  baineschile 2600 Premium join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI | wow what a mess it would be if cc took over tw. | |
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| said by EPS :One of those two companies should really change their name now that they've separated (I'd assume it'd be the cable company, since they own neither Time nor Warner) One of those two companies will change their name if Comcast buys it. Same as the days when we had "AT&T Broadband Internet", and "AT&T Corporation". Comcast bought ATTBI, and AT&T went on to be ... bought by SBC!
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| Re: wow There was also "AT&T Wireless Services", which became part of Cingular, and now is at&t again... (It seems like the "AT&T is now Cingular" ads only stopped when they started "Cingular is now 'the new' at&t")
Initially the AT&T Broadband + Comcast was intended to be called "AT&T Comcast", since AT&T Broadband was larger than Comcast was at that time... Now that really would have confused things! | |
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| Re: wow said by EPS :There was also "AT&T Wireless Services", which became part of Cingular ... Did not become part of anything. Was sold off by AT&T (which was ever trying to reinvent itself, since 1984, but never quite succeeding). AT&T Wireless was jointly bought by SBC (60% interest) and Bellsouth (40% interest). However, AT&T kept the rights to the AT&T brand, and SBC/Bellsouth had to come up with a new brand for the wireless venture. Hence, "Cingular Wireless".
AT&T eventually went on to be financially troubled, while SBC was in top financial shape; so SBC bought AT&T. Then SBC rebranded itself as AT&T. Then SBC bought Bellsouth (a company which wasn't really financially troubled), thus giving the old SBC (now rebranded as, "AT&T") 100% stake in "Cingular Wireless". So Ed Whitacre (who is now in charge of "Government Motors") rerebranded Cingular Wireless as AT&T Wireless. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | |
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| Re: wow said by baineschile :i think youre the first on this site to be excited to be aquired by comcast.... Second, but as others have said, this would be a media acquisition, not an ISP acquisition. | |
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| said by iansltx :Uh, actually TWC doesn't cap anywhere at this point. Also, TWC connections here are faster than Comcast connections in areas that haven't upgraded to DOCSIS 3. And cheaper; I can get 15/2 for $50 here. On Comcast that same tier would be $65-$75 IF Blast was available in my area, which it isn't. That is most definitely not the norm. Only a few select areas have 15/2 service, a few more have 10/1, and then the remaining large percentage still has 7/384. | |
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join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO | Re: wow I'm talking about 15/2 as the "Turbo" service. I thought that all areas were upgraded to 10 Mbps down and 512+ kbps up for Turbo at this point. | |
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| Re: wow said by iansltx :I'm talking about 15/2 as the "Turbo" service. I thought that all areas were upgraded to 10 Mbps down and 512+ kbps up for Turbo at this point. My apologies, you are correct. I was referring to the standard tiers. | |
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join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO | Re: wow Yeah, our tiers are cheaper here I think than in other places. We get 7/512 for $40. | |
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| Re: wow said by iansltx :Yeah, our tiers are cheaper here I think than in other places. We get 7/512 for $40. I only have basic cable ($9.99/month) so I get popped for $55 for the 7/384 tier ... yikes! I think it's $45.95 if you have any other service but basic, here that is. | |
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| said by iansltx :Uh, actually TWC doesn't cap anywhere at this point. Also, TWC connections here are faster than Comcast connections in areas that haven't upgraded to DOCSIS 3. And cheaper; I can get 15/2 for $50 here. On Comcast that same tier would be $65-$75 IF Blast was available in my area, which it isn't. I pay only $62.45 per month for my 22/4 Comcast Tier | |
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| How does this matter to subscribers or internet users? Commenters elsewhere are deploring the prospect of more vertical integration, but why should we care if Comcast owned, say, some TV production as well as cable?
On the other hand, cableco consolidation would reduce competition when we need more of it. | |
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join:2006-12-06 Indiana, PA | disney just as long as they dont own Disney.... I can just seem them destroying that company... | |
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join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD | Will the FTC pay attention? maybe with the change in administration and new people in place, the FTC will actually pay attention and do their job.
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| Another MSG HD? Do any of these channels fall under a similar terrestrial loophole that Cablevision enjoys with MSG HD?
Is this how the cable conglomerates will fight back the better picture quality and superior bandwidth of the telco provided TV services, by gobbling up the content and keeping it to themselves?
I'm sure these are all satellite fed channels, but I still don't like the idea of a provider owning the media content. | |
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join:2005-11-15 Springfield, MO | Re: Another MSG HD? G4 was crap TechTV and ZDTV were much better till comcrap gutted them | |
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| Re: Another MSG HD? said by elios :G4 was crap TechTV and ZDTV were much better till comcrap gutted them Targeting non-geek teenage basement dwellers who live with their mom and skateboard and goto anime conventions is more profitable than targeting IT geeks. | |
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| Actually, Comcast owned neither.
