't cap, which is good for me.

If anything dsl/vdsl has gone up in price over the last 3 years.... the 3/1 used to be $25 in my area for as long as I could remember.

Comcrap has zero encouragement to drop prices.

banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
Premium
join:2001-08-18
Frisco, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

Naples plz.

I believe I hit the limits of my 6 Mbps connection the other day trying to pull down a Netflix HD stream. Would like it to transform magically into 12 Mbps.
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Duramax08
To The Moon
Premium
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX

Re: Naples plz.

my 49kbps connection the otherday has been disconnecting alot. Would like it to transform magically into broadband.

banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
Premium
join:2001-08-18
Frisco, TX

Re: Naples plz.

LOL ouch. I don't blame you.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1
said by Duramax08:

my 49kbps connection the otherday has been disconnecting alot. Would like it to transform magically into broadband.
Shotgun modem.

papapap

@verizon.net

speed

Comcastic pricing $62.95 22Mbps/5Mbps,$10 more than Verizon
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: speed

VZ speeds for the rest of the country without FiOS? 7.0Mbps. you can't compare apples to oranges.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2

Re: speed

Of course you can, when in your market apples are competing against oranges. Comcast doesn't have special FiOS-area tiers like Cox does, so it's perfectly acceptable to pit FiOS against Comcast pricing-wise as long as both are in your region.
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: speed

you can't compare when you factor in a hand full of cities verse Comcast upgrading ALL of their footprint. There are HUGE amounts of customers that still belong to VZ that will NEVER EVER see FiOS and will be stuck on DSL forever or until VZ upgrades them in the next 15-20years well after cable would have already upgraded their entire footprints to FTTH to more than out due and pass VZ and ATT.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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Re: speed

My logic still stands. In areas where Comcast is competing with FiOS their product and pricing are inferior.

Also, Qwest's new VDSL2 packages are comparable to Comcast price-wise, and upload speeds are 5+ Mbps across the board. Again, Qwest isn't deploying these everywhere but Comcast isn't dreaming up special tiers to compete with Qwest in areas that are served.

That's only for places where there's muni fiber...
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1
said by hottboiinnc:

VZ speeds for the rest of the country without FiOS? 7.0Mbps. you can't compare apples to oranges.
Not unless you live inside the CO or have a RT within sniper scope distance of your house.
Weatherman

join:2004-12-04
Bel Air, MD

Without higher caps, what good is it?

I completely fail to see the value in going to a higher speed tier when they all have the same cap. I actually downgraded - saving $10 a month since the upload speeds are the same - as are the caps.

Get rid or tier the caps - or it is smoke and mirrors. I still think it is very interesting how the Xbox 360 streaming HD package from Netflix came out within a month of when Comcast started to officially enforce the caps. Can anyone say "Anti-Trust"?
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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Re: Without higher caps, what good is it?

I don't think Comcast *enforces* caps per se, except in situations where you're on a crowded node. They also have the highest "soft cap" in the industry at this point.

Now I'm not saying I like 250GB as a cap; I'm pretty sure it puts online backup out of reach for me. However if you really, really want an uncapped connection Comcast's biz class options are reasonably priced, something that can't be said of most other cable companies' business cable internet pricing schemes.
iansltx

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Austin, TX
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My Guesses

Denver will be the next big market to go D3. Houston will probably be somewhere in the mix this year as well. And maybe the Florida markets.

It's rare to see a company actually pushing UP their estimates of network coverage by a given date. i'm looking forward to testing out 22/5 at least for a little while, though 50/10 is overkill price-wise and I'd already be getting that with PowerBoost more than likely.

Though after a few months I'll probably settle into the 12/2 tier while I wait for Qwest to bring VDSL2 to my area. Which should take awhile :/

SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA

Meanwhile, in the 4th largest market...

Houston will no doubt be in the 20% left to wither.
AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL

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Re: Meanwhile, in the 4th largest market...

