  baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
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1 edit | Optional? Is this service going to be optional? For an "all you can eat" music stream with most major lable content, it would be worth the 5 bucks a month. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| Heard of Napster?
No, not the old, illegal version, the new, legal one. Quality isn't great for streaming, but for $5 per month you get unlimited streaming of their entire library, which is quite large, plus five downloadable tracks per month. I paid $60 for a year up front and got 70 tracks also upfront plus the unlimited streaming for a year. Quite the deal, and it's cross-platform (anything that has Flash). | |
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| Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | The only reason the major record labels would even consider allowing this to be optional in the beginning is so they can make it mandatory in the future. | |
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| | Music services Will you be able to choose any song, or will they choose the songs for you?
The latter seems like what most cable systems already have. The former is last.fm, slacker and other services. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Music services Don't forget Grooveshark! | |
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| baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | That would be up to the labels. I am sure they would make old stuff free, but the reasonable assumption is that the new releases wont be available. | |
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| | Why? When there are free services out there like Pandora, Groove Shark and Last.fm? Groove Shark in particular lets you pick any song you want to listen to, when you want to listen to it?
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|  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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USA
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join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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| Re: Comcast already provides Rhapsody for free I thought Rhapsody was still a separate subscription, regardless. There is a branded version for Comcast (and tons of other 'brands'), but I was under the impression that it still had its own monthly fee...
Currently, I pay $15/mo. for their "to go" plan, and can't imagine losing it.
Would be a nice deal if regular streaming Rhapsody were $5.
Only thing is, the industry needs to work more deals with labels/artists/etc. to get everything online. Seeing artists/albums/songs just disappear suddenly is very annoying to encounter, esp. if it's been in my library for years and it's suddenly just gone without warning. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Comcast already provides Rhapsody for free said by amungus:I thought Rhapsody was still a separate subscription, regardless. There is a branded version for Comcast (and tons of other 'brands'), but I was under the impression that it still had its own monthly fee... They have a fee free version that allows you to create your own radio stations with the artists you prefer. They pick the songs and the order played, but you do get the artists you want. And you get so many free downloads/month of songs you pick.
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join:2004-11-26
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| Re: Comcast already provides Rhapsody for free Ahh, that makes sense. Forgot about the radio service (which is similar to Pandora/Last.fm and others).
The full Rhapsody service is much nicer though, as you can play anything, anytime.
IIRC, other services have a cheap plan that allows for streaming. Don't see why Rhapsody couldn't do this too, and partnering with ISP's on this would only make good business sense.
In my case, I've got a (Rhapsody) library that's built up to be pretty big over the years, and wouldn't want to attempt re-creating it on another service. | |
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could you get me a link to information about this? I know someone on comcast who I'd like to try this service but I don't have comcast so if its on a page locked to inside its network I'd have to be on their machine to look it up. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Comcast already provides Rhapsody for free said by Mr Anon :
TKJunkMail
could you get me a link to information about this? I know someone on comcast who I'd like to try this service but I don't have comcast so if its on a page locked to inside its network I'd have to be on their machine to look it up.
I can still use my free Comcast Rhapsody acct, but they are no longer offering it to users:
Maybe that is why they are now looking at a $5 subscription option.
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| |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by Romney2012:Comcast already provides a free customizable streaming music service for broadband customers - Rhapsody. How will this be better than that? Isn't their rhapsody just a comcast branded version that only gives you 25 tracks per month[same thing anyone can get by going to rhapsody.com]
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Re: Why? said by nightdesigns:Groove Shark in particular lets you pick any song you want to listen to, when you want to listen to it? Major labels included? how big is their library? proprietary player software required?
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| Re: Why? said by dvd536:said by nightdesigns:Groove Shark in particular lets you pick any song you want to listen to, when you want to listen to it? Major labels included? how big is their library? proprietary player software required? There hasn't been a song (in recent history) that I haven't found. Library seems to be huge and regularly updated. Uses a flash based player.
