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Years after failed Disney bid, Comcast ready to try again...
08:59AM Monday Aug 17 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: business · cable · content · Comcast
Since their failed acquisition of Disney a few years back, Comcast's made it clear they want to control the network and the content, having in the past few years launched a now-shuttered YouTube knockoff named Ziddio, and purchased Fandango, movies.com, and dailycandy.com. According to Reuters, the cable giant has been saving their pennies for their biggest acquisition yet, which the agency guesses could be as gigantic as a company like Viacom or Time Warner. "With Comcast, the concern for acquisition risk doesn't have to be logical," one Wall Street analyst informs Reuters.

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baineschile
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wow

what a mess it would be if cc took over tw.
JSRoman
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Re: wow

Not the cable company but the media company. In case you had them confused.
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baineschile
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i did; i had assumed twc
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One of those two companies should really change their name now that they've separated (I'd assume it'd be the cable company, since they own neither Time nor Warner)

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Re: wow

said by EPS See Profile :

One of those two companies should really change their name now that they've separated (I'd assume it'd be the cable company, since they own neither Time nor Warner)
i actually laughed out loud at that one
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said by EPS See Profile :

One of those two companies should really change their name now that they've separated (I'd assume it'd be the cable company, since they own neither Time nor Warner)
One of those two companies will change their name if Comcast buys it. Same as the days when we had "AT&T Broadband Internet", and "AT&T Corporation". Comcast bought ATTBI, and AT&T went on to be ... bought by SBC!


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Re: wow

There was also "AT&T Wireless Services", which became part of Cingular, and now is at&t again... (It seems like the "AT&T is now Cingular" ads only stopped when they started "Cingular is now 'the new' at&t")

Initially the AT&T Broadband + Comcast was intended to be called "AT&T Comcast", since AT&T Broadband was larger than Comcast was at that time... Now that really would have confused things!
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said by EPS See Profile :

There was also "AT&T Wireless Services", which became part of Cingular ...
Did not become part of anything. Was sold off by AT&T (which was ever trying to reinvent itself, since 1984, but never quite succeeding). AT&T Wireless was jointly bought by SBC (60% interest) and Bellsouth (40% interest). However, AT&T kept the rights to the AT&T brand, and SBC/Bellsouth had to come up with a new brand for the wireless venture. Hence, "Cingular Wireless".

AT&T eventually went on to be financially troubled, while SBC was in top financial shape; so SBC bought AT&T. Then SBC rebranded itself as AT&T. Then SBC bought Bellsouth (a company which wasn't really financially troubled), thus giving the old SBC (now rebranded as, "AT&T") 100% stake in "Cingular Wireless". So Ed Whitacre (who is now in charge of "Government Motors") rerebranded Cingular Wireless as AT&T Wireless.
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Re: wow

Cingular existed before the AT&T Wireless Services buyout... SBC and BellSouth formed the joint venture out of their pre-existing wireless arms.

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There was also "AT&T Wireless Services", which became part of Cingular ...
Colbert explains all that pretty well:

»www.phonenews.com/images/2007/1/···ular.mp4
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gorehound

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If they changed it to Slime Warner then it would be a differenmt name.

Mike Wolf

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Would be expensive to have to rebrand all of their cable boxes, equipment, trucks, remotes, uniforms and so on.
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TW customers would rejoice if Comcast acquired TW, particularly if Comcast raised TW Customers CAP to 250GB. You will know when it happens because you will see TW Broadband Customers dancing in the streets.

baineschile
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Re: wow

i think youre the first on this site to be excited to be aquired by comcast....

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Re: wow

said by baineschile See Profile :

i think youre the first on this site to be excited to be aquired by comcast....
Second, but as others have said, this would be a media acquisition, not an ISP acquisition.

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Re: wow

said by sivran See Profile :

I've been wishing for Comcast back ever since they swapped my area for Houston with TWC.
Ditto. Comcast was a little more expensive, but they're a much more forward thinking company. Time Warner seems to wait until their hand is forced by the competition to do anything, and when they do, it's pretty half-assed. Internet speeds vary by zip code in the LA area. Areas without U-verse or FIOS tend to get slower speeds. Pathetic. At least they're pioneering consumption based billing.
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Re: wow

Hell there's U-Verse here and we're still stuck with shitty upstream. Yeah yeah my downstream may be 7 megabits, but I'd take a downstream cut for some upstream any day. I don't even get half a meg up! I'd rather have 5/1 than the 7/~400ish I have now.
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said by Mr Matt See Profile :

TW customers would rejoice if Comcast acquired TW, particularly if Comcast raised TW Customers CAP to 250GB. You will know when it happens because you will see TW Broadband Customers dancing in the streets.
No. Comcast would not take over Time Warner Cable, but would take over Time Warner Inc. (the Entertainment co., their partner in TV Everywhere).
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baineschile
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Re: wow

see posts above....
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Uh, actually TWC doesn't cap anywhere at this point.

Also, TWC connections here are faster than Comcast connections in areas that haven't upgraded to DOCSIS 3. And cheaper; I can get 15/2 for $50 here. On Comcast that same tier would be $65-$75 IF Blast was available in my area, which it isn't.

