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Comcast Continues to Boost Speeds
As Powerboost Gets Retired For Many Users
by Karl Bode Monday 04-Feb-2013 tags: business · bandwidth · cable · Comcast
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Comcast Speed changes we leaked last summer continue to slowly make their way to Comcast customers. According to users in our forums, customers in numerous markets say Comcast is boosting their 16 Mbps down, 2 Mbps up tier to 20 Mbps down, 4 Mbps up.

Users seeing the change say they're actually seeing around 18-22 Mbps downstream (users in other markets see 25 Mbps down, 5 Mbps up). Of interesting note is that Comcast also appears to be doing away with Powerboost, a technology that briefly increased speeds for the first part of a large download, allowing cable operators to often game speed tests.

Apparently you no longer need to provide the illusion of faster speed when you're actually delivering faster speeds. Fancy that!
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skeechan
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Cox is doing the same thing

There is little need for PB with 50-150Mb tiers. But I appreciated it when speeds were below 25Mb. Most of my file grabs were things like updates which were typically less than 100MB and it was convenient to grab things just that much quicker. It also helped with media intensive pages or video buffering.

jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

I've Still Got Powerboost, Plus...

Just ran shaperprobe. It looks like I still have Powerboost

Estimating capacity:
Upstream: 5816 Kbps.
Downstream: 33034 Kbps.

But they've apparently boosted my bandwidth, too:

Upstream: Burst size: 5196-5299 KB; Shaping rate: 3024 Kbps.
Downstream: Burst size: 9183-9764 KB; Shaping rate: 17024 Kbps.

Was originally 6/1, then it was 12/2. Now it's 17/3.

Come to think of it: The Powerboost numbers are higher than last time I checked, too. Used to be around 25-27 down, IIRC, and no more than 5 up.

Jim
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Re: I've Still Got Powerboost, Plus...

It's definitely still working here in Mendocino County in Northwestern California-




We're on the Blast! Tier, 25/4.
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pandora
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Re: I've Still Got Powerboost, Plus...

Hmm ...
Comcast says -



speedtest says



I think my initial contract was for 6/1. I'm on Comcast business. I'm still paying $59.95 per month with no sales tax.

Overall it's been amazingly good.
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Re: I've Still Got Powerboost, Plus...

That's good, we pay $74.95 a month for Blast!. It would be $64.95 a month, but they ding us 10 a month for not having their cable tv, we have Directv for that. When it was Adelphia here, they charged us the same price regardless of whether we had their cable tv or not.
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Bugger

@mycingular.net

Economy

Wonder if Comcast will also increase the speed of their economy tiers. Those never had PowerBoost.

Also wonder if other MSOs will follow suit (TWC we're looking at you)

tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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It did it's job...

PB is still working here.
I have to agree it met a need when speeds were low, but becomes less desirable/necessary with current and upcoming higher speeds (and messes up some QoS functions in streaming)
I wouldn't expect much increase the lifeline (free lunch) speeds and little if any on the economy tier, the idea isn't to make those a base/standard/starter tier, just to provide really basic service on a temporary basis for subs who can't afford anything else.

pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA

Wont upgrade my area.

I have had NO speed increases or no options for faster speed since 2008.

Comcast cares basically said they don't want to spend the money in my area to upgrade the system.

microface

@intel.com

Re: Wont upgrade my area.

TRy to Get Google Fiber, or some other Competitor for ComCast, and all of a sudden the situation will change

RWSI

join:2012-11-27
Albuquerque, NM
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Now everyone online

Now that everyone is online watching movies or playing games lets see how slow the Cable based Internet really is.
Cable has a limit on how many can do things at one time...

We will be waiting for the loss of TV channels to add more broadband.

It will cost you the consumer more in the long run!
brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

Re: Now everyone online

said by RWSI:

We will be waiting for the loss of TV channels to add more broadband.

They should be using SDV by now anyway. Removing channels won't gain anything.

FBGuy
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Evanston, IL
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still seeing it.




slightly slower download powerboost, but significantly better upload powerboost.

Packeteers
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a DOCSIS2 vision fulfilled

wow, a cable company affordably provides us with the full 30/5 speed potential of a 10 year old standard, and we all jump for joy the FCC should be ashamed of itself for enabling such a hobbled non competitive environment.
Zoder

join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL

Re: a DOCSIS2 vision fulfilled

I remember reading in PC Computing back in 1995 that within a couple of years we would have cable modems providing 30 mbps.

