  EdrickI aspire to tell the story of a lifetimePremium
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Woburn, MA | So Basically They spent all that money to expand to a client base the size of a small town? 6,000 Homes? Not really that many. | |
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 | cacoPremium
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Whittier, AK
1 edit | Re: So Basically Read the article. that expansion affected 25 communities. I have never been to Vermont but everything I've read is that towns are pretty spread out from each other so this really stands out especially with Verizon rushing to get out of serving rural areas.
Brookline- Population (US Census, 2000): 467
North Hero-Population (US Census, 2000): 810
South Hero- Population (US Census, 2000): 1696
Grand Isle- Population (US Census, 2000): 2377
Rough estimate but 5k folks that didn't have broadband now have services available.
Corrected - Grand Isle number- Had county number in there in error
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| | | | Re: So Basically said by caco:Read the article. that expansion affected 25 communities. I have never been to Vermont but everything I've read is that towns are pretty spread out from each other so this really stands out especially with Verizon rushing to get out of serving rural areas. Brookline- Population (US Census, 2000): 467 North Hero-Population (US Census, 2000): 810 South Hero- Population (US Census, 2000): 1696 Grand Isle- Population (US Census, 2000): 2377 Rough estimate but 5k folks that didn't have broadband now have services available. Corrected - Grand Isle number- Had county number in there in error See my other post but North Hero, South Hero and Grand Isle all had close to 100% broadband service available from wireless provider GlobalNet and DSL from Fairpoint way before Comcast came in. Comcast is not the super hero for providing to these 'Not so under served' areas! | |
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| | | | | Re: So Basically I agree with this, comcast gets all the credit but just look who was there first and who made it possible by setting all the poles and doing all the line work for comcast to put there stuff on in order to serve these customers i believe it was fairpoint as comcast doesnt have a line crew to do this type of work as they keep laying off employees right before the holidays every year. | |
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|  56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium
join:2006-03-08
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kudos:2 | Nice to see Comcast advertising on the news page here now. I'm sure the revenue is needed and this bare-faced press release will buy them some nice PR. | |
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| fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
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1 edit | said by Edrick:They spent all that money to expand to a client base the size of a small town? 6,000 Homes? Not really that many. In the area I live in Minneapolis (subs) That's the size of my entire city and I don't live exactly in really an unpopulated area.. so that's a lot.. and like it was said.. that's multiple communities.
To be honest, I'm even surprised someone posted that on BBR... every day people bitch that they want cable and other providers to expand and serve... and Comcast, of all the great evil corporations, stepped up and did just that...
But.. "not really that many" huh?? Tell that to the people who post here that are biting at the bit in order to get plant extended just 600' so they can get HSI... 6,000 new potential subscribers it a lot for that area.
what the heck does it take to make people around here happy??? I thought on this borg ship, all people were of one thought.. I guess I'm wrong.. 
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By the way.. the city of Corcoran, MN is a town of 5,630 people as of the last count... they're pretty way out of the way for the St Paul MN system.. yet comcast has service out there, in the deep rural area of the metro, and most of the service is underground to boot.. in farm land country, where there are many roads that are dirt and not even paved. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corcoran,_Minnesota | |
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| Re: So Basically said by fiberguy:By the way.. the city of Corcoran, MN is a town of 5,630 people as of the last count... they're pretty way out of the way for the St Paul MN system.. yet comcast has service out there, in the deep rural area of the metro, and most of the service is underground to boot.. in farm land country, where there are many roads that are dirt and not even paved. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corcoran,_Minnesota I thought most wires were underground in the midwest because of the high winds, storms and torndaoes? Here in the east most of the lines are above ground still even though at least 10 times a year we have trees knock lines down because of snow, ice, wind, or storms. | |
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| | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Re: So Basically Not really true... there are PLENTY of over head areas out here.. in the Twin Cities, we have mostly underground service in the newer areas just as with any other metro.. the thing is, the Twin Cities saw an INCREDIBLE amount of growth over the past few decades and sprawled a lot. With that, we do have a lot of underground areas, however, we also have a TON of over head.
