  jblues
join:2001-04-28
Allen Park, MI | Yeah for MI...Downriver soon? Huzzah...lets hope Downriver in the Detroit market is up in the mix fairly soon!! I have had an SB6120 for 6 months now and want to see it get moving on D3!! | |
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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI | Any word on Grand Rapids? I wonder when Grand Rapids, MI is going to be upgraded. I only have a DOCSIS 2.0 modem, but the upgrade would be nice.
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 | | | Re: Any word on Grand Rapids? Grand Rapids, Michigan, I'm for that. Start in Wyoming Park, MI.  U-verse had been hitting us hard, and it looks good from a spec and price standpoint. I even signed up, but canceled before install after doing my homework. The way it works is the U-verse guys actually get the speeds the promise or a little less. Comcast over-delivers, so they are usually pretty close to what they advertise even during the very busy periods. I maintain web sites for customers and send large e-mail attachments at times, so upload matters. U-verse is slow at that. U-Verse TV bundles are good but the HD pictures are darker. (E.G. higher compression ratios = less quality) Still, with the other technology pieces, for the average joe, there is a lot to like about U-verse. However, their copper line has some limitations. DOCSIS 3.0 should break the tie in our neighborhood between Comcast and AT&T. | |
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| | NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI Reviews:
 ·Site5.com
 ·Comcast
 ·Callcentric
| Re: Any word on Grand Rapids? said by IT_Architect :Grand Rapids, Michigan, I'm for that. Start in Wyoming Park, MI. U-verse had been hitting us hard, and it looks good from a spec and price standpoint. I even signed up, but canceled before install after doing my homework. The way it works is the U-verse guys actually get the speeds the promise or a little less. Comcast over-delivers, so they are usually pretty close to what they advertise even during the very busy periods. I maintain web sites for customers and send large e-mail attachments at times, so upload matters. U-verse is slow at that. U-Verse TV bundles are good but the HD pictures are darker. (E.G. higher compression ratios = less quality) Still, with the other technology pieces, for the average joe, there is a lot to like about U-verse. However, their copper line has some limitations. DOCSIS 3.0 should break the tie in our neighborhood between Comcast and AT&T. At least you have Uverse. I don't even have that option and I live close to Calvin College. 
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| | Come on and get to houston Come on and get to houston | |
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| | | Re: Come on and get to houston I am waiting on it in Chicago so I can dump At&t | |
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| |  djdanskaRudie32Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Wilmington, NC
kudos:4
·Time Warner Cable
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| Re: Come on and get to houston said by odreian615:I am waiting on it in Chicago so I can dump At&t Not all of chicago has it already? I've had docsis 3 since june of last year. | |
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| | | Hate to say it because I live in Houston as well but I have two friends who work as on site techs for Comcast and they say that since Time Warner left the Houston market and never kept upgrading the networks Houston will likely be dead last to make it to DOCSIS 3.0. In fact I have one of the newest Arris modems from them and its status page shows DOCSIS 1.x with speedboost. So in truth, Houston has not really made it to full DOCSIS 2.0 yet.
Thank goodness Time Warner left though or we would never make it to even 2.0. | |
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 ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 |  FTTN D3 seems a faster upgrade than FTTH FIOS
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| Re: FTTN D3 seems a faster upgrade than FTTH FIOS if Comcast or any other large cable company went FTTH the local Telcos would be screwed unless they had the FTTH already in place.
With coax usually only ~500 feet from the customers home its only hours before the fiber would be hooked up and running and all the equipment flipped around.
VZ and ATT take forever to deploy their FTTH and FTTN networks while Comcast is planning their next move past D3
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| | AVonGaussPremium,MVM
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | Re: FTTN D3 seems a faster upgrade than FTTH FIOS I think it might be a bit farther than 500 ft on average from the subscriber to the node which is where the fiber is today. | |
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| | | | | Re: FTTN D3 seems a faster upgrade than FTTH FIOS it all depends on the area and the cable provider. Many are around 500 feet if not about 1000 which is still less than ATT's U-Verse
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join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN | Re: FTTN D3 seems a faster upgrade than FTTH FIOS The cable is 900 feet from me with the node being much farther. I think in many non-urban areas people are commonly 1000+ feet from the node. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
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| All sources point to DOCSIS 3 being mere dollars per customer, plus the cost of the modem. FTTH OTOH is a few grand per customer, $1000 per customer if you're Verizon. The telcos have a bigger upgrade to make, and will be better suited for sped wars in the long run, and will have less on the infrastructure side to worry about once the network is deployed, but it's darned expensive. | |
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| | TsumePremium
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: FTTN D3 seems a faster upgrade than FTTH FIOS Judging by how quickly they are selling off the networks they don't feel like maintaining, and the first phase of their deployment being nearly over, I think the availability of FTTH is it's weakest point. It's going to take forever for Verizon to even touch on Comcast's DOCSIS3 deployment numbers with their fiber build out, and by then something even better will be out (DOCSIS4 maybe?) | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: FTTN D3 seems a faster upgrade than FTTH FIOS It's true that Verizon isn't going to touch Comcast's D3 rollout any time soon. However Verizon isn't the only FTTH provider, and Comcast and Cox are the only two national providers aggressively rolling out DOOOCSIS 3 at speeds fast enough that DSL can't match them. | |
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| | | Just goes to show that a good plan can be completely foiled by poor execution.
