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Comcast Downplays TV Cord Cutters
CEO Roberts: 'not any real evidence' of people moving to Internet video
by Karl Bode Wednesday 12-May-2010 tags: Video · business · alternatives · Comcast
As we recently explored, Internet video currently isn't much of a threat to the multi-billion-dollar traditional TV broadcast industry -- though it's only a matter of time before faster broadband and easy, cheap devices and services more seriously challenge old-school TV. Most "cable guys" are infinitely confident in their ability to hold off the Internet video challenge, and Comcast CEO Brian Roberts is no exception. Speaking at The Cable Show this week, Roberts downplayed the threat of people cutting the TV cord, and then immediately seemed to admit it was still a threat:

"There’s not any real evidence that [consumers] want to get rid of my distribution, whether it’s satellite, cable, or phone, and just go to the Internet"...But the Comcast chief said that he has expressed concerns about cord cutting, and noted that he has had previously expressed more alarm about the trend than one of his top lieutenants, Comcast COO Steve Burke. "This is where Steve Burke and I are very different people. He wakes up every day, and the glass is half full. I wake up every day and the sky is falling," Roberts said.

Of course it's not so much a matter of cynicism as it is one of logic. Cable carriers (Comcast in particular) continue to have the lowest consumer satisfaction rates across any industry. They continue to impose bi-annual rate hikes on their customers. Should someone come along with a cheap, easy service that makes it simple enough for regular users to bypass cable operators -- it seems very hard to believe there won't be a number of people ready to make that migration -- eventually.

Meanwhile, Comcast's attempt to keep these supposedly non-existent cord cutters from cord cutting is called TV Everywhere -- which as we've discussed provides existing TV customers only with a limited selection of paywalled TV content. Early reactions were somewhat mixed, but Roberts says there should be a new version of the platform arriving sometime in the next 90 days.

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Mizzat
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I'm a cord cutter

Happily enjoying my free OTA and Hulu shows while paying my $0/month TV bill. The cable isn't even attached to the pole anymore, truely off the grid as far as TV is condernd.

I even have a home built PVR to record those favorite shows I or the Mrs. miss in 1080i or 720p and full surround sound glory. All for free!
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xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: I'm a cord cutter

I'm getting close. I use Netflix/Hulu via PS3/PlayOn but still want History, Discovery/Science, NatGeo channels. Crazy to spend $140/month (with 7Mbps) for only watching a few channels. I hope those channels offer their own streaming soon, or through PlayOn somehow. I'm close to cutting the cord anyway as it's stupid to pay this much for a few channels.

camaro92
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Re: I'm a cord cutter

That is why right there i can never cut my cord i will never give the discovery family up,more good shows on those channels in a 6 hour block than every other channel combined,sad thing is that these networks/cable company's know this and that's why (at least in my area) all of the good channels are spaced out in each channel tier so if you want all of them you basically have to order every channel tier your company offers,and the response i get from them when i call about this is "people don't want all those channels" bull i think the real reason is that people do want them so they keep the good one's very high up,also i don't know how it is in other area's but a few months ago they changed there channel line up and all of a sudden the movie channel and it's sister channels were moved to the sport package tier,that is bull i only follow a few teams i am not going to order a whole tier just for my movie channels back.
axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

Re: I'm a cord cutter

Sounds like you need some a la carte cable channels.

Wouldn't it be great if there were a legal version of "The Pirate Bay", where you could pay $10 and download all of a show? Or $30 and download from a group of shows for a month? Or even $1 for one show?

camaro92
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Re: I'm a cord cutter

Shame on you for thinking realistically.

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said by xenophon:

I'm getting close. I use Netflix/Hulu via PS3/PlayOn but still want History, Discovery/Science, NatGeo channels. Crazy to spend $140/month (with 7Mbps) for only watching a few channels. I hope those channels offer their own streaming soon, or through PlayOn somehow. I'm close to cutting the cord anyway as it's stupid to pay this much for a few channels.
Check out Dish Welcome Pack; it may get you over the hump. If it's still available at $15 a month or so.
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Cheers. I cut the cord two years ago. PBS is my friend

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I guess this makes me a Cord Reject, never have had cable

Jim Gurd
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I cut the cord because of one too many rate increases. I realize that Comcast is simply passing on the higher fees they are charged by the content providers but I'm pushing back. Hopefully this will motivate the cable companies to start pushing back against content providers and rejecting the annual price increases. Eventually if enough people drop their service prices will be forced down.