Morac
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Powerboost

I'm pretty sure PB only applies now to lower speed tiers. I'm on Blast (50/10) and don't have it. When I was on the lower speed tier (16/2 at the time) I did have it.

As speeds increase, at some point PB (20% increase for 10 seconds) becomes irrelevant (not to mention impossible for the highest tier).
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Re: Powerboost

said by Morac:

I'm pretty sure PB only applies now to lower speed tiers. I'm on Blast (50/10) and don't have it. When I was on the lower speed tier (16/2 at the time) I did have it.

As speeds increase, at some point PB (20% increase for 10 seconds) becomes irrelevant (not to mention impossible for the highest tier).

I would've been interested to see PB reflect the next tier up/fastest tier available. Have 16/2 on a D3 system and pulling down 105 for the short time would've been cool.

For those that have it, like me, I wonder how long PB will remain? Until I get the 50/15 upgrade?

mustang50
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Roseville, MI
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Re: Powerboost

Please, please Comcast take my powerboost, just give me a speed increase.

Please realize that non-northeast users are paying customers too.
Although there's no FIOS here, we do have other options. I have U-verse and WOW to choose from. They may not have the higher speeds either, but I would get a new customer discount.

Goober
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said by Morac:

I'm pretty sure PB only applies now to lower speed tiers. I'm on Blast (50/10) and don't have it. When I was on the lower speed tier (16/2 at the time) I did have it.

As speeds increase, at some point PB (20% increase for 10 seconds) becomes irrelevant (not to mention impossible for the highest tier).

I've always had PB on the Blast tier. Still do on the download as of a few hours ago.
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Morac
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Re: Powerboost

said by Goober:

I've always had PB on the Blast tier. Still do on the download as of a few hours ago.

But is your Blast tier 50/10 or the lower 25/4? I had PB on Blast until it changed to 50/10.
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Goober
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Re: Powerboost

I've had 50/10(15) for the last few years.

dnoyeB
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join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
You don't get powerboost with the economy tiers. I think it starts at the performance tier.

pflog
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El Dorado Hills, CA
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Noticed this on business class

When they bumped us on business class from 22/5 to 27/7, the powerboost went from uncapped to capped. I suppose eliminating it entirely is the next step, though I'm not sure why they didn't just eliminate it when going to the 27/7 speeds if that was their plan.
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Papageno

join:2011-01-26
Portland, OR

Anyone checked Portland OR, yet?

I'll give it a looksee myself when I get home.

Anon24175

@comcast.net

Re: Anyone checked Portland OR, yet?

Looks like it! Just checked after seeing this news article. Thank god PB is done for. It just threw off speedtests and constantly would mislead me without any real benefit.

16/2 prior

»www.speedtest.net/result/2486350116.png

Today

Vancouver, WA to a long distance maintained it solid.
Papageno

join:2011-01-26
Portland, OR

Re: Anyone checked Portland OR, yet?

Boo, no change for me. 16/2 per Shaperprobe.exe

Scatcatpdx
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Portland, OR
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3 edits
I live in the Tualatin Valley service area ,near Hillsboro Oregon.

»testmy.net/download
I average 23 Mbps using 100 MB test

Augustus III
If Only Rome Could See Us Now....

join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA

no change

25.5/4.3 business.
GusHerb94

join:2011-11-04
Chicago, IL

In Chicago

On Biz class at our shop Speedtest consistently shows 20/4, Shaperprobe is 17/3 without PB. So we still have it but nowhere near what it used to be. Used to see something like 25-35 down and 5-7 up (10-30 up when they first turned on upstream bonding) w PB back before when it was 12/2
BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Groton, CT

As usual is the last to get ANYTHING. We're stuck on 25/4 with Blast!

cork1958
Cork
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Powerboost

Never have figured out that logic of Powerboost anyway. I mean, what the heck, if you can give me that speed for a few seconds, just make it full time. What good does a few seconds of cranking it do when it comes to downloading a Linux ISO or something similar?
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JigglyWiggly

join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

Re: Powerboost

cork, uploading pictures and stuff it's helpful.
May help load super heavy web pages quicker, like if a thread on a forum has a bunch of screenshots.

also what's the point of the 25/4 tier from comcast now? That's what I'm on.
Seeley

join:2009-01-31
Eatontown, NJ

No increase here on the Economy plan

I just rebooted my modem/router/devices. I didn't see any increase in speed. I have the Economy internet plan. Same old 3mbps/768kbps which in reality comes to about a max of 400kbps download speed.

Maybe they're only increasing speeds to the customers who have (and can afford) faster plans. Makes no sense, if it's true.

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