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BF69
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Camden, TN | when will they drop the caps? Since Docsis 3.0 is supposed to alleviate congestion problems there is no need for caps right since that was the whole reason for the caps ( supposedly )? | |
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join:2009-01-30
Corona, CA | Re: when will they drop the caps? I think caps are less about congestion problems and more about protecting their TV model. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by Big Pete 82  :I think caps are less about congestion problems and more about protecting their TV model. yes I know that. Everyone knows that. Comcast et al seem to think everyone is stupid. Their problem once you state a reason for caps and that reason no longer exists you have an issue. | |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
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Houston, TX
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by dadkins :said by ptrowski :Again, higher speeds does not always equate to people downloading more.... EXACTLY!! From 3mbps to 16mbps - my usage has not increased. Even if I decide to get D3 - when ever it does get lit up here - I seriously doubt I will use that much more.. if any at all. Maybe on the upload side, doing backups. Faster is faster. Faster doesn't mean more, it means less time for current tasks(if the source can push it). What caps?  Here we go again. The fact that you are unable to use to its potential what you pay for does not mean that those that could use what they pay for are wrong in their desire to utilize the product they have legally purchased.
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Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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1 edit | Re: when will they drop the caps? said by sturmvogel :Here we go again. The fact that you are unable to use to its potential what you pay for does not mean that those that could use what they pay for are wrong in their desire to utilize the product they have legally purchased. Yes, here we go again!
You abused Comcast, they booted you. Get over it!
I am quite able to, just I prefer to use it as I do - even though that cuts into you like a knife.
99.9% of Comcast customers have no issue with any sort of cap - whether it was the Inviso-Cap or the now stated 250GB cap(even though it isn't set in stone).
*YOU* did what you did! They cut you off.
Doesn't matter what/where/how/why - game over!
You need to let it go. 
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join:2005-12-09
49533
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by dadkins :99.9% of Comcast customers have no issue with any sort of cap - whether it was the Inviso-Cap or the now stated 250GB cap(even though it isn't set in stone). Please provide references to back up your claim. | |
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Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
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| Re: when will they drop the caps? You also know, that a good % of those 99.9% have no clue what a Data Cap is. But when their child, or themselves go over it and get stuck with a overage bill or a disconnect. They'll surely know what it means then.
Also, every single MSO in this country had more than enough time to upgrade their last mile runs. But hey, who would've thought customers would user their 'unlimited' connections. | |
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
| said by sturmvogel :Here we go again. The fact that you are unable to use to its potential what you pay for does not mean that those that could use what they pay for are wrong in their desire to utilize the product they have legally purchased. If you want to talk about legality, let's talk about the most common reason for high bandwidth usage. If anyone has a right to complain about the caps, it's not them. Maybe I'll whine that clothing manufacturers made my pants pockets smaller and now I can't shoplift as much stuff at once. | |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by quatrix :said by sturmvogel :Here we go again. The fact that you are unable to use to its potential what you pay for does not mean that those that could use what they pay for are wrong in their desire to utilize the product they have legally purchased. If you want to talk about legality, let's talk about the most common reason for high bandwidth usage. If anyone has a right to complain about the caps, it's not them. Maybe I'll whine that clothing manufacturers made my pants pockets smaller and now I can't shoplift as much stuff at once. That you, TK? | |
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join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
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| except in DOCSIS 3 case its not faster = more, its more channels = more... the cap claim was because they said the channel was congested... now you have at least 2 channels for downstream (and possibly up to 8 depending on chipsets, etc) so the DOCSIS 3 != higher caps kinda goes out the window because we ARE allowing more bandwidth for usage | |
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join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by neufuse :except in DOCSIS 3 case its not faster = more, its more channels = more... the cap claim was because they said the channel was congested... now you have at least 2 channels for downstream (and possibly up to 8 depending on chipsets, etc) so the DOCSIS 3 != higher caps kinda goes out the window because we ARE allowing more bandwidth for usage On top of that since you have 4 or 8 channels assigned to you (and hopefully they mix the channels assigned to the users on a Node) the modem will prefer the non-congested channels that it is assigned so that congestion is less of an issue and thus the need to cap is reduced.
