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SirMeowmix_I
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2010-Feb-23 6:34 pm
Good stuff.Companies respond best with their profits are in danger. While class-action lawyers and the compensation they receive is ludicrous compared to those that are afflicted it's a necessary evil. It brings about necessary reform and serves as a warning for companies who would choose to emulate the same behavior in the future.
$16 may not be much but go buy a 12 pack and fire up a legal torrent. | |
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Z80A
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2010-Feb-23 6:42 pm
Followed byClass Action Lawsuit Recovery Fee | |
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Re: Followed byLawyers' Maserati Refuelling Fee. | |
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said by Z80A:Class Action Lawsuit Recovery Fee And that won't be an "up to" amount, everyone will get the max there. when will people get it: these big corps don't have a magic money tree, lawsuits ALWAYS filter back down to the subs bill! | |
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SLD
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2010-Feb-24 10:01 am
Re: Followed byExcept when there is competition. In a competitive market, the corp would have to eat the loss of the settlement, or eat the lost of subscribers when they migrate from the price increase. Of course, there is no *real* competition in much of Comcast territory. | |
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Z80A
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2010-Feb-24 10:19 am
Re: Followed byAs we have seen from many of Karl Bode 's reports, competition hasn't brought down prices unless you measure it by the Mb but those prices were coming down in the absence of competition. | |
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Beautiful!I'm all in favor of ISP's exercising their right to manage the resources they're responsible for but only when it's done completely transparently. All it would take is a teeny little disclaimer explaining which protocols they block or throttle to get my seal of approval. That way, customers know exactly what they're paying for.
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Alcohol
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2010-Feb-23 10:18 pm
Re: Beautiful!said by Telco_Tech:I'm all in favor of ISP's exercising their right to manage the resources they're responsible for but only when it's done completely transparently. All it would take is a teeny little disclaimer explaining which protocols they block or throttle to get my seal of approval. That way, customers know exactly what they're paying for. - Tate So you're fine with throttling instead of them expanding their capabilities? | |
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'Hacking' the users data stream is not network management.
But when are the Comcrap executives gong to jail for hacking users data streams? Too bad the lawsuit did not bother that that little technicality.
To many ISP's throttle without full disclosure on how slow your Torrents can go. And legitimate torrents too. | |
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tshirt
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2010-Feb-23 7:11 pm
Adjust that headline, Karl."The suit itself was settled for $16 million, and users who signed up for their settlement money are now being sent information on their share of the settlement in a notice included in user bills (page 1, page 2). According to the notice, the user share of the settlement money is "not to exceed $16." We're guessing the class action attorneys involved in the case did a little better for themselves." Headline should read "MAXIMUM of $16" ...after 10 million (some whom were not actually effected file) you'll get, maybe $2 or less. As to the lawyers fees, (generally) the court must approve their billing (Judge= lawyer + understands the high billing rate on SUCESSFUL suits) | |
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Re: Adjust that headline, Karl.Point taken. Fixed. | |
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pnh102
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2010-Feb-23 8:07 pm
Screw The PlaintiffsIn a perfect world, Comcast would just raise the rates of the plaintiffs bringing this lawsuit. Thanks to them we now have the hard 250GB cap and another rate hike to pay for the leeches' lawyers' fees.
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Z80A
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2010-Feb-23 8:12 pm
Re: Screw The PlaintiffsYeah because cable never raised HSI rates before BT. /sarcasm | |
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pnh102
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2010-Feb-23 8:16 pm
Re: Screw The PlaintiffsTrue... I just find most class action lawsuits to be pointless. The plaintiffs receive token, laughable "rewards" which almost always require them to spend money on a product/service offered for sale by the company they just sued, and of course the lawyers make out like bandits. Rarely if ever do things change as a result of these lawsuits.