I don't miss cable. There are lots of alternative entertainment sources out there. I have no interest in sports so why should I subsidize it with my monthly bill? Enough is enough.
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DavePR

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Re: I'm a cord cutter

said by Jim Gurd:

I realize that Comcast is simply passing on the higher fees they are charged by the content providers but I'm pushing back. Hopefully this will motivate the cable companies to start pushing back against content providers and rejecting the annual price increases. Eventually if enough people drop their service prices will be forced down.
Comcast and Time-Warner are MSOs AND content providers. Where does that leave you?

Cable Inside

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Re: I'm a cord cutter

Time Warner Media and Time Warner Cable split last year so this is no longer the case . To put all of the blame on the cable co.s is ridiculous as the content providers force packaging and bundling on them as well. Cap Cities/ABC/Disney or whatever they are today force the cable co to include ABC Family and whatever else into the expanded basic lineup or else you can't broadcast ESPN...if you don't offer ESPN you have lost 50% of your subscribers. This is a clusterfuck happily endorsed by the FCC overlords.

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said by Mizzat:

Happily enjoying my free OTA and Hulu shows while paying my $0/month TV bill. The cable isn't even attached to the pole anymore, truely off the grid as far as TV is condernd.

I even have a home built PVR to record those favorite shows I or the Mrs. miss in 1080i or 720p and full surround sound glory. All for free!
Ditto. Built my own OTA antenna for about what I'd pay Cable in a month. Use HDHomerun and Microsoft Media Center. Use Netflix streaming when I want to watch something no available online. Never looked back.

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said by Mizzat:

Happily enjoying my free OTA and Hulu shows while paying my $0/month TV bill. The cable isn't even attached to the pole anymore, truely off the grid as far as TV is condernd.

I even have a home built PVR to record those favorite shows I or the Mrs. miss in 1080i or 720p and full surround sound glory. All for free!
I am right there with you. And I have no regrets at all.
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spivver

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Manchester, NH

Cutting the cord is bliss

Using a HTPC to watch Netflix instant, Hulu Desktop and DVDs/Blu Ray from Netflix and that's it. A side benefit is I actually watch much less TV now that I can't channel surf.

Let it go

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My family cut the cord

Times are tough. We voted and the internet connection won over the $100 cable bill.

We now use HDhome run for over the air signal and the internet for our programing. We have a computer hooked to the 55" LCD TV in the living room.

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Re: My family cut the cord

said by Let it go :

Times are tough. We voted and the internet connection won over the $100 cable bill.
Interesting you mentioned that. We have never had Cable always used over the air (OTA). Several years ago the preamp on the outdoor antenna died during the winter. I was not about to go up on the roof until spring. No one really cared (wife and two older kids) as long as the Internet was working. This was before the days of Netflix and Hulu. Now if the Internet had gone down there would have been hell to pay.

/tom

TSWYO
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I'm not Lazy (well almost)

I cut the cord a few weeks ago. Saving $80 a month. Everything I need can be streamed. Cutting the cord finally got me off my rear... excerising daily... and completing other tasks I have set out for the evening.

cableties
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Re: I'm not Lazy (well almost)

said by TSWYO:

I cut the cord a few weeks ago. Saving $80 a month. ...
Exactly.
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Frink
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Boxee - where are you...