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Re: wow

said by iansltx See Profile :

Uh, actually TWC doesn't cap anywhere at this point.

Did they finally stop capping Beaumont?
iansltx

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Re: wow

Yes they did. The backlash from trying to cap Austin, Rochester, et al made them backpedal significantly.

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said by iansltx See Profile :

Uh, actually TWC doesn't cap anywhere at this point.

Also, TWC connections here are faster than Comcast connections in areas that haven't upgraded to DOCSIS 3. And cheaper; I can get 15/2 for $50 here. On Comcast that same tier would be $65-$75 IF Blast was available in my area, which it isn't.
That is most definitely not the norm. Only a few select areas have 15/2 service, a few more have 10/1, and then the remaining large percentage still has 7/384.
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Re: wow

I'm talking about 15/2 as the "Turbo" service. I thought that all areas were upgraded to 10 Mbps down and 512+ kbps up for Turbo at this point.

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said by iansltx See Profile :

I'm talking about 15/2 as the "Turbo" service. I thought that all areas were upgraded to 10 Mbps down and 512+ kbps up for Turbo at this point.
My apologies, you are correct. I was referring to the standard tiers.
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Re: wow

Yeah, our tiers are cheaper here I think than in other places. We get 7/512 for $40.

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Yeah, our tiers are cheaper here I think than in other places. We get 7/512 for $40.
I only have basic cable ($9.99/month) so I get popped for $55 for the 7/384 tier ... yikes! I think it's $45.95 if you have any other service but basic, here that is.
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Re: wow

Yeah, here we're in the same billing district (so to speak) as Austin (email addresses are @austin.rr.com). As a result, TWC's tiers are priced to compete with U-Verse and Grande Communications, so the $39.99 I'm talking about is without TV. Pretty nice actually, as long as you can get service and as long as TWC keeps the caps away.

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said by iansltx See Profile :

Uh, actually TWC doesn't cap anywhere at this point.

Also, TWC connections here are faster than Comcast connections in areas that haven't upgraded to DOCSIS 3. And cheaper; I can get 15/2 for $50 here. On Comcast that same tier would be $65-$75 IF Blast was available in my area, which it isn't.
I pay only $62.45 per month for my 22/4 Comcast Tier

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said by Mr Matt See Profile :

TW customers would rejoice if Comcast acquired TW, particularly if Comcast raised TW Customers CAP to 250GB. You will know when it happens because you will see TW Broadband Customers dancing in the streets.
Negative. Seeing as how we currently don't have a cap. :P

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said by Mr Matt See Profile :

TW customers would rejoice if Comcast acquired TW, particularly if Comcast raised TW Customers CAP to 250GB. You will know when it happens because you will see TW Broadband Customers dancing in the streets.
No, I would not rejoice being acquired by Comcast. Time Warner's lack of caps are far superior to Comcast's ridiculous 250 GB caps and throttled service.

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How does this matter to subscribers or internet users?

Commenters elsewhere are deploring the prospect of more vertical integration, but why should we care if Comcast owned, say, some TV production as well as cable?

On the other hand, cableco consolidation would reduce competition when we need more of it.

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disney

just as long as they dont own Disney.... I can just seem them destroying that company...

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nasadude

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Will the FTC pay attention?

maybe with the change in administration and new people in place, the FTC will actually pay attention and do their job.

then again, maybe not.

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Another MSG HD?

Do any of these channels fall under a similar terrestrial loophole that Cablevision enjoys with MSG HD?

Is this how the cable conglomerates will fight back the better picture quality and superior bandwidth of the telco provided TV services, by gobbling up the content and keeping it to themselves?

I'm sure these are all satellite fed channels, but I still don't like the idea of a provider owning the media content.

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Re: Another MSG HD?

comcast owns a few stations, e!, v.s. at the top of the list. i believe most other companies offer those in HD; comcast doesnt horde their content like cablevision is doing.
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Re: Another MSG HD?

»www.comcast.com/corporate/about/···rks.html

The only channel that use to get some eyeballs in my house was Sprout and my kids have outgrown it and g4 which is not included in Dtv package I get now.
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Re: Another MSG HD?

G4 was crap
TechTV and ZDTV were much better till comcrap gutted them
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Re: Another MSG HD?

said by elios See Profile :

G4 was crap
TechTV and ZDTV were much better till comcrap gutted them
Targeting non-geek teenage basement dwellers who live with their mom and skateboard and goto anime conventions is more profitable than targeting IT geeks.

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Actually, Comcast owned neither.

TechTV was owned by a JV of Jones Communications (Comcast *did* acquire a lot of the Jones cable systems, but not the production arm) and ZD (which owned ZDTV outright and spun part of it off to CNET, Inc.) and used to be Jones Computer Network.

A lot of that failure was part of the general meltdown of ZD under SoftBank ownership. (Softbank was a Japanese media conglomerate that attempted to become a *global* media conglomerate, by purchasing everything from ZD to COMDEX.)