Of course I personally believe that every lawsuit should be presumed to be 100% frivolous and phony unless proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be otherwise. | |
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Z80A
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2010-Feb-23 9:33 pm
Re: Screw The PlaintiffsOf course it is pointless. The only ones who benefit are the bloodsucking waste of skin lawyers who should save the nation by setting themselves on fire. Class Actions should be opt in instead of opt out but that is what you get when the Trial Lawyers types like Fmr Sen and current adulterer Edwards bribe Congress. Of course we should all feel good about paying our high insurance premiums so that these worthless whores can build their two Americas starting with their own 23,000 sqft houses. However, bloodsucking leech shitheads or not, Comcast will continue to abuse their market position and throttle people with regular 3X inflation price increases. They don't need lawyers to give them any excuse. Brian Roberts' video walls, 5th Ave Apple Store stairs in his office and his shiny new ivory tower are all the excuse they need. | |
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said by pnh102:True... I just find most class action lawsuits to be pointless. All lawsuits are pointless... Unless you are the injured party, and unable to get the person/entity at fault to pay a "reasonable settlement" for your damages said by pnh102: The plaintiffs receive token, laughable "rewards" Of course I personally believe that every lawsuit should be presumed to be 100% frivolous and phony unless proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be otherwise. The advantatge of "class" action, is greater weight/shared legal cost for the planitifs, the downside is everyone in the class receives an "Average" settlement rather than the most damaged receiving the most, and the barely damaged receiving very little. The overall award is intended to be punitive againist the offender, but currently the courts reduce MOST judgements, below any true financial punishment (given the delays/interest/etc) the main cost now is the PR value (nil to out of business COs, little to major corp's )who spend more on a single "feel good about us" ad then they pay for a typical settlement. every lawsuit/legal challange should stand on its merits, not the size of the class/corp/parties sueing/defending. | |
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Z80A
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2010-Feb-24 5:56 am
Re: Screw The PlaintiffsSure, because the injured party (if there even is one) is awesomely compensated with $2. | |
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Actually, Comcast has been good in the past about not raising the rates of HSI. Now their rates for Cable TV, that is a whole different subject. | |
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dvd536
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2010-Feb-24 8:07 am
Re: Screw The Plaintiffssaid by goofy01:Actually, Comcast has been good in the past about not raising the rates of HSI. Now their rates for Cable TV, that is a whole different subject. And guess what subsidizes *fair* HSI rates! thats why everyone has caps, to prevent cord cutting because VIDEO is what keeps hsi affordable. | |
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Depends on what you call a price increase. Comcast in my area when they took over from ATTb implemented a bundling penalty for those who didn't have CATV (only HSI). The rates for those people went from I believe it was $45 to $60, a 33% price increase. | |
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So basically Comcast wants to do whatever theywant and if they don't want to give the consumer the speeds they are paying for...ah, tough ****....nobody can stop them? | |
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So Comcast users get $16 and a price increase..Yea i sound like a nut but.. I have a problem with goverment getting involved in free enterprise. And yes, i know they're a monopoly. But, You squeeze a balloon on one side and it always pops out on the other side. The customer eventually get screwed at the end of the day with a price increase after everyone between gets their piece of the pie. Government and the lawyers will gladly control every aspect of our lives until one day we'll wonder what happened.. | |
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edward1956
Anon
2010-Mar-1 8:29 am
Comcast ISP ServiceAccording to » www.speedtest.net I'm downloading 10.26 MPS on the present $19.99 per month promotion & use the internet a lot & for now, I feel I'm getting what I pay for, until May, when my Economy Internet jumps to $34.99. Then I might go shopping for a new ISP. | |
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linicx
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2010-Apr-4 2:41 pm
The lawyers are rightFCC has no official authority. They do Congressional bidding. The consumer usually wins in small complaints because it is cheaper than the company lawyer. I filed a complaint and when I proved my case to a highly positioned suit - which was very easy -- I worked with the top engineer of a major telco for nine months - and I won. Luckily my ISP was patient and as interested in solving the problem as I was. Data does not always flow as well as expected or as promised. | |
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