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I'm enjoying my new tier in Chicago....you'll enjoy it in PA!
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| | | The 50/10 does not have powerboost. Just to let ya know. | |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Denver? I'll just leave it at that. | |
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|  CjaicemanPremium,MVM
join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
kudos:2
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| Re: Denver? said by iansltx:I'll just leave it at that. Soon, very soon... 
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|  SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Denver is small potatoes compared to Houston, and they aren't upgrading us. | |
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| | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Denver? There is a difference however: Denver is a relatively major POP/fiber route for Comcast. HOU isn't. In Denver some of our traffic actually jumps onto Level3 right in town, though much of it still goes to LA. I don't think any traffic switches off to another carrier in Houston, though I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
OTOH you guys have U-Verse, which offers 18/1.5 (actual, not provisioned, at least as far as I can tell) whereas here Qwest is still truding along with service that realistically tops out at 17 Mbps down and 750k up...and that's if you are priveleged enough to be in an FTTN area. | |
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| | | SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | Re: Denver? Before the Comcast iBone routes came up, we went directly from HOU to Level3. We might still... I haven't checked. N.Houston has a major hub for Level3 and a bunch of other carriers - probably Comcast as well. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Denver? The iBone changes everything lol. All RR and apparently Qwest traffic routes through HOU right now... | |
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| | |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by iansltx:whereas here Qwest is still truding along with service that realistically tops out at 17 Mbps down and 750k up...and that's if you are priveleged enough to be in an FTTN area. Assuming your lines are PERFECT, conditions are optimal and your CO isn't oversold!
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
| Re: Denver? Lines don't have to be perfect; 24 Mbps is the max for ADSL2+ on downloads and that can be reached at 5000 feet from the CO if I remember correctly.
Oversold nodes OTOH are a very real issue. You'd think that Comcast was using DSL and Qwest cable by the congestion problems on the one hand and the lack thereof on the other. | |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD | Not sure. I am still surprised that Verizon has not reacted by raising speeds in both Cablevision and Comcast areas that currently offer Docsis 3.0 speed that currently match or is faster than current speeds offered by Verizon. | |
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|  jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
1 edit | Re: Not sure. So far nothing can match FiOS uploads, must not be much demand for the 50/20 service over the 20/20 service.  | |
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| | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast
| Re: Not sure. My thoughts precisely. I'll take 20/20 for $60 (DSLX) over 22/5 for a bit more, and maybe even over 50/10 for $140 because in most cases 20 Mbps is plenty fast enough to max out the other side of a server connection for downloading a given file, and 20 Mbps uploads are just plain wonderful when you're trying to back up, move files etc.
I pity the places that can only get 5 Mbps uploads on DOCSIS 3 (Cox and Charter areas). I'll trade 10 Mbps of download for 5 Mbps of upload any day of the week. Yes, I'd rather have 5 Mbps symmetric than 15/2  | |
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| | | | said by jmn1207:So far nothing can match FiOS uploads Typical fanboi talk. DOCSIS3 with bonded channels has uploads up to 100Mbps, and yes it has been implemented in Europe already.
The only reason you aren't seeing it here is because there's little to no demand for it. | |
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| | | jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA | Re: Not sure. said by fifty nine:said by jmn1207:So far nothing can match FiOS uploads Typical fanboi talk. DOCSIS3 with bonded channels has uploads up to 100Mbps, and yes it has been implemented in Europe already. The only reason you aren't seeing it here is because there's little to no demand for it. Oh boy, or is it boi? The only thing typical is your supremely biased and immature defensive attitude toward anything stated against the precious cable industry. You are probably one of the most subjectively pro-cable posters on this site.
To match FiOS, one would have to be competing in the same region. Is FiOS available in Europe? Can anyone get these 100Mbps cable upload speeds where FiOS is sold? Where is the competition? There is probably just as little demand for >50Mbps downloads as there is for 20Mbps uploads. At an equivalent cost, nothing can compare to FiOS when it comes to upload performance.
We've both been in this silly, back-and-forth, petty discourse anytime I disparage cable. It's no surprise to me that you are silent whenever I criticize Verizon's FiOS. Inevitably, the discussion always comes to a close with you saying that cable is basically the same as FTTH, and I just scoff and move on. I'm going to just move on and give you the last word, and I will be thankful that I don't have to work with, or for, a young man with such staunch and uncompromising convictions.
Yours truly,
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| | dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by jmn1207:So far nothing can match FiOS uploads, must not be much demand for the 50/20 service over the 20/20 service. Considering you're lucky to get 10mbps on most servers, i see why.
