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Comcast Completes DOCSIS 3.0 Upgrades In California
80% of the company's footprint now sees 50 Mbps...
by Karl Bode Monday 12-Apr-2010 tags: coverage · business · bandwidth · cable · Comcast
Comcast dropped us a line this morning to note that with the rollout today of faster DOCSIS 3.0 speeds in Sacramento, the company has completed their deployment of the technology in California. Non DOCSIS 3.0 market customers currently have the choice of three tiers: 6/1 Mbps, 8/2 Mbps, and 16/2 Mbps. DOCSIS 3.0 upgraded markets have their choice of 12/2 Mbps, 16/2 Mbps, 22/5 Mbps, or 50/10 Mbps (with a 100 Mbps tier forthcoming for many). According to Comcast, all 2.3 million California residents should be able to get the faster speeds -- and roughly 80% of the country is now upgraded. As we exclusively reported last week, sometime over the next eight months or so Comcast will be changing their speed tiers to 12/2 Mbps, 20/4 Mbps, 50/10 Mbps, and 100/25 Mbps.

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buz

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At this point...

AT&T needs to step up the game, especially here in Atlanta. Long are gone the days when they said "who needs more than 3mbps". Many neighborhoods still cant u-verse here.
rradina

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Re: At this point...

I second that. I've been a reasonably happy Charter HSI customer (OK, no boos and hisses from those parts of the country where Charter is challenged) since 2000 but I'm tired of being without a choice. AT&T U-Verse was launched in my suburb and one street over has it but I don't. I live about a mile from I-64 where there should be lots of fiber. How hard can it be to provide competition over ~6,000' of copper?

Regarding Comcast, I know they have their detractors but kudos to them for rolling out DOCSIS 3.0 and pushing the envelope. While I'm not sure I need 100Mbps, I agree that DSL or even super DSL speeds are starting to sound like Bill Gates and the 640K barrier. I just started an empty Notepad process on 64-bit Win7 and it gulped 1,316K!

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Amazing!

Not only for the high speeds, but also for the fact that this has been posted for 20 minutes and no one has complained about the 250gb soft cap yet. I am impressed.
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BF69
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Re: Amazing!

said by Nightfall:

Not only for the high speeds, but also for the fact that this has been posted for 20 minutes and no one has complained about the 250gb soft cap yet. I am impressed.
At this point it's best to wait until 100% is docsis 3.0 before seeing if they raise the cap. Which they should by the way.

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Re: Amazing!

said by BF69:

said by Nightfall:

Not only for the high speeds, but also for the fact that this has been posted for 20 minutes and no one has complained about the 250gb soft cap yet. I am impressed.
At this point it's best to wait until 100% is docsis 3.0 before seeing if they raise the cap. Which they should by the way.
I have no doubt. I am just surprised that people are not complaining here.
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WernerSchutz

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Re: Amazing!

Or they may lower it, since "nobody cares".
zed260
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why raise the cap theres no need if ppl want to download more get dsl or bussinuss class no incentive exist to raise caps right now so they wont (i sent email to ceo he said cap wont be raised till 2015 if at all is what they plan)

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said by BF69:

said by Nightfall:

Not only for the high speeds, but also for the fact that this has been posted for 20 minutes and no one has complained about the 250gb soft cap yet. I am impressed.
At this point it's best to wait until 100% is docsis 3.0 before seeing if they raise the cap. Which they should by the way.
as for 6mbps that's plenty for a connection with limited bandwidth or bits
i have 20mbit in both direction and its capable of 300gb per day or 160GB if going in one direction downloading or uploading only
i get an impressive 2500kb/sec, 2400kb/s
japan and korea has it better 100mbit for 30 buck a month
i am paying 70.00 a month
20mbit would be like 10.00 a month to korea and japan
10mbit 5.00 a month

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aww come on, give it an hour at least

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Re: Amazing!

said by Ted Sheckler:

aww come on, give it an hour at least
Been over 2 hours.

EDIT: Damn, 4:21 EDT the streak ended.
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pnh102
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Impact on TV Service

I wonder if this upgrade would have any impact on Comcast Cable TV service? We're still using the SARA software here.
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LeftOfSanity
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Re: Impact on TV Service

said by pnh102:

I wonder if this upgrade would have any impact on Comcast Cable TV service? We're still using the SARA software here.
Lol, I hear you. We have SARA here too..not much change. But to tell ya the truth, I've seen the Motorola Guide - I actually like SARA better.
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Re: Impact on TV Service

SARA is going away real soon and replaced with the Guide they use on the Moto boxes, they are porting it to Sci Atl boxes right now...