Sorry; you can't blame that on Comcast.

(Most of the current Comcast footprint in the Washington, DC cluster is, in fact, ex-Jones Intercable; the exceptions are Montgomery County, MD, Arlington County, VA (both ex-Prime Communications), Washington, DC proper (ATTBI) and Loudon County, VA/Frederick County, MD (Adelphia).)
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Cause you know

Comcast did a fantastic job with TechTV....
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Re: Cause you know

TechTV didn't even do a good job with TechTV. It got old.

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Re: Cause you know

thats bull, techtv was one of the few actual good tv networks out there, i agree that comcast utterly ruined the brand and all of their followers. i miss my screen savers, i miss my call for help!
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Re: Cause you know

Hey, thanks for replying to a month old thread. Way to be on top of things!
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AOL

Is Comcast going to pay extra to not take AOL with TW.

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wow...

so cable companies (and any "internet" company for that matter) wants to purchase the content to deliver.
they already own the method of delivery.
they will own the company owning the content (editorial control?).

ick. its beginning to look a lot like 1984 outside....

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Ridiculous

Acquisition Risk is not a concern for Comcast? What kind of a dummy says that? This is exactly the attitude of people like Madoff, AIG, and a bunch of failed banks. Haven't these morons on Wall Street learned anything!

NO, Comcast needs to back off and leave other companies alone. They saved their pennies did they? Well instead of worrying about other companies they need to worry about themselves and TAKE CARE of their customers with that money by investing in Docsis 3.0 and other technologies.

No instead, we have a bunch of standing Slot Machine Morons in the company whose eyes spin like the dials on a slot machine every time they get a whiff of the acquisition addiction. Idiots. They should be fired and the SEC should step in to stop it. The only thing executives hear these days is the bell of a cash register. Cha Ching!

Furthermore. Control Content? WHY!? Who ever said it was comcast's or anyone else's job to control content. These guys need their behind kicked up between their shoulders. Selfish, Greedy, Controlling jerks who only think about a dollar sign and a decimal point.

Thanks. Thats my rant for today.

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Re: Ridiculous

They are investing in DOCSiS 3, more so than any other cable provider out there.
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said by jkeelsnc See Profile :

Well instead of worrying about other companies they need to worry about themselves and TAKE CARE of their customers with that money by investing in Docsis 3.0 and other technologies.
They are. DOCSIS 3 rolled out to all customer by EOY 2010
said by jkeelsnc See Profile :

They should be fired and the SEC should step in to stop it. The only thing executives hear these days is the bell of a cash register. Cha Ching!
What's illegal about companies acquiring other companies for strategic and financial gain?
said by jkeelsnc See Profile :

Furthermore. Control Content? WHY!? Who ever said it was comcast's or anyone else's job to control content.
Karl, in his standard editorializing manner.

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I don't want

I don't want my access provider to be a content provider. Too much conflict of interest. Too much put into the content side while the access is left for later.
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said by SLD See Profile :

I don't want my access provider to be a content provider. Too much conflict of interest. Too much put into the content side while the access is left for later.
Indeed. Just look at the mess created when the access provider is merely a partner with the content provider.

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More cable mergers? Doubtful.

If your talking about CC acquiring/merging with TW.. that is NOT likely.. they'd own TOO much geography and market share for the lynchmob of public opinon to kill the deal in and of itself. As for acquring Disney.. not likely either.. this is not a merger of equals and the two companies have some conflicts of interest and overlapping/competing businesses which will destroy (utlimately) value of the separate entities.

Tell me how many content companies who merged lately have become a better value to the consumer?

You could ask the same for Telecom too.. On that note there is mixed news.. AT&T is a slow failure in progress and Verizon is leaning that way in it's coordinated duopolistic practices.

We can also be skeptical of a cable company which cried poor for so many reaons.. be it content negotiations, sparking a mini war with consumers over 250gb data caps, targeted duopolistic practices (not just broadband, video and phone service too!), and overall price increases in at least the past decade. Now they're flush with cash to acquire another business? Hmm, that doesn't smell right! One last thing, a CC/Disney deal has the potential to make TimeWarner/AOL or Sprint/Nextel look like a merger made in heaven.

There is only ONE cable merger that has a remote chance of happening.. and that's TW & Cablevision.. but not likely.. the Cablevision family isn't interested in selling off the business and there is a potential backlash in the customer base if the competitiveness of the Cablevision product becomes closer to the Time Warner product lineup. Not to mention, CV has enough failing businesses (ahem, Newsday, cough, cough) to write off losses against profits in Cable assets for some time to come.

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Re: More cable mergers? Doubtful.

actually within the next 5 to 10 years i see comcast acquiring time warner and possibly cablevision. Also I see verizon and att merging as well. The democrats have a tendency to let mergers fall through the cracks. Just look at att taking over media one and tci then comcast buying out att broadband.

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Never Happen

The FCC would not let this ever happen since it would basically cause a monopoly in the cable television industry.
When the government gets involved in private enterprise through the FCC, you are asking for a disaster of biblical proportions.
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