  baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Whoa Thats alotta pepperonni! | |
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| | Too Expensive Prices in the US for Cable TV and Mobile broadband are extremely inflated.
For your average person who prefers to stay out of debt, its an impossible expense to justify. | |
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 |  tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | Re: Too Expensive And yet you are still here  | |
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| | | | Re: Too Expensive I don't get it?
I don't have Cable TV or Mobile broadband. | |
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
 ·Comcast
| Re: Too Expensive I know that, but based on your numerous posts in this forum, many might believe that cable vampire Brian Roberts was personally sucking the lifeblood from your wallet/system.
Like many nonesscential services available to consumers today cable offers a varity of plans at different price points which consumers can CHOOSE to buy or not. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Too Expensive Or get charged 10 dollars more for broadband when we "choose" not to buy it.
The point is they will simply charge even more for broadband, since for many its a necessity. | |
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| | | | | tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | Re: Too Expensive Amazing a company in business to make money, decides to charge the nationally competitive rate for a highly desirable product.
Since they add over a million new HSI customers a year it appears that most people find it a worthwhile value. | |
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| | | | | baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI Reviews:
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 ·magicjack.com
1 edit | said by DataRiker:Or get charged 10 dollars more for broadband when we "choose" not to buy it.
The point is they will simply charge even more for broadband, since for many its a necessity.
Every line of business "bundles"
Buy 2 cans of green beans, get the third free
Buy 1 t-shirt, get the other half off
Get home AND auto insurance, get a discount
This is common practice for any company to do. Get more from us, pay less per item.
I wish then instead of complaining in every post, or comparing our infastructure to Korea or wherever the hell you lived, you supplied some hard facts. Broadband is NOT a neccessity, as a good chunk of US, and half the world, still do not have access at all (and a percentage that do still have dial up only).
Just because its a necessity for YOU, doesnt mean its for EVERYONE. Its a consumeristic item, and therefore you pay to use it. Just because you may not like pricing structure doesnt give you any leverage that it should be free to the world.
Here are the necessities in life: Food, water, shelter. | |
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| | | | | |  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Too Expensive said by baineschile:said by DataRiker:Or get charged 10 dollars more for broadband when we "choose" not to buy it.
The point is they will simply charge even more for broadband, since for many its a necessity.
Every line of business "bundles" Buy 2 cans of green beans, get the third free Buy 1 t-shirt, get the other half off Get home AND auto insurance, get a discount This is common practice for any company to do. Get more from us, pay less per item. EXCEPT thes ecompanies do not charge extra for people that have TV only and no internet. So no it's not really a bundling "discount". So if they want to do business that way that's their right but call it what it is, a price INCREASE not a DISCOUNT for bundling. | |
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| | | | | | | tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: Too Expensive said by BF69: EXCEPT thes ecompanies do not charge extra for people that have TV only and no internet. So no it's not really a bundling "discount". So if they want to do business that way that's their right but call it what it is, a price INCREASE not a DISCOUNT for bundling.
Apparently Rikker has managed to confuse you.
You get the discount for TV AND another service
So TV only =no discount
HSI only = No discount
phone only = no discount
TV + any other service = DISCOUNT!
It's quite simple really. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Too Expensive said by tshirt:said by BF69: EXCEPT thes ecompanies do not charge extra for people that have TV only and no internet. So no it's not really a bundling "discount". So if they want to do business that way that's their right but call it what it is, a price INCREASE not a DISCOUNT for bundling.
Apparently Rikker has managed to confuse you. You get the discount for TV AND another service So TV only =no discount HSI only = No discount phone only = no discount TV + any other service = DISCOUNT! It's quite simple really. Yeah it's simple it's price increase.
TV alone same price as TV with internet
Internet alone $10 more than internet with TV.
What about that is confusing you? | |
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| | | | | | | | | tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: Too Expensive said by BF69:What about that is confusing you?
Not a thing, would you feel better if they took the same $10 of the TV? or $5 off each?
It's $10 total either way. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Too Expensive said by tshirt:said by BF69:What about that is confusing you?
