ChiyoSave Me Konata-Chan Premium Member join:2003-02-20 Salisbury, NC |
Chiyo
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2008-Apr-2 7:00 pm
wootWhen can I order? but that price seems way to high! | |
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| Rax Premium Member join:2003-11-13 Floral Park, NY |
Rax
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2008-Apr-2 7:26 pm
Re: wootFios offers 50/20 for $90 so in Fios areas with comcast who is going to get comcast ? LOL | |
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Re: wootI bet the price won't be 150 in areas that have FiOS in their footprint. | |
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| | Dogfather Premium Member join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 1 edit |
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Not everywhere. Here the 30/15Mb FiOS is $140 and that's only with a fat contract. Month-month is $160. | |
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said by Rax:Fios offers 50/20 for $90 so in Fios areas with comcast who is going to get comcast ? LOL yah ok 90$ i highly doubt that, no possible way even if comcast is in that area they still wouldnt offer that... | |
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which means you can only hope to achieve 5/386 for $150 a month... | |
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dadkinsCan you do Blu? MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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$150 per month?Naw... I'll just stay with my 16/2 thanks. | |
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| ChiyoSave Me Konata-Chan Premium Member join:2003-02-20 Salisbury, NC |
Chiyo
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2008-Apr-2 7:02 pm
Re: $150 per month?In Minnesota we will NEVER see FiOS this is the best we have still the price..... WHAT TO DO! | |
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| | dadkinsCan you do Blu? MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA |
Re: $150 per month?said by Chiyo:In Minnesota we will NEVER see FiOS this is the best we have still the price..... WHAT TO DO! Hercules, CA(here) has AT&T DSL(not Uverse) as the only other broadband option. FiOS? Not happening! Comcast was nice enough to hit me with Blast though. $150 is a bit too steep for my wallet for 50/5. | |
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| | kaila join:2000-10-11 Lincolnshire, IL |
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Why? You're in a safe zone for Comcast. They'll be able to tinker with DOCSIS 3 speeds without much consequence for high prices and the inevitable kinks in a new system like this since they are really the only provider pushing higher speeds. | |
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| | Lorcan8 join:2001-03-20 Rosemount, MN |
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Well, I'm not so sure about nobody in MN having that option. Though not state-wide or from Verizon, a company here in Rosemount is finishing up a city-wide FTTH service . We are not in Comcast's service area though, but Charter's. Charter does OK here, IMO, but my sister has had good experiences with HDTV and internet access with the fiber service (she chose the midrange 10mbps/10mbps option) and I think they will absolutely shred Charter to pieces when its all finished this year, especially since the 20Mbps/20Mbps option is only $77/month. I believe they might be offering higher speeds in the future, but I will gladly take 20meg up and down for only $77 . 50 Meg would be nice, but I definitely wouldn't pay $150/month for it, simply because I would prefer to budget my money differently. | |
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Ray53
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2008-Apr-4 1:59 am
Re: $150 per month?I can't believe there will be many takers at that price, perhaps it will come down when the penny drops! | |
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| sapoCruising Down Memory Lane Premium Member join:2002-09-16 Sacramento, CA |
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I would pay for it, kind of a lot for Internet but hey, its speed. | |
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butYup great speed but with their invisible cap & BitTorrent throttling I am sure they will be canceling peoples service due to over using and taking advantage of the new speeds. | |
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| pokesphIt Is Almost Fast Premium Member join:2001-06-25 Sacramento, CA |
pokesph
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2008-Apr-2 7:13 pm
Re: butsaid by Leinie7:Yup great speed but with their invisible cap & BitTorrent throttling I am sure they will be canceling peoples service due to over using and taking advantage of the new speeds. Ditto What's the point if the inferstructure can't handle it. | |
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| | Dogfather Premium Member join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA |
Re: butThe new items mentioned they are upgrading the infrastructure, implementing portions of pre-cert DOCSIS 3. | |
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| | ureihcim3Freshly made join:2007-12-16 Miami, FL |
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That's where 60% of your actual bill will be going too. The rest will be for the bandwidth you used and some profit for them too.