The performance of the forthcoming D-Link Boxee product will be the test for me, if it does well, and my wife can use it without getting frustrated, I may be looking at cutting my tv cord...

vrette
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Re: Boxee - where are you...

said by Frink:

The performance of the forthcoming D-Link Boxee product will be the test for me, if it does well, and my wife can use it without getting frustrated, I may be looking at cutting my tv cord...
If you have a PC with a version of Windows Media Center, you might want to give it a try. All you need is a tuner, AvertTV Duet is $65, and an IR remote for around $25. My wife is a Luddite with a capital L, and though she initially resisted, she has no problems using MCE once I set up the remote.
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Re: Boxee - where are you...

my solution was simple and effective main mce tunning in living room.... records shows and serves up music home videos and pictures and anything else a computer can hold

old original xboxes in all the rooms with xbmc installed - they can play anything shard on the network (except hd)
cost per xbox - nothing ask around and lots of people have them sitting in closets - only works well if house is hard wired though - i find wireless always has too many pesky issues

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said by Frink:

The performance of the forthcoming D-Link Boxee product will be the test for me, if it does well, and my wife can use it without getting frustrated, I may be looking at cutting my tv cord...
There's the main problem ease of use. I use netflix and a WII but without buying more equipment I can't get TV where I want it when I want it. Just easier to pull a TV into the wall and watch something. Then you get into the wife and kids factor.

jnc2000
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East Palestine, OH

Boxee

Boxee via an HTPC and OTH HD allowed me to cut the Comcast Cable cord a long time ago.

Serves me and my wife well, and as the other poster pointed out we're more active and overall spend less time infront of the TV. We watch what we want when we want via streaming, and shows recorded via my own PVR.
caco
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Whittier, AK

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Re: Boxee

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you paying AT&T for tv now instead Comcast. Not really cutting the cord.

Belinrahs
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Re: Boxee

Paying AT&T for internet access maybe, not directly for TV. Cutting the cord = canceling cable/sat TV. Free in the sense that you're not paying any more to use Boxee or even Hulu than if you weren't. If, unlike me, you don't watch very shows or you watch shows that aren't available to stream, cutting the cord is both economical and just makes sense.
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jnc2000
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Actually I never changed my icon... I'm not on here much.

I do subscribe to Comcast HSI - Soon my broadband will be provided via fixed wireless LTE connection.

Then I will truly not have any need for Comcast. I'm not a heavy user, and LTE will serve me just fine.
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Steimes
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Once Hockey Season is over...

I am also cutting the cord, but I will re-up once it starts back up again...
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The Limit
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Re: Once Hockey Season is over...

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of "cutting the cord" when you continue to give them money regardless?
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Steimes
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Re: Once Hockey Season is over...

I might not cut the cord, but I unplug it and stop paying for a few months!

Once a reliable affordable way to get local hockey in good quality on my computer is out, I am all for it - bye bye cable.
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The Limit
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Re: Once Hockey Season is over...

Fair enough

vrette
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One week after cutting the cord...

...and I couldn't be happier. Our house is already wired for OTA and Cat 5e in every room. I realized that 90% of watch we watched on TV was local network TV, and 90% of what we watched on cable was available via streaming over the internet. So we have two HTPCs hooked up to our two main TV viewing areas, and are using Hulu, etc with $9 a month for Netflix. Overall savings is $70 a month. The only downside would be for someone who likes to watch a lot of sports (for example, the Hawks games have been on VS), but I don't miss the cable sports all that much.
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AlexNYC

join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO

Another happy cord cutter (almost cutter)

Since I live in a rural area in the mountains of Colorado I cannot get any OTA channels so I choose the $18 very basic package from Comcast for the local channels. That way I also pay $10 less for my internet as a TV customer.
For everything else I use a HTPS with Boxee and MiroTV which has a built-in torrent client.

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Re: Another happy cord cutter (almost cutter)

said by AlexNYC:

Since I live in a rural area in the mountains of Colorado I cannot get any OTA channels
Mountains are a problem for TV. Just for fun may want to plug your address into TVfool to see what estimated signal strength will be. I find it to be a better source then the more commonly used AntennaWeb from CEA.

»www.tvfool.com

/tom

AlexNYC

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Edwards, CO

Re: Another happy cord cutter (almost cutter)

Thanks. I did and I got three channels in the gray area, meaning (Grey - These channels are very weak and will most likely require extreme measures to try and pick them up) Nothing really usable on the valley floor here ...
Bobcat79
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Cut my Cablevision cord...

... 8 months ago. Saving $57 per month. It's nice not to have Disney/CN/Nick on around the clock.

Corehhi

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Re: Cut my Cablevision cord...

said by Bobcat79:

... 8 months ago. Saving $57 per month. It's nice not to have Disney/CN/Nick on around the clock.
Got tired of Sponge Bob??