Not a thing, would you feel better if they took the same $10 of the TV? or $5 off each? It's $10 total either way. Yes I would feel better if they charged TV only customers $10 more. Then it would be fair and they could HONESTLY say you get a "bundling discount". If they are going to be sneaky and deceitful about this what else are they going to be sneaky and deceitful about? | |
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| | | | | | | | | tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: Too Expensive This isn't charging MORE this is a discount for having 2 or more services.
the website doesn't say "$59 UNLESS you are a cheap bastard, than it's $10 more"
it says "$59", and if you take the second service it gives you a $10 discount for MULTISERVICE.
I'd hate to be near you at a fastfood joint, you'd freak over a "full meal deal" | |
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| | | | |  Oh_NoTrogglus normalus
join:2011-05-21
Chicago, IL | said by DataRiker:Or get charged 10 dollars more for broadband when we "choose" not to buy it.
The point is they will simply charge even more for broadband, since for many its a necessity.
... and broadband has much lower costs than TV service and with internet they keep all the profit, they do not have to share money with content providers.
Comcast makes a fortune for selling internet at $50 and much lower profit on TV for $50. | |
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kaila
join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL | Time for Comcast to set power to 'Cruise' and enjoy the revenue. The video losses, while trending, will be able to be absorbed for a while. Rate hike season will be here before you know it, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see an UBB overage fee, or some other broadband focused fee or new revenue stream.
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Jeff's Blog - »www.ostjournal.net | |
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| $$$? So, what's the damage for basic cable with comcast these days?
feel free to quote stand-alone and bundle prices
IMO, even in the anti-competitive world of the AT&T/Comast duopoly there is an evolution of the video business model.. probably because it costs the *MOST* money in this region.
Even satellite tv providers both saw rate increases in the past year. Then Ohio & Tennessee go ahead & shoot subscribers with taxes. | |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD |  Odd
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| | | Re: Odd said by pnh102:Isn't basic cable and broadband from Comcast the same price as broadband by itself? If I was downgrading, I'd just keep the basic cable.
Prices have changed in my area a little bit, but I know basic cable with internet was $3/mo more and went up to $6/mo more compared to standalone internet (12/2 tier). | |
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| tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
| It's within a few dollars in most areas, for me it's around $3.29 which works for my because $3.29 is about as much as basic tv is worth to me.
I have at times had a higher end package and didn't think it was worth the extra $60-$139 ( after promo price, depending on what package and extra's we tried) to ME, so we went back to basic with HULU+ (limited use, this may go away soon) and netflix, which fits us fine.
Others I know think they NEED every, possible channel, with every DVR + every other thing available.
I'd rather spend the extra $1200 a year (average) on a weekend getaway or some other form of entertainment, life on the couch is overrated IMHO. | |
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| | pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Re: Odd A few months ago when Comcast last raised their price on me I told them flat out either they give me a better deal or I am canceling the TV portion of my service. To my surprise they actually gave me a decent deal. I'll most likely go your route if they do not continue that rate.
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| |  GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | I don't think we necessarily need every service. But, we like having he various channels, etc. at our disposal. Our bill is about $250.00/yr for 50/10 internet and a couple of HD-DVRs, 3DTAs and HBO. I can't remember what else we have.
Anyway, it's kind of worth it for us, even though we don't watch that much TV at home. I could do with just the internet, but we like the options. | |
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:4 Reviews:
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| Re: Odd said by Goober:I don't think we necessarily need every service. But, we like having he various channels, etc. at our disposal. Our bill is about $250.00/yr for 50/10 internet and a couple of HD-DVRs, 3DTAs and HBO. I can't remember what else we have.
$250 a month I would believe. But $250 a year is roughly $20 a month. For 50 mb/s Internet + a reasonable TV channel package? The best introductory cable offer I have seen from Comcast was $19 a month for Internet, when bundled with a TV package worth about $30 a month; total of $49 a month. And only for six months.
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | Re: Odd Typo. It's $250/month. | |
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| | Where are the disappearing basic cable customers going to? So where exactly are the disappearing basic cable customers going to? Satellite? AT&T/Verizon...? or just dropping back to free TV?
Free TV offers a lot more channels now with the switch to digital... | |
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| | | Re: Where are the disappearing basic cable customers going to? Majority are turning to dish or telcos tv, and a small but growing percentage is either never signing up for cable tv(kids straight out of college) or cutting the cord out right.
The pie of people willing to pay for video services is slowly shrinking, so far cable is making it up by increasing data connections. | |
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| Except that the coverage area has actually gone down with the switch.