It costs money to offer customers such massive pipes, I not surprised by the prices they offered. I would prefer a 10/10 over a 50/5 though. | |
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| Dogfather Premium Member join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 1 edit |
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With full DOCSIS 3 (which this isn't) they may not have to. The supposed reasoning behind BT throttling is seeders saturating the upstream channels and this new development doesn't fix that. DOCSIS 3 would take a lot of that pressure off. Maybe that is why the price point is so high. They could handle the very few who would buy it. | |
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2008-Apr-2 9:11 pm
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Maybe you should wait and see, I think people will be pleasantly surprised in terms of p2p applications in MN. | |
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| AthlGrond Premium Member join:2002-04-25 Aurora, CO |
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Some additional information on that front: » seattlepi.nwsource.com/b ··· net.htmlquote: The Philadelphia-based company agreed last Thursday to collaborate with BitTorrent Inc. and develop a better system for managing congestion. Comcast has said it must clamp down on heavy users of Internet bandwidth so others won't be slowed down.
Until the new traffic-management system is fully tested and deployed, expected by year's end, Douglas said the faster Comcast service would still be subject to hampering.
"Just because we increase all the roads in Philadelphia to eight-lane highways doesn't mean we can take out all the traffic lights," Douglas said. "It's going to take a little bit of time to get this new system in place."
To which I just have one thing to say: Philadelphia's highways have traffic lights? | |
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justbitsDSL is dead. Long live DSL! Premium Member join:2003-01-08 Chicago, IL |
justbits
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2008-Apr-2 7:13 pm
"Wideband"Wideband download, anemic upload. When are we going to see upload speeds that are significantly more than 10% of the download rate?! | |
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| SpaethCoDigital Plumber MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN |
Re: "Wideband"said by justbits:When are we going to see upload speeds that are significantly more than 10% of the download rate?! When broadband providers start using different physical plant options than what they use now. | |
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| EPS4 join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA |
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Most of the pre-certification stuff out there only has the upload capability of the older version of DOCSIS, without channel bonding- I assume this is the same | |
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Chiyo
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2008-Apr-2 7:26 pm
OrderedI've ordered the new package, I will have it installed on Sunday. New modem and an installation charge also I asked about the current tiers they are being upgraded to 10 and 12 meg. No time frame on that though. | |
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2008-Apr-2 8:09 pm
Re: Orderedsaid by Chiyo:I've ordered the new package, I will have it installed on Sunday. New modem and an installation charge also I asked about the current tiers they are being upgraded to 10 and 12 meg. No time frame on that though. AWESOME man. Please keep us informed in the comcast forum as to how it goes. 150 is steep but 5 bucks a day for those speeds is pretty reasonable I guess. Still..hopefully it will come down to more mainstream prices. GL with the install. and congrats! | |
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Yes, you must post something about it on the Comcast forum once you get it installed. Include pictures of the modem please. | |
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| | | StreetSpiritThis spot reserved for Xenu. Premium Member join:2002-08-13 Roslyn, NY |
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I pay $61.95 for Optimum Online BOOST 30/5 service. $150 for 5mbit upload? You HAVE to be kidding. | |
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dvd536
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2008-Apr-3 6:49 am
Re: Orderedsaid by StreetSpirit:I pay $61.95 for Optimum Online BOOST 30/5 service. $150 for 5mbit upload? You HAVE to be kidding. Well this is in NON FIOS areas. do you honestly think cablevision would be even OFFERING 5mbps upload in non fios areas? i dont think so. | |
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said by justbits:Wideband download, anemic upload. When are we going to see upload speeds that are significantly more than 10% of the download rate?! Don't hold your breath! Anemic upload on rez packages is what is keeping biz on overpriced lucrative biz packages. | |
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SpaethCoDigital Plumber MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN |
Upgrade scheduled for 4/6I'm game, even though I think the $150 price tag is a bit high. | |
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| ChiyoSave Me Konata-Chan Premium Member join:2003-02-20 Salisbury, NC |
Chiyo
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2008-Apr-2 7:36 pm
Re: Upgrade scheduled for 4/6High Fives espaeth lol I agree I wish they'd just offer like 20 / 5 personally but maybe once it takes off. I'm just wondering why the Twin Cities first?