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| | |  xdeadhead220, 221, Whatever It Takes.Premium
join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
 ·Verizon FiOS
·Comcast
2 edits | Re: Not sure. well i run my fios 20/20 wide open day after day after week after week after week and i've upped a crazy amount of terabytes and ta da! no cap. i used to use comcast but their silly 250gb cap makes verizon look so much better. you can eat your docsis 3.o speeds, all the faster to get you to the overage fees. me, ill take my uncapped fios and laff all the way at you comcast dorks trudging along with your silly caps. LMAO you guys have no idea how bad verizon will trounce you in the long run mwuahahahaha | |
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| | What's the POINT of 50mb/sec? I mean, you can hit your cap in 2 DAYS if you have the 12mb rate, why in the hell would anyone want to pay $140.00 for 12 HOURS of internet usage a month?
Do the math. EVEN at only 1mb/sec, you can go over your cap. Give me a 1mb/sec plan for $5.95/month, and that would be worth it. You can still go over the 250GB cap, but just barely.
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| | | Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec? said by karlmarx:I mean, you can hit your cap in 2 DAYS if you have the 12mb rate, why in the hell would anyone want to pay $140.00 for 12 HOURS of internet usage a month? Do the math. EVEN at only 1mb/sec, you can go over your cap. Give me a 1mb/sec plan for $5.95/month, and that would be worth it. You can still go over the 250GB cap, but just barely. First of all, where do you get $140 a month?
Second, please explain your arithmatic. | |
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| | | | Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec? The point, the point is very simple. Right now, you are PAYING for 250GB/month. Period. You can technically do that with a 768/128KB dsl line. Sure, your running it 7x24 at 768, but you would still GET the same 250GB/month. And last I checked, a 768Kb line ran about $15.00 a month. Yet, Comcast offers the 50Mb service, which you can use up almost 70 TIMES as FAST, and end up paying almost 10 TIMES the price.
The question is, WHAT are you buying? Are you buying X number of bytes per month? If it's a CAPPED (aka comcast), then YES, you are buying 250GB/month. If you pay for the 50mb/sec plan, then you are paying $0.60 cents per GB. If you pay for the 12Mb plan, then you are paying $.16 cents per GB. AND, if you could get 768 for $15.00 a month, then you are paying $.06 cents per GB.
It's a recession. Why are you willing to pay 10 times the price for the EXACT SAME product? You can STILL get 250GB a month, no more, no less, for different prices.
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@comcast.net | Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec? just because you have fast speeds does not mean you will hit the cap faster. 50mb just means you download faster. does not mean you are going to download more. if you have 768kbps speed and let say you upgrade to comcast for the 50mbps that does not mean you will hit the cap fast. if you dont change your internet habbits you will consume the same amount of bandwidth as you did before. you can watch netflix movies 8 hours a day everyday of the month and still not hit the cap. just because you have a 1mb connections does not mean you downloand 1 mb of infomation everytime. | |
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| | | | | said by karlmarx:The point, the point is very simple. Right now, you are PAYING for 250GB/month. Period. You can technically do that with a 768/128KB dsl line. Sure, your running it 7x24 at 768, but you would still GET the same 250GB/month. And last I checked, a 768Kb line ran about $15.00 a month. Yet, Comcast offers the 50Mb service, which you can use up almost 70 TIMES as FAST, and end up paying almost 10 TIMES the price. The question is, WHAT are you buying? Are you buying X number of bytes per month? If it's a CAPPED (aka comcast), then YES, you are buying 250GB/month. If you pay for the 50mb/sec plan, then you are paying $0.60 cents per GB. If you pay for the 12Mb plan, then you are paying $.16 cents per GB. AND, if you could get 768 for $15.00 a month, then you are paying $.06 cents per GB. It's a recession. Why are you willing to pay 10 times the price for the EXACT SAME product? You can STILL get 250GB a month, no more, no less, for different prices. I don't know how long that I stated this before, but it was last year sometime.. Many people can't use their brain for squat. Sum people just have to have faster and are none the wiser... | |
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| | | | | | Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec? said by Al Smith:I don't know how long that I stated this before, but it was last year sometime.. Many people can't use their brain for squat. Sum people just have to have faster and are none the wiser... If you want to ship a package from NY to LA, you'll see there are many different delivery options. If you want it there the same day, it will cost much much more than 3-day ground service. Get it?