A UHF signal (which is what a digital signal is) has a smaller radiated coverage area than a VHF signal. I have a non-QAM HDTV tuner card that I can no longer use due to the severe falloff in signal strength - and that is even with most of the converted stations having a *higher* transmitter rating than they did for VHF. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Where are the disappearing basic cable customers going to? said by PGHammer:Except that the coverage area has actually gone down with the switch.
A UHF signal (which is what a digital signal is) has a smaller radiated coverage area than a VHF signal. I have a non-QAM HDTV tuner card that I can no longer use due to the severe falloff in signal strength - and that is even with most of the converted stations having a *higher* transmitter rating than they did for VHF.
If you're talking OTA you shouldn't have any issues getting in OTA signals assuming your stated location of Accokeek, MD is correct. | |
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| | pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | said by PGHammer:A UHF signal (which is what a digital signal is) has a smaller radiated coverage area than a VHF signal. I have a non-QAM HDTV tuner card that I can no longer use due to the severe falloff in signal strength - and that is even with most of the converted stations having a *higher* transmitter rating than they did for VHF. I take an interest in your plight for purely selfish reasons because I keep pondering putting up an antenna. Have you tried using one of those "digital signal amplifiers?"
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by PastTense:So where exactly are the disappearing basic cable customers going to? Cord cutting.
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Oh YES! let me drop everything i'm doing regardless of who it affects to deal with your petty little problem! | |
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| |  espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
 ·Clear Wireless
| Re: Where are the disappearing basic cable customers going to? said by dvd536:said by PastTense:So where exactly are the disappearing basic cable customers going to? Cord cutting. It can't be all cord cutting.
Numbers showing gains for TelcoTV (FiOS TV/U-verse) and satellite more than offset the losses in basic cable subs.
The rate at which PayTV subscribers is growing is definitely slowing down, but the point still remains that quarter after quarter there is a growing number of people paying for TV.
When those numbers start going negative, then you can start calling for cord cutting. | |
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| | They got their foot in the door... Earlier this year, Comcast raised prices for the internet service itself (probably to recover the cost of D3 equipment upgrades). Now that they know they can raise prices on the service itself, we will probably see annual price increases for internet as well. Their competitors do it, and as we all know, in Duopolyland every company follows what the other one is doing. | |
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| Re: They got their foot in the door... said by rate_hike :Earlier this year, Comcast raised prices for the internet service itself (probably to recover the cost of D3 equipment upgrades). Now that they know they can raise prices on the service itself, we will probably see annual price increases for internet as well. Their competitors do it, and as we all know, in Duopolyland every company follows what the other one is doing.
What's the ratio of you who bent over to pay $5 a gallon of gasoline? How many of you said NO, and actually DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT! This day of reckoning is coming.. how much apathy still lies in (post 2001) consumerism. At some point you will have to tell the duopoly to go to hell and rig up your own tin cans and string! | |
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| | | | Re: They got their foot in the door... said by tmc8080 :What's the ratio of you who bent over to pay $5 a gallon of gasoline? How many of you said NO, and actually DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT! This day of reckoning is coming.. how much apathy still lies in (post 2001) consumerism. At some point you will have to tell the duopoly to go to hell and rig up your own tin cans and string! Consumers have two choices. They can put up with it or go without. In the case of high gas prices, the consumer can pay the high price for gas, or walk/ride a bike. They could ride the bus, but then they wind up still supporting the oil companies and their high gas prices.
Things are almost the same with internet in that the consumer can put up with the duopoly, get bent over by the alternative service providers (cellular, sat, etc.) that offer worse service than the duopoly(high cost, low speed, low caps), get dial-up(really?), or go without internet. They could leech free wi-fi or go to the library, but then they wind up still supporting the duopoly. Tin can and string is impractical in this day and age, not to mention non code compliant.  (I can see it now..."Your string isn't grounded and bonded at the demarc.") Consumers can lobby their local government to consider building a muni network, but the incumbent(s) pay good money to run that into the ground.
But in all fairness, I am happy with the internet I get from Comcast. It is made better by the fact that U-Verse is available here. I'm just worried that there is only a perceived illusion of competition. After all, true competition lowers the prices, not raises them. | |
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