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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Upgraded 12/2 Mbps Performance tier turns in good speed/$ Depends on whether you sign up for TV or not. I'm paying $75 - $23 (modem) = $52 + $3 (modem rental) + tax = ~$55 for Ultra without TV. | |
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Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
| said by TKJunkMail  :The only reason I could see to pay for those Extreme tiers is if you do online backups or if you have multiple PCs in the house watching streaming HD videos. And if you do a lot of those activities you will bump against the 250GB cap in short order. Those people should get a Business Acct. I do not consider online backups and watching streaming HD videos a "business" activity necessarily... and so why should residential users need to get a "business" account to do this kind of stuff in any appreciable volume?
Oh wait. Comcast needs to sell cable service too... So it figures why there's a cap.... Can't allow for too much streaming HD video from alternative sources like Netflix, iTunes/Apple TV, Vudu. Residential customers might realize that they don't need cable service for "premium channels" and "OnDemand" after all. As for the business customers, I guess that these alternative services aren't as popular at business locations.
The cap is not about addressing congestion either (to quote JL - an authorized Comcast representative on DSLR)
»Re: Bandwidth Limits/Congestion Management - All discussion here
And there you have it....
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Golden, CO | No modem fee icnrease here yet I have heard absolutely nothing in my area about any modem rental fee increase. Probably because Ambit/Ubee modems are dirt cheap  | |
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| While Time Warner drags it's feet For those keeping track, current number of homes passed by DOCSIS 3.0 service by end of this year is:
Comcast: approx. 32,000,000 homes/businesses
Time Warner: approx. 0 homes/businesses
Looking good there, Time Warner. Keep up the good work. | |
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join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| Re: While Time Warner drags it's feet said by RR User :
For those keeping track, current number of homes passed by DOCSIS 3.0 service by end of this year is:
Comcast: approx. 32,000,000 homes/businesses
Time Warner: approx. 0 homes/businesses
Looking good there, Time Warner. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, but they've had those fiber optics in their system for years... TW could be known as the new AOL pretty soon.. they're even falling behind AT&T even with crappy deployments... although we hear in the next 3 months, NYC is supposed to come online with Docsis 3.0... we all wait with bated breath and the shoe to drop with a $300+ surcharge to activate the 3.0 speed tier. | |
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| Re: While Time Warner drags it's feet Once TW deploys DOCSIS 3.0 here (NC), sometime around the year 2021, I get to look forward to getting either their standard 50M/384K tier, or the 100M/512K tier. I can't wait.
AT&T technically offers the fastest speed here, soon to be 24M/2M
TW remains locked at 10M/512K
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | My area is probably the exception to the rule (central TX) but 15/2 > 18/1.5 in my book. | |
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| Re: While Time Warner drags it's feet Which is why I don't understand how come TW won't bring 15/2 to this area, since we now have U-verse.
There are plenty of places around the country where TW is offering 15 down and 1-2 megabits up and they didn't even need to deploy DOCSIS 3.0 to do it.
I can have all the downstream speed in the world but with a choked upload, it doesn't do me any good. | |
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join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: qwest... said by iansltx :Surprisingly, there are a lot of folks around here (college students) sticking with the cheaper Qwest 3/5/7 Mbit ADSL service, even though it's quite crappy. which is interesting, because when i price qwest in phoenix, its always less of a value for me because i (a) don't want a landline - i have voip and (b) i don't want a contract to fulfill.
when you factor in non-contracted, dry-loop 1.5 meg service, i'm looking at a price of nearly $45/month, for 1.5meg dsl! thats the cost for the preferred tier from cox, provisioned at 10/768k. no comparison.
OTOH is Qwest introduced 12/5 VDSL2 I'd be all over that.
as long as it was priced right without a contract or phone line 
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join:2005-09-03
Grandville, MI
| Re: Will customers be forced to upgrade. At some point, Yes! how far along that is who knows. Comcast is just currently working contacting customers of modems who are only DOCSIS 1.0 compliant. Next step will be to phase out DOCSIS 1.1 modems. Modems that are 2.0 are going to be fine for a while. There are way too many 2.0 EMTA's in the field to swap out. | |
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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| Re: Will customers be forced to upgrade. said by iansltx :DOCSIS 1.0 and 1.1 modems drag down the system. DOCSIS 2 modems don't. If you buy a modem today it'll be a DOCSIS 2.0 or 3.0 one. Therefore the VAST majority of folks will have to do nothing. Nobody is going to have to upgrade to a DOCSIS 3 modem if they want to keep 12/2 or 16/2 service. You are absolutely right. But I would recommend those who are purchasing a new modem to purchased a DOCSIS 3.0 modem - might as well!