Oh, I noticed sum people can't spell single syllable words. | |
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| | | | yeah I think you're confused. If I was on my computer with newsleecher i'd show you a screen shot of my bandwidth history. close to 500gb / month on a 6mb connection. Been that way for about 3 years now. Never got a single complaint letter. Although I do live in a test market. (nashville/knoxville tn) | |
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|  espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
 ·Clear Wireless
| said by karlmarx:I mean, you can hit your cap in 2 DAYS if you have the 12mb rate, why in the hell would anyone want to pay $140.00 for 12 HOURS of internet usage a month? Thank you. That point is completely original and has never been made here before.
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| | | | Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec? We have a metro ethernet and about 25 t-1s and transfer about 6 terrabytes a month through them with no overages. You might get an overage on cable, but I doubt it with a business connection. | |
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|  TomClancyFreedom isn't free
join:2003-04-23
... | Well, you can either wait 10min or 60min to download the same file. That the difference. It's more about the wait than anything else.
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| | | I knew I would see someone crying caps when I saw Comcast in the headline. Kids these days want everything for nothing and need everything spelled out for them since they lack common sense.
What's the point? Because I don't want to see MORE pictures of Karl, I just want the pictures I do see to download faster. If you want to run full speed into a brick wall more power to you. My advise would be to find a wall farther away to make sure you are at full speed before you hit it.
On the article. GO COMCAST GO! Build more! Hurry so you can focus on even faster speeds! This sure beats the heck out of reading the text as it scrolled by on my 300 baud modem of decades past. WEEEEEEE!! | |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Right! " Upgraded DOCSIS 3.0 Comcast markets see the company's $42.95 "Performance" tier doubled to 12Mbps/2Mbps, while their $52.95 "Performance Plus" tier jumps from 8Mbps/2Mbps to 16Mbps/2Mbps."
Exactly! 8 becomes 16 at no additional cost!
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| | And Att is doing what again Nothing while everyone else is looking to REAL speeds they're sitting on their hands
/Must have plans in the works to slow down the nations backbone or some other sinister thing | |
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| | finally announced? wow we've had this for how many months now in "testing" phases and they finally announce it! 12/2 is definatly a nice change over 6/1! | |
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| | fiber to the wire is better If we just chemically intermixed the fiber together making a fiber to the wire connection it would be a lot better than doing it fiber/coax or just fiber optics, fiber tot he wire nis much more prevalent than most.it works better its easier to use, and its adaptablee | |
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 dslwanterIt's comingPremium
join:2002-12-16
Niles, OH
·AT&T Midwest
| Oh my That is so...so close to home! I live right on the border of OH and PA, I think the part of PA that I can throw a rock to is on the same system as Pittsburgh. Uh...time to go wifi sniffing  .
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| Re: Oh my said by dslwanter:That is so...so close to home! I live right on the border of OH and PA, I think the part of PA that I can throw a rock to is on the same system as Pittsburgh. Uh...time to go wifi sniffing . Good luck! | |
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 ztmikeMark for moderationPremium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN |  Down with the cap already
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|  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | Re: Down with the cap already said by ztmike:Comcast seriously needs to drop their silly cap, if OOL can offer 100/15 with no caps, then Comcast should also be able to do it. Why? It's not hurting their business. And Comcast's footprint is much larger than OOL.
250GB is very reasonable for today's needs. Comcast will adjust it as the need for more bandwidth grows.
For now, a limited amount of their customers are affected, less than 1%. | |
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| | modem? I don't want to "rent" one from comcast. My reasons are my own.
If comcast upgrades my area:
1) Will my service still continue to work or will I have to buy a DOCSIS 3 modem?
2) If it does work, and I don't upgrade to a DOCSIS 3, will I see the new speeds or stuck with what I've got?
3) SB5100 is what I have now, what the DOCSIS 3 equivalent from Motorola?
4) Can I buy a DOCSIS 3 modem now, before they upgrade my area? Will it work with my current service? ie. Is it backwards compatible? | |
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| Zifnab
join:2008-03-30
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: modem? 1) Your service will still work, but you will be unable to subscribe to the higher speeds that require DOCSIS 3-capable equipment. 12/2 and 16/2 tiers will still work fine.
2) See above, sorta? I don't think anyone knows what the plans are for potential speed increases that aren't using bonded channels, thus requiring DOCSIS 3.
3) Right now Comcast is using the Motorola SB6120, among other modems, for DOCSIS 3.
4) It should provision just fine, as far as I know. It won't bond channels or anything, but it should work (I think). | |
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| | What the heck Ok, so West Virginia gets it but "Atlanta, GA" only has it available in Alpharetta?
Something's messed up with priorities and market reach/share. Way to compete Comcast. | |
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