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Comcast: NYC, LA Will Get X1 a Year After Merger
by Karl Bode 07:59AM Tuesday May 06 2014
Comcast is promising regulators and the public that acquired Time Warner Cable customers in Los Angeles and New York will get the company's new X1 set top box within a year of being acquired. "We'll be within the first markets in a year," Neil Smit, president and chief executive of Comcast's cable unit, tells Reuters. In addition to the set tops, Comcast is promising to deliver "considerably higher Internet speeds to Time Warner Cable customers" in those cities. That shouldn't be that hard; Time Warner Cable is already targeting NYC and LA as locations for the company's new "Maxx" upgrades, which aimed to provide faster broadband speeds and improved TV services. The timing for other markets has long been less certain.

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OSUGoose

join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH

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Meanwhile

Those of us Comcast considers the black sheep of the flock will get pawned off to Charter. We get it, you didn't want us back when you ended the Insight/Comcast joint venture, and now you dont want us again.

Please someone kill this merger, I want to stay TWC! (did that just come out my mouth?)
Matt7

join:2001-01-02
Columbus, OH

Re: Meanwhile


yep - us folks who end up in Charter's hands will just be the same turd with a new polish. Looking over in the 'Charter' forums heck their upstream is worse than TWC -- their highest tier has a 4 mb upstream at least TWC offers 5.

OSUGoose

join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH

Re: Meanwhile

In columbus we'll be left with Coa/Ins/TW/Charter who will be worse the Insight was, or WOW! which is worse than Charter is already (if possible).

I'm not counting U-Verse since its not 100% like WOW! is, nor Satellite.

If this is not reason, locally, to reject the merger and/or farming us out to Charter (make Comcast keep us as a condition of approving the merger locally) then I dont know what is.
jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

Re: Meanwhile

I've read great reviews of WoW relative to TWC in Columbus.
etaadmin

join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1
Becoming part of Charter was my concern too, I always thought that this merger should be left alone and pass with NO restrictions in terms of number of subscribers.

The courts already stroked down the number of subscribers allowed, comcast is divesting these people just to make this deal more attractive.

I would like to see this merger go trough without any restrictions.

OSUGoose

join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH

Re: Meanwhile

I'd be ok with that, if ONLY there was no divesting.
etaadmin

join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1

Re: Meanwhile

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MDA

join:2013-09-10
Minneapolis, MN
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said by OSUGoose:

I'd be ok with that, if ONLY there was no divesting.

It'd be even worse if a company wasn't force to divest because that's how you control the media.

The 30% rule is all we have left standing against total domination. Lol

I'm not happy with having the obligation to be divested to the spinoff company (SpinCo. Clever name...) that is also a part of the merger, but if you think about it, this will give the spinoff company and the smaller cable company a chance against the big guys.

In networking, its best to be connected to the biggest network you can acquire (least possibility of saturation) and in my state that is Comcast. It's a bear of a situation that it works that way and doesn't agree with the side of more competition, but that's the only reason I speculate the merger.

The big picture is that we need more competition, no doubt. So I would say that divesting is always a positive thing in the long run.

OSUGoose

join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH

Re: Meanwhile

No its not, you've not been on the loosing end of a divesture or merger. This will make the 4th name the cable company here has been called. Coaxial --> Insight ---> TWC --->???

MDA

join:2013-09-10
Minneapolis, MN
Reviews:
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Re: Meanwhile

said by OSUGoose:

No its not, you've not been on the loosing end of a divesture or merger. This will make the 4th name the cable company here has been called. Coaxial --> Insight ---> TWC --->???

Your state's luck I guess? change is good. Its better than the big roach that is comcast in my backyard.

While we all want fiber, who will pay those costs? We need a movement to stick it to cable companies and start "innovating". I'm not a leader, so I don't know where to start, but if anything was uprising, I would be all for involved with it.