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anonomous
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2008-Apr-2 7:39 pm
IFand I mean IF the Atlanta area is upgraded this year, I hope it is not $150 ! | |
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too little upload..10% upload is really the deal killer for 50/5 at the $150 price-tag. If it's not at least 10-12 megabits upload, they really shouldn't bother. Docsis 3's whole point was to see at least "3" bonded channels, which on an even oversold node is 9 -12 megabits not 5... FYI; even docsis 1.x modems can do 10megabits upload.. if provisioned as such, so that's the starting point.
Verizon for it's part has gotten the message with releasing symmetric tiers... although the pricing is at a premium. 15/ 5-15, 20/20. 30 / 5-20, 50/20. Hopefully, REAL competition and economies of scale (subscriber uptick) will bring down prices.. but don't hold your breath-- it will happen only slowly.. (as in once in a generation..) Another comparable is how long it took to get all you can eat cell phone plans at a headline breaking price point. | |
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Rick5 Premium Member join:2001-02-06 1 edit |
Rick5
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2008-Apr-2 8:04 pm
OMFG...50,000k speeds!! Bring it on here in Ct. (and cut the price in half! ) | |
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Re: OMFG...said by Rick5:50,000k speeds!! Bring it on here in Ct. (and cut the price in half! ) Make the speeds 50/50 for $75.00 per month and bring these speeds to Upstate South Carolina!! With these internet speeds, I would relish the day we can kick Charter and AT&T out of South Carolina for good!! | |
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dude from MPLS
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2008-Apr-2 8:36 pm
Just PowercycledSWEET! I just checked and my upload was bumped from 384 to 1MB speakeasy speedtest says 979 | |
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ztmikeMark for moderation Premium Member join:2001-08-02 La Porte, IN |
ztmike
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2008-Apr-2 8:44 pm
Chicago?Man..Chicago is soo close yet so far..I could use the free upgraded speeds to the 6/384 tier | |
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Rick5
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2008-Apr-2 8:51 pm
Re: Chicago?I doubt it will be very long before it hits there..and many places.
50,000k speeds..the new standard.
20% coverage this year.100% by 2010.
They're moving very quickly on this. | |
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AJD84
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2008-Apr-2 8:50 pm
Wahoo!Just did a power cycle, i live in the Minneapolis area and subscribe to the 6mb tier. My upload went from 384 to 944 | |
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Philadelphia will be last againPhilly will get this in 2012. Of course by then it will be to late. lol | |
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| SolarPupOffice365 Rockstar Premium Member join:2002-03-07 Windsor, CO |
SolarPup
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2008-Apr-6 2:23 pm
Re: Philadelphia will be last againYou would think this would be in philly first since that's where CC's home offices are.. | |
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mig288 Premium Member join:2002-07-13 Cherry Hill, NJ |
mig288
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2008-Apr-2 10:03 pm
comcashThe 50/5 speed is nice. However, the price tag will make people cover their heads under their pillows. Comcast will have to do better than that to compete with FIOS in the NJ/NY metro. | |
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Re: $150/month. If they're dumb enough to pay it.... | |
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| TzaleProud Libertarian Conservative Premium Member join:2004-01-06 NYC Metro |
Tzale
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2008-Apr-2 11:49 pm
Re: $150/month.said by ltjordan: If they're dumb enough to pay it.... This service isn't meant for the average person. It is meant for people who need A LOT of bandwidth.. I really can't see a need for that type of bandwidth for myself, and I consider myself a heavy internet user... So $150 for that type of bandwidth is a great deal... My FIOS 20/5 connection is more than fast enough for me 99% of the time. -Tzale | |
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Re: $150/month.said by Tzale:said by ltjordan: If they're dumb enough to pay it.... This service isn't meant for the average person. It is meant for people who need A LOT of bandwidth.. I really can't see a need for that type of bandwidth for myself, and I consider myself a heavy internet user... So $150 for that type of bandwidth is a great deal... My FIOS 20/5 connection is more than fast enough for me 99% of the time. -Tzale Bingo. That's where this means lower tiers can be competitive, if offered for an even lower price than they are today. Verizon has the capability of making their lower tiers SYMMETRICAL.. 15/15, 20/20, 30/30, and so on, however when they match/beat Comcast price points for asymmetric, is where things get interesting. Right now they're happy hocking digital cameras for triple play plans which have seen their latest price increase, so competition isn't exactly filling a great need right now. $99 all you can eat cellular voice minutes isn't a price point many can afford either. Keep in mind.. due to the threat of Cablevision.. Verizon has offered 50/5 for as low as $89.95 when bundled with voice service in the NY Metro area. If they were to do that in areas that Overlap outside of NY Metro.. Comcast would really have a problem. | |