Also, the speeds tiers are ridiculous. D3 can do 160 (4 Channel) or 320 (8 Channel) yet they are not even offering speeds like Cablevision's (Optonline) BOOST DOCSIS2 30Mbs (really 38Mbs uncapped) let alone what D3 can actually deliver. | |
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ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA | Didkins, you only downloaded 24GB of warez last month? | |
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join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
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| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by ninjatutle :Didkins, you only downloaded 24GB of pr0n last month? Fixed  | |
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
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Houston, TX
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by Vertickle :said by ninjatutle :Didkins, you only downloaded 24GB of pr0n last month? Fixed Porn and video content from other providers is what CC fears and what the caps are all about.
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Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by sturmvogel :said by Vertickle :said by ninjatutle :Didkins, you only downloaded 24GB of pr0n last month? Fixed Porn and video content from other providers is what CC fears and what the caps are all about. Comcast has porn?
Where?
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Obama '08
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Houston, TX
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by dadkins :Comcast has porn? Where? I presume their video on demand service ?
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Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: when will they drop the caps?VOD I got.
Show me where I can download porn from Comcast and we might have something.
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by dadkins :VOD I got. Show me where I can download porn from Comcast and we might have something. Porn downloads compete with the VOD Adult offerings CC probably has. No idea, I never checked their VOD offerings.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by sturmvogel :said by dadkins :VOD I got. Show me where I can download porn from Comcast and we might have something. Porn downloads compete with the VOD Adult offerings CC probably has. No idea, I never checked their VOD offerings. doubtful. their porn VOD has A) limited choices B) high prices. | |
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Obama '08
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Houston, TX
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by BF69 :said by sturmvogel :said by dadkins :VOD I got. Show me where I can download porn from Comcast and we might have something. Porn downloads compete with the VOD Adult offerings CC probably has. No idea, I never checked their VOD offerings. doubtful. their porn VOD has A) limited choices B) high prices. There you go, that is why the video downloads from other providers ARE a problem. They are varied and cheap and high resolution.
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: when will they drop the caps? $12.00 for a comcast porn show vs, what, $30 on line for poor quality junk? In this case, porn from Comcast is cheap compared to porn on the net. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by fiberguy :$12.00 for a comcast porn show vs, what, $30 on line for poor quality junk? In this case, porn from Comcast is cheap compared to porn on the net. please. The video quality at the pay site is just as good as what you'd get from cable. besides I rather have THOUSANDS of choices than a few dozen mostly lame choices. Does Comcast have any bukkake, double anal, midgets? I thought not. | |
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Kiss It, Kiss It Real Good
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join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
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| Re: when will they drop the caps? please. The video quality at the pay site is just as good as what you'd get from cable. besides I rather have THOUSANDS of choices than a few dozen mostly lame choices. Does Comcast have any bukkake, double anal, midgets? I thought not.
Experienced much?
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join:2005-12-09
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2 edits | said by fiberguy :$12.00 for a comcast porn show vs, what, $30 on line for poor quality junk? In this case, porn from Comcast is cheap compared to porn on the net. pornhub.com. It's free. | |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Does Cumcast have PB channel or is just PPV still? | |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533
| Re: when will they drop the caps? said by dadkins :Ninja, did you fail elementary school? Everytme you misspell my name makes you look - uneducated. Yeah, warez. LOL This coming from the guy that can't spell "everytime". | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
1 edit | Re: when will they drop the caps? Yeah, you never make typos?
Ninja does it everytime - either on purpose or because he cannot read properly.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | ??? 8/768k was upgraded a while ago to 16/2...
"New Speed Options to Begin in Silicon Valley, Tri-Valley and Monterey, and Roll Out in San Francisco, Oakland and Remainder of Bay Later This Year"
Didn't we know this already? *I* did...
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"Comcast Drops DOCSIS 3.0 On Parts of the Bay Area"
Bay Area is pretty good size.
Just as with Blast last year, *PARTS OF* The Bay Area got it, others did not.
No D3 here in Hercurock.
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tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
·Comcast
| Re: ??? said by dadkins :8/768k was upgraded a while ago to 16/2... Bay Area is pretty good size. Just as with Blast last year, *PARTS OF* the bay area got it, others did not. No D3 here in Hercurock. In seattle area (and I think most other markets), it didn't happen everywhere at once, it was (sort of) one cmts/rack space (CO?) at a time.
The good news for you is it generally followed the pattern that the 12/2-16/2 upgrades used, so since you were an early adoptee for that you'll likely see/have available D3 sooner than many.