The area of Corcoran that I'm talking about is rather old.. rural - and there IS a lot of farm land out here.. it's usually a place you'd find more over head than not. | |
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2 edits |  Congrats Vermont
Then of course, you'll have those loners and old gizzrds who never have anything good to say.
They'll start bashing it soon enough, just watch!
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|  Ted ShecklerMonster RainPremium
join:2009-01-17
Aurora, CO
kudos:3 | Re: Congrats Vermont Great, now 6,000 more families will have to suffer and cut back and basically torture themselves to stay under the 250GB a month cap!  | |
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Come on up and join one of the Canadian ISP's and you will know real torture
If a cap is to be had, 250GB is VERY good! | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Or you can pay $60 per month for a 12/2 business class connection with no cap.
Please...it's getting old. | |
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1 edit | Re: Congrats Vermont I guess the sarcasm wasn't understood huh | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Congrats Vermont Nope  | |
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| I tried very hard to bust 250 GB per month a while back. Never made it. Now I've slowed down because it is harder to find neat stuff out there. I'll probably be lucky to break 50 GB this month.
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New Orleans, LA | Ok, so what is the catch? Vermont giving Comcast a huge additional tax break or something? | |
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|  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Re: Ok, so what is the catch? said by Van:Vermont giving Comcast a huge additional tax break or something? And if they were then what is the problem? Comcast delivered.
Besides, it wouldn't have been as if Comcast would have paid any forgiven taxes anyway, that is what its customers are for.
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| Re: Ok, so what is the catch? said by pnh102:said by Van:Vermont giving Comcast a huge additional tax break or something? And if they were then what is the problem? Comcast delivered. Besides, it wouldn't have been as if Comcast would have paid any forgiven taxes anyway, that is what its customers are for. Ok, so what is the catch?
If they did, I am fine with it. I just prefer knowing what Comcast gets for doing it.
Keeping track of what the companies get for their expansions seems to be to be good for consumers so we can be informed | |
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|  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2
1 edit | said by Van:Vermont giving Comcast a huge additional tax break or something? Even if they did, that'd be a smart move. With Verizon selling that area to a bankrupt Fairpoint, it's in the best interest of all residents to give tax breaks to Comcast and have Comcast bring next generation high speed Internet, TV and voice services.
With the roll out of DOCIS 3.0, Comcast customers can subscribe to 12/2, 16/2, 22/5, 50/5 tier plans.
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| | markofmayhemI can haz competition?Premium
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:4 | Re: Ok, so what is the catch? Not sure if the state or local government helped out here, but you can all but be assured the federal didn't. Comcast can't tap the USF, from what I understand... so another rural area gets build-out without the USF. Has there ever been a success story to the USF? | |
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
1 edit | What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. Think about it. The tale of these different kinds of companies.
One, Verizon. who seems to be doing nothing to address the needs of people like this. And worst yet..spinning these areas off into debt laden companies that collapse under their own weight so they can come out smelling good. Jeesh. Now ain't THAT what America should be all about. NOT.
Two. AT&T. Grandma Bell. Wouldn't Alexander be proud of them.
That poor man must be rolling over in his grave. Let's scrimp and save every last dime we can because..after all..we have the shareholders to watch out for. Don't we? And well..they needed to get something out there to try to compete. And it's called Pewverse...sorry..Uverse I mean.
And Three. Comcast. Think about it folks. What company just took at their own expense..Docsis 3.0..nationwide. No reason to have brought it to areas that didn't have to really compete with anyone. But..they did. And what they also did was to double peoples internet speeds. At little to no cost. Guess what? Comcast has shareholders too to please. And what they ALSO do is to go to the extent..again..at their own HUGE cost it must be..to go to a place like VERMONT..
and lay out hundreds upon hundreds of miles of new fiber network across what must be many an empty rolling farmlands..
to service such a relatively few people. Where it's doubtful they will EVER get a return on that investment..perhaps for DECADES.
But..they did it anyway. And..here it is..in the news. Just an everyday way of doing business for them.
Folks. Ain't THAT AMERICA.
To me it is.
Or..what it SHOULD be about. I think Comcast is a great company. A great American company. One with not only their shareholders in mind. But with people in mind.