I love the idea of FTTH. The technical benefits are there, but if you roll it out at a snails pace, then you can not come and play with the big boys. | |
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ecoPremium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | ... Hmm, I am able to get the 12/2 and 16/2 tiers in my area(Lewes, DE) but it doesn't give me the option to order the 22/5 or 50/10. I would really like that 22/5 tier.. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: ... If it says 12/2 and 16/2 (rather than 15/3 and 20/4) then you're still *supposedly* on DOCSIS 1.1/2.0. | |
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Thade
join:2009-12-16
Orlando, FL | What about Orlando? They have it almost all of florida, but not have any bit of news when it will be in orlando or central florida.  | |
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| | Comcast DOCSIS 3.0 Hits Michigan Bring it !  | |
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 Opi
@comcast.net |  It would seem my area is already upgraded...
Speakeasy.net's speed test is reporting 35Mbp/s down, 5Mbp/s Up. | |
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| Re: It would seem my area is already upgraded... said by Opi :
I've got newsbin running in the background right now and am seeing 55 to 60Mbp/s on my *D2* modem. I am a 16/2 (pre D2 tier) customer. I was on the phone with them a few days ago about another issue and mentioned that speeds seem better lately. They mentioned that the D3 upgrades were happening locally and also told me only the 50Mbp/s tier would require a D3 modem.
Speakeasy.net's speed test is reporting 35Mbp/s down, 5Mbp/s Up.
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@comcast.net | Re: It would seem my area is already upgraded... Mustang 46 - New Have/Lenox/New Baltimore area. I believe the signal out here is fed from the Comcast bldg at 26/Gratiot.
Coke - You are probably right, I must be seeing caching on the newsreader with that 60Mb/s speed. I defiantly have a D2 modem. SB5101 that I bought on my own about a year back. I'll take the speakeasy numbers as 'accurate', ran it on a few machines in the house and averaged ~31Mb/s. 2 weeks ago my averages were around 17 with bursting about 22.
What I'm curious about now is if they are going to change the modem config file to limit the connection to the new advertised speeds. | |
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| | Detroit wonder will detroit get it anytime soon | |
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|  baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Detroit No offense, but probably not. | |
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| | FTTH with Cable? Not Likely! Let me preface this with the fact that I am a CATV Technician, a proper cable company employed one at that. The Beauty of COAX is that it has more than enough capacity. Even Fiber Deep Nodes (CATV Fiber to the Neighborhood) is WAY more than 500' from subscriber premises, unless you are luckily right next to the node, though with cable it does not matter how close to the node you are. In the end, other than utilization and signal degradation from amplification, it does not really matter how far away from the node you are, within reason. most pole spans (and underground spans) between homes are 150' or more, and there are a lot of them in the cable plant. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
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| Re: FTTH with Cable? Not Likely! Do you actually work for CableOne? If so, pray tell why they haven't put their capacity to good use and pushed DOCSIS 3 speeds over their oh-so-brilliant coax.
Also, "more than enough" doesn't equal" superior" in terms of capacity. You use the infrastructure because it's there, not because it's the best. GPON setups nowadays can push a 1 GHz coax feed on one wavelength and 2.488/1.244 Gbit shared internet on another two wavelengths. You lose cable at the 1GHz market nine times out of ten (plant tends to be 750-860 MHz) and even 1GHz cable plant can't compete with 1GHz AND a large internet feed.
Don't get me wrong, I like my 22/5 Comcast connection. But I defy you to find me a single US operator who offers 20 Mbps up on a coaxial system. There aren't any, plain and simple. Fiber operators do this on a regular basis (not just FiOS). | |
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| | sacramento? did Comcast forget about sacramento? they upgraded other areas in Northern California. Also weird that they cant rent out docsis 3.0 modems yet they have them available locally. Our current Bill also shows the newer speeds. | |
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| | Don't forget the West side!! Always get left for last here on the west side of the state! | |
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join:2005-01-11
Brownsburg, IN | Drive South now... And get Indianapolis in... | |
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| | Detroit anytime soon I wonder will Detroit get docsis 3.0 upgrades soon sucks detroit only has comcast as a cable provider and we can't get bright house or wow | |
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| Comcast starts, Verizon stops, la la la.. Comcast continues it's upgrading of docsis 3.0 upgrades, though it's very doubtful there will be many residential customers putting up $100 for the entry level tier that would NEED the ugprade of a new cablemodem (though, wouldn't it be NICE of comcast to upgrade everyone to docsis 3.0 and use that extra bandwidth to provide the FULL BANWIDTH TIER YOUR ALREADY PAYING FOR 24/7/365 such as a FTTP build can). Verizon will probably only upgrade new areas as necessary, choosing to focus in the 20-50 billion already committed. Therefore the geographies already served are worth _slightly more_ than geographies which are broadband black-holes (read crappy dsl, qwest land, or a single superior carrier, monopolies, etc). Still attached to that 250gb cap per month probably a secondary reason Verizon stopped building and/or committing to new geographies. The primary one is obvious.. there are no more "cherries" on the vine, the rest are sour rotten grapes-- no dobut that Verizon would begin to covet with lobbyists should anyone try to build there.. what a waste. | |
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| | Florida Docsis 3.0 I'm a Comcast TECH. docsis 3.0 will be out here in florida at the
end of the Year. we just Launched Docsis 2.0 this past Nov-Dec
so I'm pretty sure florida might be last to get 3.0.