TechTV was owned by a JV of Jones Communications (Comcast *did* acquire a lot of the Jones cable systems, but not the production arm) and ZD (which owned ZDTV outright and spun part of it off to CNET, Inc.) and used to be Jones Computer Network.
A lot of that failure was part of the general meltdown of ZD under SoftBank ownership. (Softbank was a Japanese media conglomerate that attempted to become a *global* media conglomerate, by purchasing everything from ZD to COMDEX.)
Sorry; you can't blame that on Comcast.
(Most of the current Comcast footprint in the Washington, DC cluster is, in fact, ex-Jones Intercable; the exceptions are Montgomery County, MD, Arlington County, VA (both ex-Prime Communications), Washington, DC proper (ATTBI) and Loudon County, VA/Frederick County, MD (Adelphia).) | |
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join:2009-05-24 Beachwood, NJ | Re: Cause you know thats bull, techtv was one of the few actual good tv networks out there, i agree that comcast utterly ruined the brand and all of their followers. i miss my screen savers, i miss my call for help! | |
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join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Cause you know Hey, thanks for replying to a month old thread. Way to be on top of things! | |
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| Ridiculous Acquisition Risk is not a concern for Comcast? What kind of a dummy says that? This is exactly the attitude of people like Madoff, AIG, and a bunch of failed banks. Haven't these morons on Wall Street learned anything!
NO, Comcast needs to back off and leave other companies alone. They saved their pennies did they? Well instead of worrying about other companies they need to worry about themselves and TAKE CARE of their customers with that money by investing in Docsis 3.0 and other technologies.
No instead, we have a bunch of standing Slot Machine Morons in the company whose eyes spin like the dials on a slot machine every time they get a whiff of the acquisition addiction. Idiots. They should be fired and the SEC should step in to stop it. The only thing executives hear these days is the bell of a cash register. Cha Ching!
Furthermore. Control Content? WHY!? Who ever said it was comcast's or anyone else's job to control content. These guys need their behind kicked up between their shoulders. Selfish, Greedy, Controlling jerks who only think about a dollar sign and a decimal point.
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| said by jkeelsnc :Well instead of worrying about other companies they need to worry about themselves and TAKE CARE of their customers with that money by investing in Docsis 3.0 and other technologies. They are. DOCSIS 3 rolled out to all customer by EOY 2010  said by jkeelsnc :They should be fired and the SEC should step in to stop it. The only thing executives hear these days is the bell of a cash register. Cha Ching! What's illegal about companies acquiring other companies for strategic and financial gain?said by jkeelsnc :Furthermore. Control Content? WHY!? Who ever said it was comcast's or anyone else's job to control content. Karl, in his standard editorializing manner. | |
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| Re: I don't want said by SLD :I don't want my access provider to be a content provider. Too much conflict of interest. Too much put into the content side while the access is left for later. Indeed. Just look at the mess created when the access provider is merely a partner with the content provider.
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| More cable mergers? Doubtful. If your talking about CC acquiring/merging with TW.. that is NOT likely.. they'd own TOO much geography and market share for the lynchmob of public opinon to kill the deal in and of itself. As for acquring Disney.. not likely either.. this is not a merger of equals and the two companies have some conflicts of interest and overlapping/competing businesses which will destroy (utlimately) value of the separate entities.
Tell me how many content companies who merged lately have become a better value to the consumer?
You could ask the same for Telecom too.. On that note there is mixed news.. AT&T is a slow failure in progress and Verizon is leaning that way in it's coordinated duopolistic practices.
We can also be skeptical of a cable company which cried poor for so many reaons.. be it content negotiations, sparking a mini war with consumers over 250gb data caps, targeted duopolistic practices (not just broadband, video and phone service too!), and overall price increases in at least the past decade. Now they're flush with cash to acquire another business? Hmm, that doesn't smell right! One last thing, a CC/Disney deal has the potential to make TimeWarner/AOL or Sprint/Nextel look like a merger made in heaven.
There is only ONE cable merger that has a remote chance of happening.. and that's TW & Cablevision.. but not likely.. the Cablevision family isn't interested in selling off the business and there is a potential backlash in the customer base if the competitiveness of the Cablevision product becomes closer to the Time Warner product lineup. Not to mention, CV has enough failing businesses (ahem, Newsday, cough, cough) to write off losses against profits in Cable assets for some time to come. | |
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