I think they are winning because they are an example for these others of how you should do business. They are the definition of what a leading company should be. It is more than obvious that that family sitting in Vermont with miles between their homes..is just as important to them as the one living in a 300 unit apartment complex. And that's just how this should be.
This kind of spirit is what will lift this country up to it's true potential. Out of recession for many and perhaps depression for some. The work it provided the workers who did this..the connectivity it will provide the people who will now get to enjoy the services they otherwise wouldn't have had. It all combines to make for a very positive experience for all.
AT&T..you have GOT to change your ways. You have got to change your thinking. I've said that here on this site now for 2 or perhaps 3 years. And said you were going to get run over unless you did. And you are. And Verizon. You had the RIGHT idea with your fios expansion. Don't give up the fight your outgoing CEO started. You are changing your ways now..for the worse. Abandoning these communities and becoming more and more like AT&T everyday. That is the path..to failure.
Comcasts is the path..to success.
America is a great place. It is one where the winners ultimately can shine far beyond the rest. A place where everyone has opportunity. And that doesn't always equate to the almighty dollar. It equates to people..and companies..being the best they can be. And reaching out and doing the kinds of things that comcast is doing.
AT&T ..and Verizon. You are better than this.
You are American companies.
Start acting again for the honor of being just that.
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|  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Re: What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. Now that was one of the tougher diatribes to stomach. It's ALL about the money, Rick. Don't kid yourself. | |
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| | RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | Re: What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. said by ptrowski:Now that was one of the tougher diatribes to stomach. It's ALL about the money, Rick. Don't kid yourself. ptrowski..you might want to run along and find someone on this site who could begin to give you an idea of what a THREE HUNDRED MILE fiber plant extension would cost. I mean..surely you've seen the posts where people talk about the thousands involved just for a relatively few FEET to get to their homes..right?
And then, ask yourself about all the uncertainty of how many of those 6000 people will even sign up..what they'll sign up for..
how long they'll stay..and try to figure out how long it will take to ever recoup an investment like that.
Perhaps you'll then change your tune. | |
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| Re: What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. said by Rick:said by ptrowski:Now that was one of the tougher diatribes to stomach. It's ALL about the money, Rick. Don't kid yourself. ptrowski..you might want to run along and find someone on this site who could begin to give you an idea of what a THREE HUNDRED MILE fiber plant extension would cost. I mean..surely you've seen the posts where people talk about the thousands involved just for a relatively few FEET to get to their homes..right? And then, ask yourself about all the uncertainty of how many of those 6000 people will even sign up..what they'll sign up for.. how long they'll stay..and try to figure out how long it will take to ever recoup an investment like that. Perhaps you'll then change your tune. Rick, as Pullo suggested below now all of VT is some backwoods hickville. There are some very upscale neighborhoods there. Comcast would not go and do that out of the goodness of their own hearts, there is ALWAYS something in it for the corporation. You and I both know it.
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| | | | markofmayhemI can haz competition?Premium
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:4 | Re: What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. So then AT&T and Verizon are so piss-poor corporations that they didn't notice this but YOU and Comcast did? Huh... got any stock picks for me ptrowski?
Of COURSE it is about the money. The point is one company is taking "smarter" risks than another. Verizon's big risk right now is to stop growth and convince people that have Fios to buy it. AT&T's big risk is to continue to dump R&D tech research into outdated copper. Comcast's big risk is to lay a 300 mile fiber trunk into mountains to serve 6,000 people along the way. Which one of these specific ventures do you think is going to show more profit at the end of this year?
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join:2005-03-14
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kudos:4 Reviews:
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| Re: What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. said by markofmayhem:So then AT&T and Verizon are so piss-poor corporations that they didn't notice this but YOU and Comcast did? Huh... got any stock picks for me ptrowski? Of COURSE it is about the money. The point is one company is taking "smarter" risks than another. Verizon's big risk right now is to stop growth and convince people that have Fios to buy it. AT&T's big risk is to continue to dump R&D tech research into outdated copper. Comcast's big risk is to lay a 300 mile fiber trunk into mountains to serve 6,000 people along the way. Which one of these specific ventures do you think is going to show more profit at the end of this year? Ya think markofmayhem? My point is that contrary to Rick's statement Comcast is not doing it because it is "American" and because it is just out of the kindness of their own heart.