3.0 will give our customers double the internet speed for free.
we offer 3,6,8 meg residential speed with docsis 2.0 upload speed at 3 to 4meg. with 3.0 it goes to 6,12,16 megs.
the reason our upload speeds aren't comparable with Fios is that
one not that many people actually upload and two the our upload is on our lower frequency because the low band Qam is easier to manage. | |
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| | See anything happen today Anyone see any changes today? | |
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| | | Re: See anything happen today Far from Michigan but does anyone have news about Miami, FL? Geezzzz they are postponing Miami since Dec 2008.... | |
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Migxp1
join:2010-01-28
Lansing, MI | Comcast reduced my service Provisioned internet speed After the Provisioned speed reduced I now only get 25Mbps with Power Boost, I was getting up to 30 to 31Mbps when I would do a speed test - now it acts like it wants to give me that but Stops right at 25Mbps. This all started after the phone service was offered.
They charge more and my service had always been fine until they reduced my Provisioned 22000/2000 to 17600/2000
I called them 6 times so far and asked about the reduction to my Provisioned rate, I was told that I would need to upgrade my hardware to Docsis 3.0 to get the old speeds, I said well you reduced my Provisioned rates and Docsis 2.0 was working fine, Now they tell me I'm getting what It should be. I spent 4 hours in time on the phone with comcast, I have been lied to 5 time from 5 comcast techs. I use Visual Route trace and see they are still Throttling service, I change my mac address to get a new ip and service is fine after the ip change until they Start Throttling the ip again, Then they have just reduced my Provisioned rates so even if I buy 2 modems and pay double using Bridged network connections - I only get the max connection of 25Mbps with power boost on both modems.
I now have Docsis 3.0 modem - like they told me countless times - I was told all of Lansing is Docsis 3.0 - I was told that I would see the rates once the modem was Docsis 3.0 - I was told they would ship me Docsis 3.0 I was told to go pick one up and I spent 20 hours and $20.00 in gas and 2 techs came to my house, this was day after day with problems - all due to the reduced provisioned rate, I asked why they did it, and no, nothing, zip zilch, other then get a Docsis 3.0 modem.
I got a Docsis 3.0 modem from comcast, it show Docsis 2.0 -
I feel the on line support do nothing but try to make you happy again as if they are doing something about it, Now I feel picked on by service techs and on line service tech, not they will not admit to the reduced service I i will post my screen caps soon.
Email - phone calls - tech who come into my home have flat out lied to me and to my face.
What can we do? but cause more work for line techs to repair hardware nodes. | |
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join:2004-03-15
Canton, MI Reviews:
·Comcast
1 edit | Here's the latest schedule for Project Cavalry in Michigan: Wayne, Romulus, Westland, Richland
1st Cut: 2/10
2nd Cut: 3/10
Jackson, Brooklyn
1st Cut: 3/9
2nd Cut: 4/8
Brighton
1st cut: 3/16
2nd cut: 4/16
No exact dates but starting sometime in March:
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| | | Re: Here's the latest schedule for Project Cavalry in Michigan: Does anyone know when Royal Oak will be converted to DOCSIS 3? | |
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join:2000-06-01
Macomb, MI | Re: Here's the latest schedule for Project Cavalry in Michigan: Still no sign of docsis 3 in Macomb / northern burbs Comcast tech doesnt even know when they will be coming short of 'hopefully this year' | |
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join:2009-09-03
Clarkston, MI | Re: Here's the latest schedule for Project Cavalry in Michigan: I live in Northern Oakland County. I had a tech out two days ago. He said they are working on it and it should be coming soon. I really hope he is right.. No dates. He also said they were working on moving more channels to digital.... | |
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| | | | | | Re: Here's the latest schedule for Project Cavalry in Michigan: It seems like a lot of talk. "04/04/2008 Comcast Corp. has announced its first deployment of DOCSIS 3.0 technology, in Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minn." "February 22, 2010 Comcast got its feet wet with 100 Mbps services last September when it launched a 100 Mbps service also targeted initially at business users in its Minneapolis-St. Paul market." Does anybody else have it there? I can't find any of them talking about it. "Comcast has targeted the middle of 2010 for full DOCSIS 3.0 rollouts across its entire footprint." It's the end of March 2010. It's available in parts of 3 cities in Michigan, Canton, Hazel Park, and Madison Heights. I'll stop back in another year to see if there has been any progress. | |
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