Next comes the question of "do you need it" you seem to be cruising along fine without it. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| Re: ??? I don't *need* Blast, but I want the upload speed.
According to the linked article, nothing in this particular part of The Bay Area is listed as soon-to-be.
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Naples, FL
clubs: | I am paying 62.95 now for 8/2 I want my upgrade!  | |
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ShadowMastr
Master Of All Shadows
join:2001-09-01
Fort Pierce, FL
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| South/Central Florida Yeah, well, I'm a little north of West Palm Beach, still don't know if I'm south fl or central, pretty sure south/central.....
Since we don't have any fios or uverse competition, or ANY competition except for att dsl, I'm pretty sure we won't see anything this year.
And my lady already had the triple play when I moved here, so that's what we'll probably have for the foreseeable future, unless I can convince her we don't need the tv or phone service, then we can bounce to the dsl for cheaper than the hsi only from the comcrapper....
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join:2004-06-15
Port Saint Lucie, FL
| 12 down and 16 down offered in St. Lucie county FL (34953) when I go to the comcast.com site and put in my address for St. Lucie county FL (34953; two counties north of palm beach), the Performance (12 down) and Performance Plus (16 down) are being offered. However, no where does it mention the upload speeds.
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join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | Re: 12 down and 16 down offered in St. Lucie county FL (34953) Just a note, the speed ratings you listed (12/16) are for PowerBoost which often goes higher than listed on that page.. The sustained rates are 6/1 and 8/2. | |
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join:2002-04-17 | Yet, larger markets... Yet, much larger markets like Houston (4th largest city in the nation) still have the weak 8Mbit/sec tier as the fastest option, and PowerBoost still doesn't work on the upload. | |
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prag
join:2000-12-19
Santa Clara, CA
1 edit | What happens to Blast! Tier? So I'm already on the Blast! Tier and getting 16/2. Will my speeds be doubled or see any increase at all? There's no mention of that in the article.
If there's only a small difference between 16/2 and 12/2 but still $10.00 difference, I might as well just drop the Blast! tier pricing and go with the performance tier.
"Performance" 6Mbps/1Mbps tier >>> 12Mbps/2Mbps
"Performance Plus" 8Mbps/2Mbps tier >>> 16Mbps/2Mbps.
Does that mean that "Blast!" 16/2 Tier >>>> "Ultra" 22Mbps/5Mbps ??
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join:2002-08-22
Saratoga, CA
| Re: What happens to Blast! Tier? said by espaeth :said by prag :So I'm already on the Blast! Tier and getting 16/2. Will my speeds be doubled or see any increase at all? There's no mention of that in the article. They'll probably do the same thing they're doing in Chicago. You'll be given a free self-install kit to swap your modem for a DOCSIS 3.0 model so you get an upgrade to 22/5 Ultra. Be aware that this conversion started several weeks after the initial DOCSIS 3.0 availability in the Chicago market. How does that work, Ultra is $10/month more than Blast. Blast has been available to most of the SF bay area for a year so the upgrade from 8/1 to 16/2 happened then.
My address shows the following options available:
Performance $42.95
Blast $52.95
Ultra $62.95
Extreme $139.95
If Comcast upgrades Blast customers to Ultra at no charge why would anyone choose to pay the Ultra price? If they do offer me a free upgrade to Ultra I’ll gladly take it but if not I’m probably going to drop down to Performance since It’s not worth $10 for 4M of download. | |
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
1 edit | Re: What happens to Blast! Tier? said by saratoga66 :said by espaeth :said by prag :So I'm already on the Blast! Tier and getting 16/2. Will my speeds be doubled or see any increase at all? There's no mention of that in the article. They'll probably do the same thing they're doing in Chicago. You'll be given a free self-install kit to swap your modem for a DOCSIS 3.0 model so you get an upgrade to 22/5 Ultra. Be aware that this conversion started several weeks after the initial DOCSIS 3.0 availability in the Chicago market. How does that work, Ultra is $10/month more than Blast. Blast has been available to most of the SF bay area for a year so the upgrade from 8/1 to 16/2 happened then. My address shows the following options available: Performance $42.95 Blast $52.95 Ultra $62.95 Extreme $139.95 If Comcast upgrades Blast customers to Ultra at no charge why would anyone choose to pay the Ultra price? If they do offer me a free upgrade to Ultra I’ll gladly take it but if not I’m probably going to drop down to Performance since It’s not worth $10 for 4M of download. I'm wondering the exact same thing. I'm actually interested in upgrading to the Ultra tier (I just verified via phone that I'm on the Blast! / 16mb/2mb plan), but Comcast's own verification page conflicts with what the press release states.