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| | | said by Rick:Think about it. The tale of these different kinds of companies. That's great. Now if only Comcast would iron out their FCC obligations, re cableCARD by properly training some of their CSRs that would be awesome. | |
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|  jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA | I think that Comcast is more concerned about the potential for wireless to take over in these rural areas. Since they don't own a major wireless company set to bring 4G speeds to many of these regions, their only choice is to physically wire them up to compete.
Think of it as a preemptive strike against LTE and future wireless technology advances. | |
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| | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. said by jmn1207:I think that Comcast is more concerned about the potential for wireless to take over in these rural areas. Since they don't own a major wireless company set to bring 4G speeds to many of these regions, their only choice is to physically wire them up to compete. Think of it as a preemptive strike against LTE and future wireless technology advances. Ummmm.. that's kinda silly if you ask me. I mean, really? LTE isn't "the future".. it's still a wireless option but its not really the "future"... But, you think that Comcast wired them up to head off a future competition in such a limited rural area???
There are 6,000 homes passed... if LTE is bound to come in to the area, that puts such an expensive expansion into great risk for potential losses... the more players you have in that are, the more risk for loss for all of them. If Comcast wanted 6,000 new subscribers, they could easily run promos in the areas they already serve and have them in a snap... but to say they wired up a town from scratch to head off the future competition from LTE is a bit.. well.. just grab the tinfoil hat as they say around here. | |
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Reston, VA | Re: What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. Tin foil hat? I don't see how a reference to conspiracy or paranoia applies to my comment. I have no stake in this and could not care less. I was simply presenting an idea to ponder.
This goes well beyond the little section of Vermont and is directed more toward the shape of things to come from a business perspective. This is as much about providing phone service as anything else. It's seems clear to me that Verizon is abandoning traditional POTS service and the support and infrastructure necessary to maintain it. It just seems like a natural conclusion that Verizon would make an attempt to regain lost phone/DSL subscribers with a wireless alternative once the technology is improved and more widely available. Investors have even made suggestions pointing in this direction.
If Comcast simply rests on their laurels, they may find themselves in the same position that the telcos are in now. Comcast isn't building out DOCSIS 3.0 in areas that currently have very little competition because they are considerate and nice, they are trying to make sure that they have the resources in place to keep from losing customers to next generation wireless technologies that will be their major competition in these more rural areas. | |
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join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: What a refreshingly DIFFERENT kind of company this is. said by jmn1207:Comcast isn't building out DOCSIS 3.0 in areas that currently have very little competition because they are considerate and nice, they are trying to make sure that they have the resources in place to keep from losing customers to next generation wireless technologies that will be their major competition in these more rural areas. Ummm... okay... you're assuming a lot here. Your post doesn't make sense on it's own merit... You pose that comcast is only building out DS3 becuase of next gen wireless.... Comcast has been talking about DS 3.0 for years on end now.. the tech is available and they deployed it. I'm sorry, but you're working overtime to come up with a reason for why they are .... "evolving"... Your post, like many others, implies that they only upgrade becuase someone forces them too... don't you think they, themselves, compete with themselves? Don't you think they want to have more services and options to sell to people as it is? It's not always just about competition, it's also about having products and services that people want to buy.. or buy more of.
Comcast's DS 3.0 upgrades aren't necessary for ANY amount of time before what any wireless can do for consumers. No matter what people think, LTE isn't going to be a 'masses' replacement for landline services in HSI.. it's hardly their competition. Will it expand choices for SOME people? Sure.. is it a service that will go head on with Cable and Fiber? Heck no! Not even close. Wireless broadband services are going to remain a premium for some time to come.