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join:2009-08-04
Sterling, VA Reviews:
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| Re: Streaming Music service = no more music collections! I no longer wish to store, sort, and find all of my physical media. It has been converted to a digital format and stored locally. However, if there was a subscription option where I could get whatever I liked from the cloud whenever I want, I would probably archive the digital media I have now and move on. Not having to worry about licensing or "what format is that file in at what bitrate?" would be nice. Of course, that implies that I can use this media where I want; laptop, iphone, etc. It can be DRM'ed since I am just "renting" it for the monthly fee but I want it to work everywhere.
Realizing that my DVD's are pretty much ready for the recycling bin in the HD era makes me realize that there isn't any purpose in buying movies again in the new format. I just use netflix for everything. With a "netflix for music", I'd probably use it for all of my music needs.
Frankly, I don't think streaming music services target the "vinyl" crowd as their primary demographic. Much like you don't see many tube iPod amps in the normal person's home (yes, I know they exist). However, for the rest of us ... | |
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join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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| Re: Streaming Music service = no more music collections! Actually, a Rhapsody for movies would be nice... Netflix streaming selection pales in comparison to Rhapsody's music collection 
...Get Rhapsody "to go" and a compatible player (I have a Sansa Fuze, which also plays FLAC files), and you probably won't regret it. Only thing is that their catalog still lacks some key artists (Beatles, Tool, Led Zeppelin [though you can purchase Zep now]).
It's nice to have a huge library of tunes that I don't have to store/maintain, and can be played from any PC with a decent internet connection (even 256kbps works...). Also awesome to put tons of music on the Fuze and not worry about needing to pay $1+/song
I also collect vinyl, and will vouch for how much it sucks when Rhapsody removes things from their catalog. Not their fault though; it's up to the artist/label/rights holder, and Rhapsody must comply...
Sometimes it is nice to have a physical piece of music. Vinyl especially  | |
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| | dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by jus10:It can be DRM'ed since I am just "renting" it for the monthly fee but I want it to work everywhere. Thats not how DRM works. DRM is about making you pay for every place you want to have the content.
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| | MSes offering is better. The Zune pass although almost 3x the price is a better offer, they have a lot of music for you to stream or download, they offer it via the web without the software and for every month you have the service you get to choose 10 songs to take with you for keeps!
Combine that with the fact that most providers in the service have gone mp3 its win win.
Over the past few months I've gotten to hear many albums and find out there is a lot of stuff I don't care for but a good number of things I do and I've gotten a bunch of music to keep as well.
If I had a Zune, instead of a broken 6mo old ipod, I could take it all with me too! | |
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| caveat: If they don't choose my format for me or cap it at crappy 128bit mp3/wma and let me choose the player and where I can listen to it (Hulu on PC browser= OK, mobile browser=bad?), 5.00 is low enough for me to say "OK" and not scream and rant about the Comcast becoming RIAA's security guard.
::Rant:: Of course they'll then (they being RIAA / Comcast or other ISP) need to check what you are streaming to be sure it's from an approved server source. Then bandwidth will increase as usage goes up because it's easier, so the quality will get dialed back a la digital channels and we'll be using digital surround sound speakers to listen tinny MP3s. ::/Rant:: | |
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join:2005-03-19 | linux will it work on linux?? | |
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join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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1 edit | Re: linux Who knows. If they're talking about offering Rhapsody at a discounted rate, then yes... sort of... their full client doesn't run natively on Linux, but the web based service still claims to
»www.real.com/rhapsody/linux/sysr···dy_linux
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AFIK, Rhapsody is the only service that claims to support Linux, Mac, and Microsoft bases systems. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Napster's $5/month streaming service has a full-featured web client (except for syncing with devices) so it has no problem working on Linux/OS X. | |
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join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | Already Get It With Optimum Online, I already get streaming audio from Music Choice. I believe they do (or did) offer Rhapsody.
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join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
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| iPods So people still have to download music to listen to it on their ipods/portable music devices...
Seems like a joke to me.
Most people download music so they can listen to it on their iPods.