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Will customers be forced to upgrade. Depends on what the price differential is. A D3 modem is $85ish. A D2 modem is $50 usually, but yu can get a WebStar off of eBay for $20. At which point I'd say "get the $20 modem/" | |
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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| Re: Will customers be forced to upgrade. said by iansltx :Depends on what the price differential is. A D3 modem is $85ish. A D2 modem is $50 usually, but yu can get a WebStar off of eBay for $20. At which point I'd say "get the $20 modem/" But it's a webstar.. lol
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: Will customers be forced to upgrade. Actually Webstars are good modems. Basic, but good.
Ambits OTOH...mainly the DOCSIS 1.1/2.0 ones... | |
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as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Will customers be forced to upgrade. said by iansltx :Actually Webstars are good modems. Basic, but good. I can't count how many times a person with service issues that had a POS webstar, bought a moto and their issues went away!
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join:2001-10-01
Minneapolis, MN
| said by iansltx :Actually Webstars are good modems. Basic, but good. Ambits OTOH...mainly the DOCSIS 1.1/2.0 ones... Any Ambit I come across tends to go right back to the warehouse. Moto 5120 is where its at. RCA/Teryon/Ambit/Toshiba....no thanks. | |
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Golden, CO | Re: Will customers be forced to upgrade. Wish they had Moto modems for rent here... | |
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join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
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| said by codee :said by iansltx :Actually Webstars are good modems. Basic, but good. Ambits OTOH...mainly the DOCSIS 1.1/2.0 ones... Any Ambit I come across tends to go right back to the warehouse. Moto 5120 is where its at. RCA/Teryon/Ambit/Toshiba....no thanks. I have the SB-5120 (in fact, I've had it since 2005) and, despite sucky signal (behind three splitters; I wouind up losing the "homerun hotwire" I had to the modem in an inside-wiring reconfiguration) it still runs like a champ. (This is a personally-owned SB-5120, and one of the oldest in all of Comcast; I bought it at the Concord Mall Best Buy in July 2005, and have been its only owner.) RCA's DCM 2xx/3xx (the "cinder block", due to their color and blockish-shape) can be quite good (depending on the CMTS deployed; unlike Moto's SurfBoards, the RCAs are partial to ARRIS CMTS gear). I loathe Terayon (I've seen some deployed in Charles County, and have always recommended replacement when possible with Motorola or RCA), and have not seen any Ambit/Ubee (the only S-A/Cisco DPC gear I've even seen has been in Washington, DC, an ex-ATTBI system; I've heard positive comments on the DPC-2xxx).
I've not seen the DPC-3xxx or SB-6120 live anywhere in the area (despite D3 being active in nearly half of Comcast's DC area footprint); however, that is likely because (at least in my subdivision) Comcast has been primarily a cable-TV provider (Prince George's and Howard Counties were among the first deployments of DOCSIS, of any sort, in all of Maryland; I personally never had a non-DOCSIS modem, not even in the AtHome days of 2000). The increased interest in broadband came simultaneously with the deployment of FIOS (now headed for its third year for Internet and phone, and second for TV); however, the growth of FIOS Internet was not at Comcast's expense, as Comcast had few CHSI customers (and only one other than me going back to 2001; that customer moved out of the subdivision, so I've pretty much been the subsidivion's only CHSI customer). | |
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join:2004-02-15
Roseville, CA | Doubt it will be here for a while. I never get powerboost on my uploads, course I rarely hit my subscribed speed either. I'm on the 16/2 plan if anyone was curious.
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Doubt it will be here for a while. You should get a tech out on that,; or post your levels here. I see 22/3 on the 16/2 tier | |
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join:2001-04-28
Allen Park, MI | A cheer! Let's hear it for Michigan | |
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Roseville, MI | Re: A cheer! I'm begining to think the Lions will win a game before we get
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The Fab Four
join:1999-08-21
Warren, MI
| Re: A cheer! said by mustang46 :I'm begining to think the Lions will win a game before we get DOCSIS 3.0 Everything in MI is starting to suck. Jobs, Lions, home values, etc...delaying DOCSIS 3.0 is more than I can handle:) | |
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO |  What about the other 50 %?here in Denver?
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In Brightest Day
join:2001-01-04
Littleton, CO
clubs: | Re: What about the other 50 %?here in Denver? i dunno that i'd consider the stuff north of i70 ... Denver.
Would you call Brush.. Denver?
