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Comcast Makes Upstream Speed Boost Official
384kbps to 1Mbps, and 768kbps becomes 2Mbps...

Last week a Comcast insider told me that Comcast would be boosting the upstream speeds for their Performance and Performance Plus tiers to 1Mbps and 2Mbps respectively, at no cost. While some users in competitive markets had already seen this upgrade, the insider stated that the company would be expanding it to the majority of its customers this week. Right on schedule, Comcast this morning made the upstream upgrades official with a press release. Comcast customers who haven't seen the upgrade yet may need to powercycle their modems.

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grydlok
join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA

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Pass this along

I have some friends who have jabcast. I'll let them know.

Cabal
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join:2007-01-21

Cabal

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Re: Pass this along

Looking good here!

smokarz
join:2006-07-24
West Hartford, CT

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any ftp site for testing?

so does anyone know of a fast reliable ftp site that i can test this NEW upload speed? thanks

Robert
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join:2001-08-25
Miami, FL

Robert

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Provision Rates

The actual provision rates is 1100 for the 6mb and 2200 for the 8mb. This allows for any overhead, so the customer should see the advertised upload, if not more (thanks to powerboost).

Unlike some ISPs who provision a 1mb upload at exactly 1000, Comcast went above that (like they do with their download).

FFH5
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ

FFH5

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Re: Provision Rates

Since 2002, I have paid the same $42.95 for Comcast svc and I have gotten a half dozen speed increases without paying any more. Sounds like a good deal to me. But I am sure there are plenty who will still complain that they are getting ripped off.
bshelly
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join:2002-02-17
Conover, NC

bshelly

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Re: Provision Rates

Looks like Blast! doesn't have that much of an advantage now for those of us who need upstream speed. The only reason I decided to upgrade from Perf. Plus to Blast! was for the 2mb upload. I don't need 16mb down for the price difference they charge us in the Chicago area. Looks like I'm going to call and downgrade to save some money for gas.
niplet
join:2003-10-04
Nashville, TN

niplet

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Re: Provision Rates

if $10's is going to significanty help you with your purchasing of gasoline, then you have bigger problems than a price difference for your internet speed packages.
the $10 difference for me is = to just one trip to work and back. Gas sucks, especially now that it is closing in in some areas to $5 or even higher. if it equaled a tank of gas, the internet would be gone, but $10 seems a little insignificant.

Robert
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join:2001-08-25
Miami, FL

Robert to FFH5

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said by FFH5:

Since 2002, I have paid the same $42.95 for Comcast svc and I have gotten a half dozen speed increases without paying any more. Sounds like a good deal to me. But I am sure there are plenty who will still complain that they are getting ripped off.
Well, you could say that the rate increases on the cable tv (at least 2 rate increases per year in my area) subsidizes the Internet cost and keeps it down.

FFH5
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Tavistock NJ

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Re: Provision Rates

said by Robert:
said by FFH5:

Since 2002, I have paid the same $42.95 for Comcast svc and I have gotten a half dozen speed increases without paying any more. Sounds like a good deal to me. But I am sure there are plenty who will still complain that they are getting ripped off.
Well, you could say that the rate increases on the cable tv (at least 2 rate increases per year in my area) subsidizes the Internet cost and keeps it down.
Of course, that is possible, but unlikely. Most major corporations make each line of business meet separate profit goals and hold their managers responsible to meet them. Short term inducements to conquer new customers(promotion deals) may cross-subsidize, but over time each line of business must meet their own goals.

hdmember
@vitranexpress.com

hdmember

Anon

how long

Does anybody know how long this will be going on? Is it permanent or temporary?

Robert
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join:2001-08-25
Miami, FL

Robert

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Re: how long

said by hdmember :

Does anybody know how long this will be going on? Is it permanent or temporary?
It's permanent.
Rick5
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join:2001-02-06

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Thanks Comcast

The new speeds are great and really kicking some serious a$$ here with powerboost.

(NYC Speakeasy test site)
Last Result:
Download Speed: 31169 kbps (3896.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 2305 kbps (288.1 KB/sec transfer rate)

SterlingJ85
join:2000-11-19
Austin, TX

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Re: Thanks Comcast

I get that plus twice the upload on Optimum Online w/ Boost.. God I am so glad I moved out of Comcast territory.

needforspeed59
Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
La Place, LA

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Cox did this too

At least in AZ. They added it to the upstream for Preferred and Premier. Plus we got a nice speed bump in both directions. The upstream boost is nice. I am glad you Comcast folks are getting it.

CUBS_FAN
2016 World Series Champs
join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL

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Old News

Just when I thought another upgrade was taking place its the upload upgrade I received months ago. It could have been possibly last year

Pv8man999
@wideopenwest.com

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T1

would this make T-1 1.544 Mbps out dated?