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TOPDAWG
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2008-Apr-3 12:24 am
SoSo what happens when you bust the soft cap with this speed? I mean damn if you use BT and comcast does unblock it your going to hit that soft cap fast. | |
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Ben
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2008-Apr-3 7:39 am
Re: Sosaid by TOPDAWG:So what happens when you bust the soft cap with this speed? I mean damn if you use BT and comcast does unblock it your going to hit that soft cap fast. That's what I was thinking too. I seem to remember that Comcast supposedly has a 300GB cap, but it's really different for different markets, so it's not even consistent. At 50Mbps, you could go through that quickly. 50Mbps = 6.25 MByte/sec 300GB / 6.25 MByte/sec = 13 hours, 39 minutes, 12 seconds. For a 100GB upload cap and 5Mbps upload speed, it's: 45 hours, 30 minutes, and 40 seconds. Either way, it's easy to go through that fast. With BT, you really should restrict the upload, to keep some upload for yourself. Even so, it's still easy to go through that very quickly. | |
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2008-Apr-3 7:29 am
Qwest areaIsn't this a Qwest area? If so, wow this will be a backhanded slap wake up call. | |
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Corydon
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2008-Apr-3 11:36 am
Re: Qwest areaYup, Minneapolis-St. Paul is Qwest territory, which gives me hope that we may see these upgrades in Denver too.
Doubt I'd pay $150 a month for 50/5, but the boost to the upstream would be nice. | |
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I'm sorry but...why? If you are going to majorly cap it what does 50Mbit get you? besides kicked off 10x faster? Sure you can download that 10MB file so in 3 seconds... but how many people seriouslu would buy 50Mbit connections for "casual" usage when it costs that much? | |
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| SpaethCoDigital Plumber MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN 1 edit |
Re: I'm sorry but...I don't think the plan was really created for "casual" users. In my case I work from home a few days a month, and it will be really nice to have these speeds for pulling down large Visio diagrams and network traffic captures for analysis. My current usage is pretty light: month rx | tx | total
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May '07 32,640 MB | 2,822 MB | 35,463 MB
Jun '07 43,321 MB | 2,749 MB | 46,071 MB
Jul '07 20,218 MB | 2,148 MB | 22,366 MB
Aug '07 28,295 MB | 2,311 MB | 30,607 MB
Sep '07 17,906 MB | 1,692 MB | 19,599 MB
Oct '07 22,654 MB | 2,236 MB | 24,891 MB
Nov '07 21,906 MB | 2,021 MB | 23,927 MB
Dec '07 49,518 MB | 2,559 MB | 52,077 MB
Jan '08 30,174 MB | 2,854 MB | 33,028 MB
Feb '08 24,748 MB | 2,042 MB | 26,790 MB
Mar '08 45,936 MB | 3,215 MB | 49,152 MB
I don't expect that my traffic usage will deviate much with the 50/5 service; I'll just be able to spend less time waiting for things to transfer. | |
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ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
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2008-Apr-3 8:31 am
$150??You have got to be kidding me. That's prtetty damned steep. | |
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Slow-down during peakAnd come dinner-time, you will still only get about 9200 baud... | |
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2008-Apr-3 11:05 am
Any takers?so who here is actually getting the service? | |
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Re: Any takers?said by Alphy:so who here is actually getting the service? said by Chiyo:I've ordered the new package, I will have it installed on Sunday. New modem and an installation charge also I asked about the current tiers they are being upgraded to 10 and 12 meg. No time frame on that though. We have 1 taker! | |
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Re: Any takers?I find the people that complain the most are the ones that lack the knowledge of upstream spectrum bandwidth and the medium being coax to deliver. 50/5 is not unreasonable however untill all digital happens, get rid of the lower end of the forward spectrum and change out the diplex filters to allow more upstream you will not see symmetrical speeds. COAX if maintained properly works just as well as the fiber. I can goto a congested node off of the fiber and see a decrease in speeds just like I could off an end of line tap 4-5 miles away.
plus if the cable thieves would leave the crap alone then maybe things would be more stable as well. | |
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