You hear all this news about what lobbyists are doing next for the merger and its just as bad as two kids framing another kid in school to get their point across. Its a big fat issue of "look who's hurting me" but the kid getting hurt is doing nothing.
jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA
Coaxial was only on the East side though, I remember "Warner Cable" back in the 70s on the West side of the city as a child.

chip89
Premium
join:2012-07-05
Independence, OH
I'm on WOW & still don't want TWC to become the crap called Charter!
ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20
Cleveland, OH
The thing is though, there isn't much to kill the merger on. It's not going to really change anything in terms of the playing field. It's not eliminating any choices for customers.

What should have been killed regarding mergers by the FCC is the "shared services" BS that the locals pull when one wants to close they sell out to another local and just basically broadcast the same stuff except the national content. That eliminations an option.
jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

Re: Meanwhile

It has an effect on the nation level though where Comcast would gain even more power. That's the way that one has to look at it and the way that those who professional speak out against it have presented it.

mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
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nothing is going to change. I've been from dimension to cox to tci to att to Comcast. NOTHING CHANGED just the names on the boxes, bills, trucks and buildings.
They added more channels, services and speed.
When Comcast took over for att nothing was dropped.

I'm sure those of us on Comcast with 105 down or whatever will keep it with charter. They are taking over the plant not gutting it and starting over.

You might lose a channel if that channel doesn't have an agreement with charter or an agreement to be carried in former time warner or Comcast areas on charter.

They would have so many ticked off customers if they downgraded your services or speeds when they took over for time warner. Just hoping Comcast comes to an agreement to let charter use their x1 platform so I can keep my x1 box.
danielholt

join:2013-04-22
Wake Forest, NC

Tired of hearing about NYC and LA

TWC are beating this NYC and LA horse til it bleeds out, what are they doing about the rest of their markets, nothing??? In Raleigh, we will soon have several FTTH providers to choose from, so Comcast and TWC can take all the time they want, just as long as they know when they finally do get their stuff together here, that they'll be even more less welcome when their "new" products arrive, years after being launched in other markets.

MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

Re: Tired of hearing about NYC and LA

However, don't underestimate "if we don't have it, you can't have it" mentality. They will try to sabotage those ftth providers.
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etaadmin

join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1
said by danielholt:

In Raleigh, we will soon have several FTTH providers to choose from

Then you have options and therefore competition one of the key points in this merger.

said by danielholt:

TWC are beating this NYC and LA horse til it bleeds out, what are they doing about the rest of their markets, nothing???

As for what they are doing in other markets, they are doing 'something' as many of us have 8 downstream and 4 upstream bonded channels. Even in many small areas they have bonded downstream channels. My Mom lives in a small area in Texas and she has 6 downstream.

Why would they have bonded channels if they are not planning to use them?
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY

Re: Tired of hearing about NYC and LA

It makes load balancing easier. They can spread load versus dedicating D2 channels. I think that is a good thing, because the customer experience is better during prime periods.
en103

join:2011-05-02
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NYC / LA are the 2 largest markets - so why wouldn't they. The rest of the country is 'the flyover' locations to them.

This was AT&T Broadband --> Comcast --> TWC (current) --> Comcast.
Just like all of the companies that exist today - go where there's a LOT of people with a LOT of money. SoCal (L.A.) is effectively 15 million people, and is Hollywood (media capital). NYC is 8.5 million (5 burroughs), and 19 million in the MSA.

Those 2 areas combined are more than 10% of the US population in generally affluent markets.
CJ90006

join:2004-10-05
Los Angeles, CA

Re: Tired of hearing about NYC and LA

+1 LA and NYC are the 2 largest cities in this country. Of course they need to concentrate here first!

mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
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I went from dimension/times mirror to cox (which had to sell us to tci because they owned wpxi out of Pittsburgh) to tci to att broadband to Comcast and now possibly to charter.
As long as we can keep our x1 boxes I will be happy. Charter offers over 200 hd channels plus hdnet and boomerang. Comcast might not offer over 200 hd channels for at least 2 years. They only offer the main hd premium channels not the sub channels because they claim we don't need channels like encore kidz hd or whatever because of on-demand.
jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA
Heh, I'm in "LA" and I have FiOS. Don't want Charter or TWC; had both of them in the past, and they're both here.