Come on T-1 prices, go down, make an economy T-1 package for small business

Robert
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join:2001-08-25
Miami, FL

Robert

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Re: T1

said by Pv8man999 :

would this make T-1 1.544 Mbps out dated?
No. A T1 has many advantages that still make it a much more attractive connection.

SpaethCo
Digital Plumber
MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

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Re: T1

said by Robert:

said by Pv8man999 :

would this make T-1 1.544 Mbps out dated?
No. A T1 has many advantages that still make it a much more attractive connection.
Agree.

The overwhelming majority of T1 circuits in the US are not for Internet access; they are for private Frame/ATM/MPLS connections, TDM voice services, and ISDN PRI for video conferencing. (though this is rapidly being replaced by IP telepresence offerings)

djrobx
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join:2000-05-31
Reno, NV

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Attractive? T1s are outdated dinosaurs in terms of internet connectivity. SLA's are nice and all, but for $300-$500+/month, businesses should be getting faster connections.

Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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Dogfather

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Re: T1

Business requires reliability far more than speed.

For business a single T1 can handle hundreds of users (depending on the type of business).

djrobx
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Reno, NV

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Re: T1

I completely agree that reliability is paramount for a business. But we're quickly getting to a point where 1.5mbps shared across even a small business office is not enough, and for the price, they should be getting more for their money.

Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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Re: T1

It is so long as you keep people working and off You Tube LOL. But yeah, it depends on the business. If you're in a business with a ton of attachments like large PDFs, they'll need a bonded T1.
45612019 (banned)
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY

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to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:

Business requires reliability far more than speed.

For business a single T1 can handle hundreds of users (depending on the type of business).
Reliability, eh? I've had a connection with Time Warner Cable that I leave running constantly working on something.

It has gone down once for an hour in the last year - during a very severe thunderstorm, and 15 minutes during a severe winter storm.

That is pretty damn reliable, and it's not even business class, either.

Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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Re: T1

No it's not reliable. My T1 has gone down, let's see, NEVER. And if it ever did, they have to fix it immediately. And with Time Warner's changing usage policy you will no longer be able to leave it "working" all the time.

I would NEVER trust my business operations to Time Warner residential services. I get to do with my T1 whatever I want...no bull crap caps, no bull crap traffic shaping, no bull crap AUP.
45612019 (banned)
join:2004-02-05
New York, NY

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Re: T1

said by Dogfather:

No it's not reliable. My T1 has gone down, let's see, NEVER. And if it ever did, they have to fix it immediately. And with Time Warner's changing usage policy you will no longer be able to leave it "working" all the time.

I would NEVER trust my business operations to Time Warner residential services. I get to do with my T1 whatever I want...no bull crap caps, no bull crap traffic shaping, no bull crap AUP.
Eh what... Time Warner offers business services... in fact they have a "home business" class here that is $10 more a month that RR Turbo residential service and it is 15/2 Mbps. I was pointing out the fact that I had incredibly reliable residential service, their business service must be even more reliable.

Also I think I could live with my Internet connection going down for an hour once a year that runs at 15 Mbps instead of having a connection that never goes down but runs at 1.5 Mbps and is ten times more expensive.

I also don't know what you're talking about with caps... Time Warner has no caps, at least not yet. If that shit they're trialing in Texas is successful and they implement in on their entire network I'll agree with you, but for now Time Warner Business class is a much better deal than T1. They also do not traffic shape.

I have downloaded over 1 TB in a month from Time Warner Cable before and they never gave a shit. That's residential too... I can't imagine them being more strict with a business class connection.

Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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Re: T1

Again, the prices and speeds you quote are residential/home office, not true business.

If you want an SLA, multiple static IPs, and decent upload speeds you pay through the nose with Time Warner.

I don't know about your market but in my market the tier pricing was similar to New York. The Los Angeles TWC site no longer quotes prices; but here are prices for the NY area and these look about to be what I was quoted a while back.

Pricing for Hudson Valley area dynamic IP plans
Bandwidth Options Downstream/Upstream Price
Tier 1 1 Mbps/256 Kbps $99.95
Tier 2 2 Mbps/384 Kbps $129.95
Tier 3 1.5 Mbps/768 Kbps $149.95
Tier 4 4 Mbps/384 Kbps $179.95
Tier 5 3 Mbps/768 Kbps $219.95
Tier 6 1.5 Mbps/1.5 Mbps $399.95
Tier 7 8 Mbps/2 Mbps $529.95

At the time I talked to them, right when they rolled out 15/2 here in Huntington Beach, they offered 15/2 for home office only and maxed at 10/2 for actual businesses and it was a total rip off. I don't remember exactly what it was but I could almost get a bonded T1 (which while slower was guaranteed bandwith) for that price. What was worse is that throughput was not guaranteed at all. They were quoting me typical "up to" speeds whereas my T1 has guaranteed throughput.