Comcast is upgrading, and usually a step ahead of DSL, for many reasons - unlike what you and many people think, it's not a one reason game.. there are MANY reasons.. but if I had to sum it up, I'd say it's simply to stay relevant.. think about it.. just how good is DSL and POTS doing for the phone companies? - there's your reason. | |
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Columbia, PA | While Comcast certainly doesn't have a majority stake in Clearwire (Clear/Sprint XOHM), they own quite a bit of that company. | |
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| NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:4 Reviews:
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| said by Rick:AT&T..you have GOT to change your ways. You have got to change your thinking. I've said that here on this site now for 2 or perhaps 3 years. And said you were going to get run over unless you did. And you are. And Verizon. You had the RIGHT idea with your fios expansion. Don't give up the fight your outgoing CEO started. You are changing your ways now..for the worse. Abandoning these communities and becoming more and more like AT&T everyday. That is the path..to failure. As long as AT&T will deliver Yugo service for Yugo prices, I'll stick with them.
Comcasts is the path..to success.
Only for those willing to pay Ferrari prices for Ferrari service. If AT&T joins the Comcast camp, I'll probably bail on the Internet in favor of a few extra days at the range with my Winchesters. I do love the aroma of gunsmoke!
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|  DaveDudeNo Fear
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New Jersey
kudos:1 | I wonder if Comcast got under served funds for this, probably not ? Why is it that the Bell get all this money, and never do what they claim.. Comcast for once , i am impressed with you. | |
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| Re: Not exactly poor areas the expansion is in. You are exactly right on high end homes. My parents live in Alburg at the northern end of Grand Isle county and they will never get cable up there. The best part about it is they are close enough to the Fairpoint CO that DSL is available to them. Of course they are in Fairpoints original footprint and thank got there service never went belly up over the last couple of years and service for them is rock solid. Says more for me that is stuck on at&t in rural Ohio with something that is one step above two cans and a string! | |
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I live in a 28 lot prewired subdivision 1200' away from a Comcast trunk line and have been trying to get Comcast to hook up us up for years with no success. Maybe there's hope... | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Comcast DIDNT expand their network. They UPGRADED 1-way non-fiber coax plant, the type of cable tv where you call a number to order PPV (state of the art in 1975) to 2-way HFC with VOD and DOCSIS. Its disgusting that in 2010 1-way cable plant still exists in the USA.
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Four of the communities ? South Hero, Grand Isle, North Hero and Brookline ? had not previously had access to Comcast's advanced broadband services prior to the extension of the company's fiber-optic network. With the recent additions, Comcast has extended its fiber-optic network by more than 1,200 miles since arriving in Vermont in 2006.
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join:2003-12-30
Magalia, CA
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| Lucky Vermont!!! Congrats to all those people in VT. Anything, ANYTHING, is better than dial up or satellite. Previously on Hughes, I was permitted 200MB daily and if you go over during that day, you are kicked down to dialup speed. If I read someone's comment correctly, these new customers are permitted 250GB monthly? That's over 8GB daily? Easy!
Wish they would roll out to my area.
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join:2007-07-20
East Petersburg, PA | huh?! So they went 300 miles with this to service 6000 homes but couldn't go an extra 1300 ft to service my parents and grandparents in Fishertown, PA?? But my family could have paid $25 a foot to make it happen.. | |
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Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | Re: huh?! said by DoRight:So they went 300 miles with this to service 6000 homes but couldn't go an extra 1300 ft to service my parents and grandparents in Fishertown, PA?? But my family could have paid $25 a foot to make it happen.. An extra 1300 ft to your parents and grandparents home wouldn't have yielded them with 6,000 serviceable homes plus the great PR.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | 300 miles / 6000 homes = average of 264 feet per home. That's why. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Good job Comcast I'm betting that Comcast did a lot of research into these areas and figured out that the ROI was high enough to build. If you've got upscale subdivisions etc. that are easy to build out, you can probably make your money back quickly on access services etc. You might even be able to get city government etc. to switch their communications contract from FairPoint, which is a big monetary win.
I'm curious about two things here:
1. Did Comcast have cable facilities in these areas before (but didn't have them connected to their fiber backbone)? Or is this a totally new build?
2. Is Comcast doing their standard coax-to-the-home? I'm guessing so, but RFoG would be pretty cool... | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Good job Comcast said by iansltx:I'm curious about two things here: 1. Did Comcast have cable facilities in these areas before (but didn't have them connected to their fiber backbone)? Or is this a totally new build? 2. Is Comcast doing their standard coax-to-the-home? I'm guessing so, but RFoG would be pretty cool... Comcast had 1980s-era 1-way non-HFC service in these areas. They upgraded them to HFC. Disgusting that in 2010 there is still 1-way cable plant in the USA. | |
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join:2000-10-05
Wallingford, CT
·Comcast
| VT We have a small weekend place in VT. We're in the southern part of the state, near a larger city area. Surprisingly, we have access to broadband; it's just hard to justify at a weekend house when you spend most of your time skiing.