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Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Re: iPods said by Gbcue:So people still have to download music to listen to it on their ipods/portable music devices... Seems like a joke to me. Most people download music so they can listen to it on their iPods. Thanks for finally saying it.
I don't understand the raves. This is only a good deal if you only listen to lots of music on your Comcast-connected computer.
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| I don't. I tend to have a computer with me at all times, and generally have it out when I want to listen to music (except when walking from class to class). A roommate has hooked his monster gaming rig to my TV and another roommate's sound system so while sometimes there will be an iPod hooked up a lot of the time we're streaming tunes of the interwebz. | |
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But useless if I can't put the songs on an mp3 player. | |
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| | Why? I have Pandora et all... Why should I pay $5 for this service. I already have access to Pandora, iheartradio, , public radio, slacker, etc to count towards my cap. They're all ad driven or even free. Why would I pay for this service unless it doesn't count towards my cap? Oh wait, it HAS to count towards my cap. 8-) | |
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join:2009-02-08
Manitowoc, WI
1 edit | no thanks Try it and I will drop you like a hot potato. That is if the fee is mandatory. | |
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| | I prefer the collective licensing idea. You pay a fee as part of your connection cost and you can exchange and trade as you desire using the software and formats that you desire.
I can't understand why so many people were so angrily opposed to that but they don't mind the idea of temporarily renting music from a service for a similar fee.
With the latter you will probably rent drm encrusted files in the format the provider wants, using the software the provider chooses to grant you, selecting from the content the provider chooses to provide.
How is this superior to paying a licensing fee for the p2p activity of your choice, having access to any content, including content long unavailable and not considered financially viable, using the applications of your choice, trading in the format of your choosing?
I realize that the question of whether it is optional or not is important but I think a lot of it is an emotional response to terms like tax and collective. But lets say the collective licensing arrangement is opt in or out for a particular isp. There are isps that participate and those that don't. I fail to see how paying $5 for a streaming service is acceptable but paying $5 into a collective licensing arrangement is intolerable.
Of course the industry would love to get us all into a rental arrangement where they maintain all the control they have today while we provide them with a predictable and perpetual revenue stream. | |
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | Napster How is this better than Napster at $5.00 month? Well, I guess you have to pay $60.00 upfront to Napster for a year's worth of music, whereas this is $5.00/month. But, at least with Napster you get to choose your songs and you get 5 free downloads a month (although with Replay Music it probab;y doesn't matter as much).
But pay for streaming radio?? | |
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| | Yet another Concast service to go against your cap Here we go again... another paid service from Concast if you actually use it it goes against your cap. | |
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| | $5 a month... Just another fee! Optional... "Just say NO!"
Just another fee/charge to add to my already bloated COMCAST bill.
I already pay $8-$10 in "fees"
-FCC fee
-State sales tax
-City sales tax
-Franchise fee
Internet
-State sales tax
-City sales tax
How much more "Fine print" do we need to read?
Come on COMCAST!!!
Not everyone can afford a $100 triple play!! | |
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Uhmmmm Didn't they do this via music choice a while back? only for FREE for its customers?
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join:2002-03-31
Seattle, WA | Meh... I'll stick to my XM Radio and iPod thanks. | |
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 VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | Comcast seems more and more intent on adding more services online for their users
It may not be long before their 250gig cap is hit by more and more of their consumers | |
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Streaming Music service = no more music collections!
I do not think turning all future music reproduction systems into a Juke Box with pay per play either ala carte or via term subscriptions is in consumers best interest. Gone will be the ability to collect music on a permanent media like Vinyl, Cassette or CD. What happens when you favorite song is removed from the streamers play list because it is not generating sufficient revenue. This method of selling a music performances will be far worse for consumers, then that that caused by format filtering when the music industry begins offering music performances on a new format like the change from Vinyl Records to Compact Discs. The music industry did not release all performances recorded on the Vinyl Format on the Compact Disc Format. I have many favorite songs that were recorded on vinyl that were never recorded on CD. I still maintain a turntable in my music system so that I can continue to play them.