I pay $359 and get 13 static IPs, a free $800-$900 Netopia 4622XL router, GUARANTEED bandwidth and a very good SLA. Also I have the option for reasonably priced fully managed security. TWC Biz didn't offer those extra service options.

TWC Business is fine if yer a dentist or mom & pop video store but not if you actually rely on your connectivity. TWC Biz is more a competitor to business ADSL and SDSL than T1/T3 services. Business DSL for 7Mb in our local market runs about $120/mo with Verizon and for 6Mb with AT&T about $65/mo, WAY cheaper than Time Warner Business.

aaronwt
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Woodbridge, VA
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to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:

Business requires reliability far more than speed.

For business a single T1 can handle hundreds of users (depending on the type of business).
T1 speed is only 1.54mps. Way too slow for businesses with dozens of employees sending emails, CAD drawings, etc on a regular basis. I have the 50mbs down/20mbs up tier with FIOS at home and I can't wait until they upgrade to something faster.
MightyPez
join:2002-05-01
Saint Paul, MN

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said by Pv8man999 :

would this make T-1 1.544 Mbps out dated?

Very Doubtful. I manage the network of 3 offices located in different places. The main office has a T1, one of the remotes has a T1, and one uses Comcast high speed business.

The location on Comcast uses an IPSEC tunnel for basic packet encryption because all of the users are either on a software VPN or dial in to the terminal server. There are good days and bad days. On good days users may get dropped once or twice. On bad days, we will see hours of no or extremely poor service.

It's faster than a T1, yes, but we have to deal with the above mentioned problems.

Dogfather
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T1s are more reliable and are dedicated circuits.

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

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Re: T1

said by Dogfather:

T1s are more reliable and are dedicated circuits.
Don't forget the SLAs!

Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

Dogfather

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Re: T1

Yep, not going to get this »www.megapath.net/pdfs/se ··· nces.pdf with residential service.
celloville
join:2008-06-12
Little Rock, AR

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cause of my problems

I wonder if this might be contributing to the cause of my recent problems. I live in Little Rock, AR and recently have had two different techs out to address upwards of 68% packet loss (especially after 7pm). Both times the tech referred the issue to maintenance. They say I'm fine on the downlink but high in errors on the uplink.

banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
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join:2001-08-18
Frisco, TX

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Still don't have it...

I'm on the 6/384 package, and still not seeing the new upload speeds in Naples, FL. Have been power-cycling for days, just did it again to no avail. Stuck at 384 (speed tests are actually registering about 320-330). I never see Powerboost on the upload either, only on the download.

Anyone else in Naples in the same boat? Or is this indicative of a problem I should contact Comcast about?

gate1975mlm
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join:2001-09-30
Philadelphia, PA

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Upload no faster for me!

Am I missing something???

I have the 16/2 package

I just did some speed tests and I never get faster then 1585K Upload.

Where is my 2000 upload??

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Bytezboy
join:2001-05-17
New York, NY

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time warner should take a clue

They're still stuck with 512kbit upload on their standard plans.

AnonDude53245
@comcast.net

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Got It

I got it here in west GA. FInally.


baineschile11
@comcast.net

baineschile11

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16/2 powerboos stats



»www.speedtest.net/result ··· 7194.png

new 16/2 here in MICHIGAN
hadirtyJlo
join:2004-03-31
Elk Grove, CA

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:)

My 8/1 service out in Huntsville, AL got boosted the other day to 2Mbps, had to remotely reboot the modem, that was fun since I was remotely connecting from CA and didn't know if the modem would pull the same IP as before . The connection here just south of Sacramento got it's boost up to 1Mbps as well last week.

tomas316
@lmco.com

tomas316

Anon

t1 vs cable..

The difference between a t1 and cable is that you get a Service Level Agreement with a t1. Where as Cable is more than likely best effort...

EG
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join:2006-11-18
Union, NJ

EG

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Re: t1 vs cable..

I'll echo that...

Jovi
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join:2000-02-24
Mount Joy, PA

Jovi

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Same old speed

Nothing new after power cycling modem.

Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL

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Cheese

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Hmmm? I have powercycled twice already



But my uploads are hovering around 80-90k

Also browsing seems slow

fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
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join:2005-07-01
Palm Springs, CA

fuziwuzi

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Not here yet

I've powercycled the modem, but my speed results are no different than the 6/384 I've been getting, with powerboost.


Asterix
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join:2002-09-18
Nazareth, PA

Asterix

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Re: Not here yet

I had speeds of 15/1.5. After recycling my modem last night my speeds first crashed to 1/1.5 and then got boosted to 25/1.5. Yeah that's 25Mbps download but still 1.5Mbps upload.

theelviscerator
join:2000-11-16
Elkhart, IN

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superboosted



It helps when you run your own cable I think....

One of the fastest tests in all of comcast....
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