Smith6612
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Re: Cut my Cablevision cord...

Doubt it. Probably got tired of seeing the same episodes on a bi-daily basis. They really have nothing better to play, unlike the past years of those channels.
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I would be if

Personally I can get everything I need via OTA and my HTPC
and internet streaming, however my two roommates aren't tech savy at all, I have to set our directv dvr for one of them still.
So no cord cutting for me, but if I lived alone I wouldn't be paying for TV anymore. For the non technical masses it's not even close to an option.
thor793

join:2005-09-10
Schaumburg, IL

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Not cutting the cord...

...but I'm also not paying for TV or Phone (landline). I still get my internet (recently switched to business class, only slightly more per month) through Comcast and use their free ClearQAM stations that come over the same line. When I first started back in February the channels were essentially their basic tv package (most are in 480p SD). It went back to only the local stations (several in 720p HD) for a while, but now I have the basic tv package back again. Means I can watch a lot of good channels for free. About the only one I'm missing right now is Syfy.

I was on OTA until I discovered ClearQAM...and I haven't looked back.

Between the free stuff, Boxee, Hulu, and my Roku (including Netflix) I really have no need for more content. I'm not a real avid TV watcher though, as I spend a lot of my time playing games on my computer.

No landline phone either...using my iPhone for my primary phone number.

Really the only things I'm missing are SyFy and a DVR. I can live without Syfy (or get it from other sources) and right now I can't afford a proper DVR...and I'm too lazy to build my own.

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ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

I may be doing it soon

We're about to buy a house, so I'm looking at my options. We have DISH right now, and, while it's a far better value than Comcast, especially in terms of HD and DVR, I'm beginning to think we can do just fine with an antenna and Netflix streaming. Most of our TV comes from about 50 miles away, but I don't mind mounting an outdoor antenna if my wife will let me. And she seems pretty receptive to the idea.

When cable/satellite was $30 a month, I could live with it, but I'm paying around $75 for a mid-range basic package, and that's just too much to spend. I think these guys are starting to price themselves out of the market. TV just isn't that important to me.

billdacat6
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Sicklerville, NJ

Cut the cord...

Got a cheep FiOS package for internet and phone only. Picked up a nice HTPC w/Blue-ray; dropped in a Hauppauge 2250 duel tuner for OTA; Netflix subscription for when nothing is on. No more pay TV…and saving $100 per month.
I even got us into pre-paid cell phones. Man, am I cheep.

Jason Levine
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We've come close

We've come close to cutting the cord a few times. Like another poster mentioned, there are channels we like that aren't available other than via cable/satellite TV. I'd probably be fine with going cable-free and buying Mythbusters episodes via Amazon.com VOD. My kids would be fine with DVDs (both owned & rented from the library), CinemaTube videos, and Netflix (both DVD and streaming via Roku).

My wife's main objection is that, during the night, she likes having the TV on. (I believe it helps her to sleep.) Then again, for about $145 (less than 2 months of cable), I could get her a 2nd CinemaTube, an external hard drive, and easily queue up eight hours of video content.

Given how much we would save by cutting cable, I don't think it's a matter of *if* we will cut it but *when* we will.
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Cord cutters will be more advanced users

Lets face facts here, a majority of cord cutters will be more advanced users. These are the people that know technology enough that they can hook a pc to their TV and output the signal to their HDTVs. They will also know what sites to go to in order to get the media to their computers. Hulu is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many other sites out there for getting sports broadcasting and other out of market broadcasts.

So when I see users chiming in that they are cutting the cord, that is great news. What you won't see is a majority of basic users doing that. Its far easier for them to rent a cable box, and press the "On" button to get 1080i signal to their HDTVs. To these people, going the route of watching TV on their computer monitors is not like watching it on their 52 inch LCD TVs. Hooking their computers up to their TVs is mundane without someone from geeksquad or a computer professional there to help them.

Cutting the cord will only happen when it becomes easy to do so. So far, its not that easy.
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so close

I'm closer
...Returned 2 DVRs to Cox the other day
Was going for "diet cable" but got suckered into a 3 month promo on the "expanded" channels. I imagine this saves them some money by not having to send a tech out to add a filter.