Press release says:
Beginning today, Comcast's new services will be available to residential homes (and beginning March 10 to all businesses) in the San Jose-Silicon Valley area (Alviso, Campbell, Cupertino, Los Altos, Los Gatos, Milpitas, Monte Sereno, Mount Hamilton, Mountain View, Saratoga, San Jose, Santa Clara and Sunnyvale) ...
Yet, visiting verification page and putting in 94043 or 94040 tells us that DOCSIS 3.0 isn't available yet.
Also, for those curious about the DOCSIS 2.0 -> 3.0 modem upgrade stuff, I've asked this question before, and these are the answers I got.
Bottom line: something still doesn't match up here...
EDIT: I tried going through the www.comcast.com account management page, going to Shop / High Speed Internet, selecting the Ultra tier, yadda yadda. Early on in the process, it asks you if you're subscribed to cable TV service, which I'm not (I don't watch TV). Later, you're then given a series of choices for installation, one of which is the Self-Install Kit -- which costs $29.95 plus $9.95 S/H (uh, I'd expect all of this to be waved given that you're upgrading, e.g. paying more per month). But here's the amusing part: before you can submit your order, you have to answer Yes to 4 questions, one of which is "Are you a Comcast Cable TV subscriber?". If you choose No and try to Submit the order, you're told you require a Professional installation which costs $129.95.
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join:2000-12-19
Santa Clara, CA
| I found out for myself what the deal is with those of us on the Blast! tier. AS saratoga66 pointed out, these are the valid tiers for my area:
Performance $42.95
blast $52.95
Ultra $62.95
Extreme $139.95
I spoke to Comcast a couple days ago regarding some account changes and asked about the upgrade letter I received and if my speeds were increasing. They said "no" that I am on the blast! tier for $52.95 and that there were no complimentary speed upgrades available. The "upgrade" to the 22/5 speeds would be an extra $10/mo. Well that sucks. Users on the the perf and perf-plus plans get bumped up, why not users on the blast! tier? It's like we're stuck in the middle while plans below us and higher than us get upgrades.
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join:2001-02-16
Powder Springs, GA | Yeah!! Just want to see it get going in ATL, man what's the hold up !!
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shutrbug
join:2000-10-18
San Jose, CA | I guess it's time to drop my AT&T DSL I'm paying $35/month for 3Mbps DSL, plus about $20 for a landline. It sure makes sense to switch to Comcast for 12/2Mbps for only a few dollars more and to switch to VOIP from a cheap provider. How's the VOIP performance on Comcast? | |
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Fairfield, CA | Re: I guess it's time to drop my AT&T DSL Not so good,
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join:2000-10-18
San Jose, CA | Re: I guess it's time to drop my AT&T DSL Thanks, I'll check into that. | |
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Premium
join:2004-10-11
USA
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If you go from owning your own modem, to renting the new modem, your bill just went UP. Yeah, you get more speed, but you're paying more for it. | |
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RailRoadDude
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
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2 edits | Mendocino Co, just getting Blast as of April, DOCSIS 3 too? I'm in Mendocino County (North Bay Network. former Adelphia market), and we just got a letter this month saying we are going to be bumped up from Performance Plus to Blast as of our April billing statement, though they will raise our price 2 bucks a month (grrrr). As I understood it, getting Blast does not mean DOCSIS 3.0 is being rolled out, or did I misunderstand? Does that mean we are getting DOCSIS 3.0 up here too? | |
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as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | sixty five percent Is that 65% of ALL their subs or 65% of their subs that reside in fios areas?
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join:2003-02-18
Seattle, WA
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| Question So, where the heck can I get a DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem‽
So I asked Comcast about this. They are offering DOCSIS 3.0 service now, they said they've updated their plants. But they don't have any 3.0 modems and had no idea when they would be getting any. Furthermore I've looked on line and couldn't find any. Everything appears to be DOCSIS 2.0.
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