A lot of towns are big on bringing in broadband. The though process is it will help with bringing in more business to the communities.
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join:2006-06-24
Dover, DE
kudos:1 | vz id love to see verizon build out 300 miles to service a small group of communities..... | |
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| cherries left behind This is a good move for Comcast. Though, cable companies aren't treated the same as telcos. They have fewer *MUST SERVICE* requirements than telcos. The cost of deploying fiber is decreasing, and there are probably some other financial reasons besides serving upscale homes/developments somewhere in the deal. No way fairpoint can compete with comcast. We're also seeing less interest in municipal deployments of fiber and smaller companies building their own wireline deployments. Maybe it's tougher than it looks to negotiate with Tier-1 Internet fiber companies for wholesale backhaul? Wireless is the trend breaker here-- that is expanding, especially in the midwest & south. | |
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| | Excellent business move. Move into underserved territories, you are all but garaunteed customers. | |
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| | | Re: Excellent business move. So why isn't the government subsidizing companies to build out to these rural locations if they truly want broadband for everybody? There should be some kind of incentive for building to remote locations where there is no service versus overbuilding well-served areas. | |
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join:2000-08-16
East Puddle
·Shoreham Telephone
1 edit | Comcast - check out Cornwall VT please! I live in a town that's adjacent to a Comcast-served town.
We have no cable at all here. I have to pay $15/month + $50/month, $65 total for a POTS line and the slowed DSL you could imagine.
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I run my VOIP over that, but it doesn't work well.
Check my speed test history: »/testhistory/186761/a7e62
On a good day, I can get about 1,100 Kbps down on a test to NY, but I've found that the speed can fluctuate a lot.
This is our only access to broadband, short of getting satellite. If Comcast would sell us just Broadband, without the TV, I'd consider it.
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|  tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
·Comcast
| Re: Comcast - check out Cornwall VT please! Comcast does offer stand alone HSI, everywhere they serve.
You don't get the $10 discount for a single service, but even their HSI only plan would be cheaper than your current service, and 12/2 would handle many VoIP lines pluse 10x your current speeds.
However a few HSI only accounts, won't tempt them as much as a letter from the mayor/group of citzens asking them to provide multiple services.
They need some assurance that it is worth the investment, to wire your area | |
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| | These areas were not so underserved B4 Comcast! Sorry to burst the Comcast bubble but they are the third company to provide broadband to all but one of these towns.
South Hero, Grand Isle and North hero already had broadband from wireless provider GlobalNet and they also have almost 100% coverage from Fairpoint. Yes...the company that is going thru bankruptcy has built DSL to most of the Champlain islands before Comcast! Once again DSLReports refuses to see that Fairpoint is expanding Broadband in Vermont regardless of their bankruptcy. My inlaws live in North Hero and got DSL (Triple Play) last year from Fairpoint (not Verizon) and I am actually typing this from their house. So, thanks Comcast for your overpriced services but most of the islands have had DSL for over a year now and GlobalNet for longer than that! Not so under served!!
As far as Brookline goes...parts of the town have had access to Fairpoint DSL for over a year now. I will applaud Comcast for bringing service to the whole town though! Only problem is that apparently during the last winter storm we had about a month ago everyone that had the Comcast triple play in Brookline lost all their services including phone for like 2-3 days. This information came from a friend of mine who just recently got the Comcast triple play in Brookline. I guess Comcast needs to do some work on the battery backup of their new network there.
It is great that Comcast is bringing Broadband to new areas in Vermont but they are not the only ones. There are several areas all over Vermont that have just recently gotten Broadband services. Guess who the provider is...Fairpoint, not Comcast! Its good to give credit when a company does a good thing but that should be universal to all providers!
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| | LOL Want true fiber then FiOS would of be better if they had to build in vermont. | |
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