Either way, bill is $40 cheaper than before, which is "good enough" for now.

Just about to buy a tuner card too. Once that's done, I'll have a cheap PVR, and will be one step closer to being ready for OTA.

Thing is, OTA around here is tricky, and the "diet cable" package is almost worth it for the locals + a few others, and clear QAM channels. Still willing to spring for a decent antenna come fall, wherever I move (unless it's impossible).

Really dig the 12Mbps from Cox's internet though. Considering the lower package, but just can't bring myself to drop down to 3Mbps yet, even though it'd be good enough for SD Netflix.

dvd536
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Caps

Cord cutting is what these are all about.

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It's not the cord-cutters...

...that cable has to worry about; it's those that won't be signing up for cable to begin with.

New and upcoming 20-somethings ARE the more advanced users and will be going directly to the Internet for their content be it vai Netflix, Amazon, Boxee, or what-have-you.

Wait for the new subscription numbers to decline more than anything else.

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Re: It's not the cord-cutters...

said by darcilicious:

New and upcoming 20-somethings ARE the more advanced users and will be going directly to the Internet for their content be it vai Netflix, Amazon, Boxee, or what-have-you.
The problem is that Netflix and Amazon aren't competing with the heart of the cable/sat package offering. At best they're competing with the bloat of movie channels (HBO/Showtime/Cinemax/Stars/etc) and some of the pay per view offerings of the individual providers.

The numbers show that a large number of folks cutting the cord are actually reverting to OTA-only service in combination with a separate movie service like Netflix. The reason for OTA over pure Internet distribution is simple -- quality. Why would you watch a very soft / macroblocked flash video of a TV show with mono or maybe stereo sound when you can get a full 1080i/720p ATSC feed with 5.1 digital surround sound over the air for free? The price point for really nice TV displays continues to drop, so the entry level set that young folks are buying today is going to show increasing levels of detail. Combine that with the generally better eyesight of younger folks and video quality will remain an important factor.

The area where cable and satellite still have the advantage, and will continue to be the reason people sign up, is live sports. The nemesis to reduced bandwidth video is fast motion. It's easy to make standard TV programming like sitcoms and dramas look good via online streaming at modest bit rates, but scaling streams down to broadband subscriber bit rates makes fast motion sports almost impossible to watch on a 55" screen.

Take NHL games, for instance. There are a number of available video feeds online from "rogue" sources as well as official league sources like NHL GameCenter Live. There isn't a single feed out there that doesn't stutter or display horrible macroblocking when displayed on a 55" screen. I'm in a better-than-average position in that I have 50/10 Business class Internet service at home without any kind of cap, and I still subscribe to 2 different satellite TV services to get Center Ice (out of market) games in HD. There are certain areas where Internet-based video content cannot compete today, and will be unable to compete for the foreseeable future.

DavePR

join:2008-06-04
Canyon Country, CA
There will always be live shows that can only be produced by TV people. Try watching a concert on a PC. Give me a break.

I have to have cable if I want to use my TV. There is no free to air TV here.

darcilicious
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Re: It's not the cord-cutters...

said by DavePR:

There will always be live shows that can only be produced by TV people. Try watching a concert on a PC. Give me a break.
Actually I watched U2's live performance last fall via YouTube on our 47" LCD TV. I truly expected it to crash and burn but was quite surprised instead.

Was it 1080p HD? No. Will similar events be 1080p in the near future? Yes.

PRTV

@gblx.net

Cutting the cord is fine and all that, but....

I don't think it will be long before Hulu starts charging subscriptions, Netflix upps their prices on streaming and most ISP's start lowering their caps or start charging per GB. If you're gonna cut the cord on cable don't think the internet won't be next.

BF69
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Camden, TN

Re: Cutting the cord is fine and all that, but....

said by PRTV :

I don't think it will be long before Hulu starts charging subscriptions,
Hulu isn't going to charge on anything they show now. The subcription is going to allow you to watch full seasons of current shows. It will also likely to lead to more content as conten providers will be more likely to offer content on Hulu since there is an income stream coming in. Besides a $10 subcription on Hulu is cheaper than $80 cable bill.

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