ArkhmAsylm
Evrythng I need isn't really what I want

join:2006-02-22
Saint Paul, MN

Money for nothing...

Obviously, they are pandering to the largest common denominator - waving a tasty treat in front of the biggest cash store.

"But, I'll be bigger...and bigger is better, baby!"

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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America

there's always a catch

"faster broadband speeds *(WITH CAPS, which never seem to increase much, the lust for overage charges, nearly forced bundling, and whatever other chicanery)* and improved TV services"
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY

Re: there's always a catch

Has Comcast ever increased it's cap? I don't know the answer but I thought it was always 300GB.
djoropallo

join:2003-10-20
Maple Shade, NJ

Re: there's always a catch

said by elefante72:

Has Comcast ever increased it's cap? I don't know the answer but I thought it was always 300GB.

It says 250GB on my account but it is suspended for now, they will probably turn it on after they get what they want.
etaadmin

join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1
Maybe CAPS is a good area for improvement? As part of the deal there should be a condition to get rid of caps altogether.

That would force all the rest of the ISPs to follow Comcast's example.

atcotr

@65.60.144.x

Fishy

This reminds me of the style of interaction that bad salesmen and boyfriends get into when desperately seeking a sale/sex. It's all about saying what ever it takes to get the other person to say yes, even if it's not true.

In a competitive cable market, companies would have to deploy current TV boxes or watch their customers leave for an alternative. This is really absurd. Just imagine if Adidas had a local monopoly and promised to stop selling shoes with shoelaces that fall apart after 3 months if they are allowed to consolidate their market position further by buying out a competitor.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
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Re: Fishy

I bet somebody (lawyers, probably) are cooking up a compromise deal.. such as Comcast getting the prime cuts such as Manhattan in NYC, and Los Angeles-- without taking the secondary cuts of beef (outer boroughs/suburbs in the case of LA county).

Maybe this is why Cablevision is being so quiet about doing anything recently.. If they could be the monopoly provider for the outer-boroughs for NYC, that's a huge feather in their cap.

Not that I like this idea, but lots of money could actually push something along these lines through whether people like it or not. (also, chock full of lots of other divestitures & and empty promises they have no intention of keeping, which follows in the footsteps of AT&T, VERIZON and CenturyTel).

The boxes are a smoke screen. Boxes are just another way to make money and justify a franchise fee for traditional cable-tv service. Once TV goes the IP way and not based on channels- you don't have a requirement for franchise rights. You don't currently see a franchise fee tacked onto a Netflix subscription (Hmm... with voip fees going up across the country, this MIGHT be next)

mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
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·Frontier Communi..
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Re: Fishy

franchise fees pay for services. My city is considering an franchise fee that will generate over $500k a year. I'm trying to put a bug in their ear to start a community access channel and use it for good things. They want to use it for street paving which is that even allowed to use a franchise fee for paving?

hbo kid

@24.3.138.x

"promises"

Promises are not a commitment, legally, a promise can be broken!

Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Comcast

Hmm

This is going to cost Comcast a fortune to redesign all the Time Warner trucks, retrain all the Time Warner employees, give them all new uniforms and proper equipment, and forceably replace all the Time Warner branded equipment in customers homes with Xfinity branded gear. Only question is how they are going to manipulate their new customers to do so. Maybe they'll make the Time Warner equipment incompatible overnight thus causing mass panic and technician visits for swap outs. I mean before the X1 platform rolls out Comcast is going to want to get their "blue guide" pushed out to everyone and the only way to do that is to put in boxes that either have it or support it and TWC's boxes probably don't.
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