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This Is Comcast

Knowing Comcast...they won't. At least not until people start bitching about it and even then they still may not.

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Happy for Cali....

Now ship those engineers to Michigan and lets get rolling..
Crf250

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Re: Happy for Cali....

thats what im talking about... oh ya CA now complete
Tlamming

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Seriously!!!

ninjakamster

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Hmm.

Not bad, they definitely have ATT beat in the speed department but how do the prices compare to comparable U-Verse tiers? ATT is also unlimited (so far) so I'll stick with them.

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Complete? Really?

I've been checking online for the docsis 3 service in Santa Cruz for months, (and checked again today) and it still says it is "on its way soon". It's available where my parents live in California, though.
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Re: Complete? Really?

Ouch, you might not get it.
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Re: Complete? Really?

That's what i'm afraid of...With AT&T i'm stuck at 3 mbps, since we're too far away from an RT or the CO to get 6 mbps, and since there's tons of college students in my area, comcast gets awfully slow in our neighborhood on docsis2....
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AT&T still beats Comcap

...for the simple fact that with AT&T you're actually allowed to use your connection for more than 6 hours in a month.

AT&T doesn't have bandwidth caps unlike Comcap and their obscene 250 GB monthly bandwidth cap that you can pass in 6 hours @ 50 Mbps.

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Re: AT&T still beats Comcap

Your math is wrong, this also assumes you are saturating your connection constantly. Get a T1 and stop expecting something for nothing.
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Re: AT&T still beats Comcap

I'm sure he or she already pays for service.

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[(250,000MB / (50mbps/8)) / 60] / 60
[(250,000MB / 6.25Mbps) / 60] / 60
(40,000sec / 60) / 60
666.7min / 60
11.1 hrs

i thinks that's close

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Something for nothing? Please provide a link to this "free" service you are referring to.

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said by Xizer:

...for the simple fact that with AT&T you're actually allowed to use your connection for more than 6 hours in a month.

AT&T doesn't have bandwidth caps unlike Comcap and their obscene 250 GB monthly bandwidth cap that you can pass in 6 hours @ 50 Mbps.
I would rather have 50mbps than 3mbps dsl. At least when I download that 600 meg file, it won't take me that long.

Plus, who is going to download 250gb of stuff in 6 hours? You have that much pr0n to watch?
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Really? I don't think anyone knew this or felt this way... Thanks for bringing something new to the table.

And in celebration of this new news, I'll add some too... Just because speeds are faster doesn't mean everyone will automatically use more.. It does mean that things will come to you faster though.

And I would not sing the praise of ATT as they were the ones that had two cities in trial already on how to charge you by the byte after 5gbs.

Yay for ATT!!!

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said by Xizer:

...for the simple fact that with AT&T you're actually allowed to use your connection for more than 6 hours in a month.

AT&T doesn't have bandwidth caps unlike Comcap and their obscene 250 GB monthly bandwidth cap that you can pass in 6 hours @ 50 Mbps.
You're forgetting that many can't get 6mbps
Many are on 768kbps, 1.5mbps, and 3.0mbps
even if you try to use much you really have to download useless data 24hrs a day
like torrent its pointless
Not many people download high quality stuff
Just lousy MP3 youtube junk TV and useless chat that even 56kbps modem is good enough
DSL is the underdog, it is a cheap fix for modem user who need something faster
Cable is the main competitor to FIOS
Cable is like a big road but you cannot travel more then 1 lane
Or a car that can go 200mph but you can't go faster then 55 or 65 on highway

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said by Xizer:

...for the simple fact that with AT&T you're actually allowed to use your connection for more than 6 hours in a month.
With A T & T on 24/7, can it even do 250gb in a month?
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Re: AT&T still beats Comcap

said by dvd536:

said by Xizer:

...for the simple fact that with AT&T you're actually allowed to use your connection for more than 6 hours in a month.
With A T & T on 24/7, can it even do 250gb in a month?
Someone with AT&T U-verse could download over 7,500 GB in a month.

Nice try smartass.

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Re: AT&T still beats Comcap

said by Xizer:

said by dvd536:

said by Xizer:

...for the simple fact that with AT&T you're actually allowed to use your connection for more than 6 hours in a month.
With A T & T on 24/7, can it even do 250gb in a month?
Someone with AT&T U-verse could download over 7,500 GB in a month.