[Reworked]
Houston will no doubt be in the 20% left to wither to complete in 2010.
[/Reworked]

Unless it's changed, they've committed to completing all current markets by end of 2010.
caco
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK

Some areas in Florida have 3.0

Jacksonville,FL is one of them.
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mlcarson

join:2001-09-20
Los Alamos, NM

Re: Some areas in Florida have 3.0

Betting that Las Cruces, NM is sold by 2010 so they don't have to do any upgrades yet still claim they met their deadline. The smaller markets with no competition get screwed.

aguyinaroom

@iauq.com

Re: Some areas in Florida have 3.0

Qwest has started deploying ADSL2+ and VDSL2 in Las Cruces so it might be more competitive than you think. They just started deploying around the university area and around mesilla valley mall. From what I have seen if you live near Roadrunner Pkwy it's 40M paradise. Lots more activity to come in the following months.


duder

@rr.com

wow

caps caps caps caps caps caps
what more to say
sammydad1

join:2002-06-28
Lake Worth, FL

SB6120 Up and running

Got my SB6120 last night...Called Comcast and had it up and running in about 30 minutes..maybe less....

Seems very stable...I have it giga-bit cabled to my DLink DIR-655 router so I get the Blue LED link instead of Orange...OOO AHHHH.....

Hope they rollout the West Palm Beach area...soon enuff....

SD1
fndelta

join:2008-04-28
Grosse Pointe, MI

Michgan .... 20% thats us

One can only hope it is michigan. I seriously doubt it though......

jblues

join:2001-04-28
Allen Park, MI

Re: Michgan .... 20% thats us

I was told 2010, but maybe that has changed with this announcement!

joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

Encouraging news for Comcast users

At least there's a roadmap for higher speeds!

Lower pricing will come with competition. I doubt they could sell 50/10 in my area for $100 when Paxio sells 100/100 for $95.

jblues

join:2001-04-28
Allen Park, MI

MY SB6120 is up as well...Michigan is ready

If we do get Docsis 3 soon, I am ready now. I have a SB6120 that Comcast got working within 30 minutes today. I also have a WRT610N from Linksys with a gigabit connection that went in today as well. Only amber lights for now, except the link light....cmon Comcast!
LowRider

join:2006-06-23
Douglasville, GA

There pulling an AT&T

They only passing homes and not offering. So what's the point if your not going to offer it?? AT&T and comcast have got to be stupid.

DJMASACRE

join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON

good

hey man ..

atleast these guys are trying to follow through on their promises and looking like they are trying to be sincere about it.

now Bell and Canada with the ISP bullshit being similar to what Comcast was trying to pull, except that they are loving this game just trying t get away with it. I guess only hope is that our "FCC " ( CRTC ) " will do the right thing aswell, and tell these ISPS ...

SMARTEN THE FUCK ! UP !

. Thank you

cameronsfx

join:2009-01-08
Panama City, FL

1 recommendation

Hey, Karl, can you be more UNFACTUAL?

Exactly how do you think people will be able to get DOCSIS 3.0 without professional installs and new modems since the wiring has to support it and so does the modem?

Also, since AT&T DSL 6.0 and Uverse requires new modems, why not rant about that?

Perhaps it would Bode well for you to do some research before bashing something making you look like a idiot?

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chas3

join:2004-12-03
Dallastown, PA

Economy Tier

Any idea if the $24.95 economy tier speed of 1M/384K will see an increase in speed?

Anon69

@comcast.net

Uhhh Right....

They will not be able to provide DOCSIS 3.0 to 100% of their footprint unless 100% of their footprint has broadband.

There are still many areas served by Comcast that only have analog systems, and Comcast refuses to upgrade them to digital.
jollysailor

join:2001-10-21
Port Saint Lucie, FL

caps and cash

90 a month avoids the caps for 18/2 in psl area (BIZ PACK) they say the doxis 3 is all ready to go here lines are done but I have not seen it yet, there big problem is they dont let there left hand know what there right hand is doing, so there men in the field are blind and suffer for it !