Hell.. when i lived in Thornton, i didn't consider it Denver. | |
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO
1 edit | Re: What about the other 50 %?here in Denver? It's just a Generalization. We on the north side of I70 are SOL right now.I am not feeling the love from CC right now. | |
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join:2008-11-05
Englewood, CO | Re: What about the other 50 %?here in Denver? It's in the works. It will be there very soon (as in the next few weeks.) | |
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join:2001-03-30
Louisville, CO
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| Certainly none in Boulder/Louisville yet I don't understand why both Comcast and Qwest underserve the Boulder/Louisville area given the concentration of tech workers here.
In Louisville we're stuck at Blast! speeds for now (not actually too shabby at 16M down).
Qwest has done some upgrading in my area - good because when I switched to Comcast the most Qwest would qualify me for is 256K because of my loop length and their refusal to invest in remote DSLAMs.
(Though I actually trained at 640K.)
Now they say the best I can get from their "up to 20M down" service is 14M down, so Blast! even without DOCSIS 3 still beats them.
(The pricing however is no contest, as I have Internet only from Comcast and so pay about $20/month more than I would for Qwest DSL, but at least I don't have to deal with Windows Live...) | |
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join:2001-10-30
Denver, CO | 3.0 rollout Just called Comcast, Thornton and surrounding areas go live September 30th. | |
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join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO | What about the rest of Colorado? I live in the mountains and was wondering if Comcast has any love for us here in Vail valley. | |
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join:2006-05-18
Fort Collins, CO
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| Fort Collins If you think Boulder/Louisville is bad come up to Fort Collins and use our system. Repeated complaints to comcast have not done much. For the past 18 months they have been saying they are upgrading our network from 650mhz to 1ghz but nothing yet. We pay the same prices as the Denver area and get less HD, less internet, and less everything. | |
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join:2007-04-20
Denver, CO
| LITTLETON I upgraded to ULTRA 22/5 from BLAST 16/2. Got a ARRIS TM 702G 3.0 Docsis modem from Comcast (Best available here)
The modem can be used also for digital phone service. (I don't used Comcast for phone service)
I'm buying a MOTOROLA SB6120 from Amazon so I won't have to pay rental fees. ($3-$5)
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join:2000-11-08
Grayslake, IL
| Re: LITTLETON I'm getting the full 22/5 speeds... but only since I replaced the modem I was renting from Comcast (and old RCA/Thomson) with a Motorola SB5101. I was topping out at 8Mbs/768K, and I wondered why I was not getting the faster speed I was being charged for.
Heard the modem rental fee was going up, so I bought. Bang. 22/5 and at times more.
Wonder how long Comcast would let customers go with old equipment that can't handle the higher 2.0 speeds? Let the customer complain and then replace the old stuff? Get business strategy, huh? | |
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join:2007-04-20
Denver, CO
| Re: LITTLETON My old modem was a Webstar DPC-2100. I had it for 4 years and liked it! Comcast techs said that it couldn't do BLAST service 16/2 so I decide to swap modems. Then I upgraded to 22/5 and are buying a MOTOROLA SB6120 Docsis 3.0 modem. [THE BEST.. I've heard]
I don't think most people care about their equipment unless they take the time to do a little research to find out about it. | |
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join:2001-12-30
Denver, CO
| No D3 upgrade in Glendale Nothing new going on here in the Glendale area. I'd have thought that they'd have updated this area fairly quickly.
"Business Class" 16/2 service
Last time I called to inquire about upgrading to DOCSIS 3, I was told I could be upgraded from 16/2 to 22/5 for only $90 a month more!
Thank god I only have 3 months left on my business class contract. | |
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join:2002-09-27
1 edit | Nothing in Westminster I heard just earlier this week that the upgrade for Westminster/Thornton area was going live on the 30th. I've re-synced and not pulled any new firmware to my Terayon TJ715
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join:2005-05-24
Broomfield, CO | Re: Nothing in Westminster I actually just upgraded to the ultra today, they said extreme wasnt avail in the area yet. Im on the northern side of westminster | |
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join:2009-09-29 | Its Here in South Denver I have it but have a question. I am paying $42.95 for HSI then $20 for Performance Plus WOC, shouldn't this bee the 22/5 ad my totl bill is $62.95 before tax ?
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Comcast DOCSIS 3.0 Hits Denver
Upgraded 12/2 Mbps Performance tier turns in good speed/$
Will customers be forced to upgrade.
I say again, does anyone out there know if customers will be forced to upgrade or will they be allowed to keep their existing modem if they do not need the higher speed? I am sure that some customers might just switch to DSL if Comcast does not allow them to keep their existing modem.