Nice try smartass.
I think he was talking about someone on DSL which is around 1.5-3mbps downstream. Uverse is not even close to wide adoption so using that as a measuring stick really isn't accurate.

That being said, if you have 3000 downstream DSL line, and go full bore 24/7, you are looking at 960gb per month. At 1000 down its 320gb.

I think you can leave the personal insults out of it.
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Re: AT&T still beats Comcap

said by Nightfall:

I think he was talking about someone on DSL which is around 1.5-3mbps downstream. Uverse is not even close to wide adoption so using that as a measuring stick really isn't accurate.

That being said, if you have 3000 downstream DSL line, and go full bore 24/7, you are looking at 960gb per month. At 1000 down its 320gb.

I think you can leave the personal insults out of it.
Exactly. Even at 1 Mbps it is possible to use more than 250 GB of bandwidth in a month.

Having a cap like that on a 50 or 100 Mbps connection like Comcast is doing is like paying for a buffet but then you read an asterisk on your receipt* and it turns out that you're only allowed to eat one grape.

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Re: AT&T still beats Comcap

said by Xizer:

said by Nightfall:

I think he was talking about someone on DSL which is around 1.5-3mbps downstream. Uverse is not even close to wide adoption so using that as a measuring stick really isn't accurate.

That being said, if you have 3000 downstream DSL line, and go full bore 24/7, you are looking at 960gb per month. At 1000 down its 320gb.

I think you can leave the personal insults out of it.
Exactly. Even at 1 Mbps it is possible to use more than 250 GB of bandwidth in a month.

Having a cap like that on a 50 or 100 Mbps connection like Comcast is doing is like paying for a buffet but then you read an asterisk on your receipt* and it turns out that you're only allowed to eat one grape.
It all depends on your hunger in that situation.

If you have a regular appetite, then you will eat until you are full, but you will get done eating in 5 minutes as opposed to an hour.

Take two people who are equal in the amount of food that they eat. Just because you have a trough at your table and you can eat 15x faster than someone who has to eat with chopsticks doesn't mean you will consume more as a result. It just means you will eat it faster and be done quicker.

Another example would be a car. If it takes you an hour to commute to work right now (DSL) and you decide to upgrade to 50mbps and commute in 5 minutes (Cable), it doesn't mean you will drive more as a result. Sure, you can get from point A to point B much faster, but you aren't going to drive for the sake of driving.

I fail to see if you have a faster line that you will consume more data as a result. You have the potential to consume more faster, but you won't do it just because its there.
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freshzive

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i don't think the California rollout is "complete"

I'm currently in the process of moving to Santa Cruz, CA and DOCSIS3 services are not available there. I have the 22/5 business service here in Seattle, WA and am attempting to migrate it to the Santa Cruz area...unfortunately I will have to downgrade the speed.

The Comcast reps I've talked to are "unsure" of when Docsis3 will be available there.

Based on this my guess is that there are still other un-Docsis3 served communities in California still remaining.

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Re: i don't think the California rollout is "complete"

Well it does say 80%. Chances are that area just won't see it anytime soon.
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not quite avail yet..

Yeah.. some areas don't have it (Santa Cruz, as mentioned above) and the website is not yet updated so that we can order it (Sacramento, CA)

I think it'll be another few months before its truly completed in Cali.
Crf250

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Re: not quite avail yet..

i called and asked about sacramento, they say the coding wont be complete till tomorrow early morning? anyone else try to upgrade in sacramento? what did they say

Tsume
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16/2?

Comcast here in Johnson City says that the highest tier available is 8/2, so unless they misspoke when I last called, not all non-docsis3 areas can get 16/2 as implied in the news post.

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Correction

Not all areas have access to 16/2. My area is still stuck with 8/2. I have checked on this numerous times and I know I am right.

EDIT: I see the guy above has stated the same is true in east TN. I am also in the southeast, but not in TN.

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Math Problem?

quote:
all 2.3 million California residents should be able to get the faster speeds
Of the 36+ million CA residents, only 2.3 million can get D3? LOL.
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Enjoy your new Speeds!!
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Still Waiting, and Waiting, and Waiting

I got an email that DOCSIS 3.0 was available to in my area, that was 5 months ago. I'm still waiting for it.

SoCalDude

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Oxnard, CA

20/4?

Why did Comcast get rid of 22/5??

Mr Anon

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Message to Comcast Management

Stop upgrading EXISTING broadband...

And spend your dollars upgrading your ANALOG systems that do not even have broadband first!!!

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Re: Message to Comcast Management

What Comcast franchise doesn't offer broadband?

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