  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Saturation There simply aren't many customers left who will buy Comcast's products at the price offered.
This should surprise no one. -- Blagojevich / Madoff 2012! | |
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| Re: Saturation Yeah, I tend to agree with that.
I think pretty soon Comcast is going to have to offer some discounts on their "BMW".
Besides, I have a friend who bought a new BMW a few years ago. I had always heard they were buggy, but WOW, what a piece of crap. Makes the electrical system of a '75 Plymouth look like the wiring on a nuclear submarine. Damn thing always needs some sort of repair. -- Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power
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join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX | Re: Saturation ya BMW is more about the name that about really being good
sure they're good right off the lot but I've heard bad things about then for a long time
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| As long as they can keep reducing costs and increasing margins, they don't need new customers. The wind is still at their back, and some products, like digital voice (which likely has near 50% gross margins), has yet to saturate.
Comcast really dosn't have much to worry about short-mid term. The telco's are the most vulnerable, between the landline losses, inferior last mile woes forcing them to compete on price, and threats to their wireless division (network crushing iphones, android phones, and other 'multimedia' smartphones, and crap like google voice). | |
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| Re: Tale of the tape on 1 slide said by Karl Bode :If I remember correctly they're also still facing that 30% FCC growth cap, though I don't remember if they successfully challenged that legally or not... Comcast successfully challenged it in 2001, but the FCC re-imposed it with a new, but still bogus arguments.
Comcast has been challenging it again. Comcast was supported by fellow cable companies (and potential M&A). Interestingly, Verizon supported Comcast in the case.
'»www.broadcastingcable.com/articl···eals.php'
Arguments at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals were in late April, and the judges sounded like they will strike it down again.
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| On video side I would agree with you but penetration rates on cdv and chsi still leave a lot of room for gaining additional RGUs. My only concern is that if economy keeps up at current pace it will be extremely hard to find news customers who can afford to pay for services. Another concern is cdv and folks ditching home phone service entirely due to economy and going cell phone only and we have seen this happening already with telco landline losses. IMO home phone service is on a speeding path to be a free perk provided on top of regular internet service. -- »www.seabee.navy.mil | |
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| Re: Tale of the tape on 1 slide I think you have to keep a close eye on the Clearwire rollout wrt home phone customers.
Once they get a critical mass there, I think it's only a matter of time before they offer a wireless device that (a) allows tethering and (b) offers their "home phone" service pretty much anywhere (which can run off the their VoIP/DECT6.0 service in the home and do VoIP over Clearwire everywhere else).
They're already working on integrating their services onto the home phone platform. It wouldn't be hard to transfer that experience to wireless once that is ready. -- "Religion allows people who would otherwise be arguing about whether the Death Star could beat a Borg Cube to have a place of respect within society." | |
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| You're right there aren't many people that don't have broadband that actually have access to it. The main reason for these people I suspect was price. These people aren't enticed by speed. It doesn't matter if the 16 mbs tier is the same price 12 Mbps was last year. These people have a certain price point in their heads and they aren't going to pay a penny more than that. Some people just won't pay more than say $20-$25 a month for internet and forcing people to have cable less they be charged an extra $10-$15 a month to get internet doesn't help either. | |
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| said by pnh102 :There simply aren't many customers left who will buy Comcast's products at the price offered. This should surprise no one. Unless there is no other choice for broadband, like where I live. The closest DSL is 8 miles away in Ukiah. -- You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. | |
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| Re: Saturation said by RR Conductor :Unless there is no other choice for broadband, like where I live. The closest DSL is 8 miles away in Ukiah. Monopoly status is really a minor factor. If someone doesn't want broadband badly enough to pay $42.95 (or whatever Comcast charges) for it, said someone will simply do without it. -- Blagojevich / Madoff 2012! | |
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| Re: Saturation said by pnh102 :said by RR Conductor :Unless there is no other choice for broadband, like where I live. The closest DSL is 8 miles away in Ukiah. Monopoly status is really a minor factor. If someone doesn't want broadband badly enough to pay $42.95 (or whatever Comcast charges) for it, said someone will simply do without it. I was just saying areas like mine don't have a choice for broadband,. -- You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. | |
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join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX 1 edit | Ferrari "BMW," while referring to DSL technology as a "Hyundai" -- and insisting BMW doesn't lower prices to suit "inferior" competition. It's not clear which metaphor represents FTTH in that equation.
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join:2006-12-12 Arnold, MD | Re: Ferrari If cable is the BMW of broadband, then I'd liken FTTH to the Lexus of broadband. They're similar in offerings (even if not in capability), but one is much more reliable than the other. | |
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join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX | Re: Ferrari ya but FTTH has more speed available (offered and that can be offered)
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| Re: Ferrari said by DarkLogix :ya but FTTH has more speed available (offered and that can be offered) Lexus is just a high end toyota "They're similar in offerings (even if not in capability)"
I was focusing only on the reliablity gap, which is large IMO. I don't think you can use Ferrari or other supercar manufacturers to get that point across. I'm aware of FIOS capabilities being greater, but to date, Verizon sits on a large portion of that capability, selling relatively meager speeds (for fiber) at higher prices than cable as if it might strain their extremely large pipe. | |
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join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX | Re: Ferrari the way I see it is FiOS is currently like a Ferrari stuck in a school zone
for reliability just go with an old toyota truck (if you watch Top Gear you'll know what I mean) | |
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| Comcrap needs to understand Does Comcrap not understand that people just abuse them for their cheap promo offers....hell the only reason why I have comcast internet is because I get 6 months for $20 with 12Mbps down. When my 6 months is up then it is time to re-abuse the promo otherwise I would never use Comcrap. | |
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| Re: Comcrap needs to understand I have to agree with this. I flip back and forth between cable companies for that very reason. To be fair though, CC has always given me attractive pricing when my promotions finsh and I call them up.
No one in my area offers anything comparable to the 50/10 D3 package, which may make me stay longer this go-around. | |
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join:2004-11-24 123456 | Re: Comcrap needs to understand Between Verizon because I'm close enough to the CO I can get 7.1mbps/768k-1mbps up and just switch back and forth. I can't wait to they finish up with FIOS so I can lock in! | |
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join:2004-11-24 123456 | Re: Comcrap needs to understand Rub it in more lucky :P. No, Seriously, congrats & enjoy | |
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join:2005-09-28 00000 | Karl and Comcast must have made up :) Another story that does not lead with an unrelated negative comment about Comcast. Nice. | |
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join:2008-05-11 Beaverton, OR | Re: Karl and Comcast must have made up :) Yeah this one is only suggestively negative. | |
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join:2002-03-23 Eagleville, PA | Re: Karl and Comcast must have made up :) Seriously, 65,000 broadband customers make up a very decently sized provider. Comcast added "just" that many in a typically slow quarter. I'd take any growth, and this much in particular, in any quarter. | |
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1 edit | Re: Karl and Comcast must have made up :) Thats leading with the most negative part of threir earnigs report. take frontiers earnigs report and he leads with there net dsl additions and not the fact that earnings were cut to like 60 percent of last quarter. nope he is still comcast negative. Its almost funny. | |
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join:2005-10-17 Carteret, NJ | I switched You can add me as a new customer, I switched from Verizon phone & dsl to Comcast Blast & CDV. Save almost 20 bucks a month and 3 times faster then DSL. | |
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