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Comcast Planning Speed Changes in Northeast (Confirmed)
Extreme 50 Going to 105 Mbps in Northeast
by Karl Bode Wednesday 20-Jun-2012 tags: competition · business · bandwidth · cable · Comcast
An anonymous tipster (so take that for what it's worth since we've been unable to confirm this with any of our usual sources) insists in our forums that there's a suite of speed hikes coming -- at least for Comcast users in the Northeast. "Comcast is changing their blast and extreme 50 tiers in the northeast only," suggests the tipster.

"Blast is going to 50 download and extreme 50 goes to 105 download. Extreme 105 goes away and customers get a price decrease," he says. We'll let you know if the claims pan out. According to the source, these changes will occur in ninety days and notifications are being sent out soon.

With Verizon's recently speed hike Comcast now has some catching up to do -- particularly on the upstream side of the equation.

Update: User gate1975mlm See Profile was so kind as to post this recording of a regional radio ad acknowledging that the updates are indeed coming.

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amarryat
Verizon FiOS

join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA

Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

Comcast needs new infrastructure or they'll never be able to offer fast upload. They'll have to invest the billions that Verizon invested a few years ago.
Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

fios was a new build out. Comcast just took over older cable systems that where build some time ago.

anononon

@myvzw.com

Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

Didn't that also happen to Vz, except they chose to reinvest in their infrastructure (at the time) instead of buying a TV network. Vz's facilities are twice the age and better maintained. Now its just about hoarding the mist money possible.

JigglyWiggly

join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

and here i am in the west coast
ffs

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000
That doesn't matter right now because the overwhelming majority of their users are not going to sustain these speeds. They are updating their networks similar to how businesses use just in time inventory.
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NickD
Premium
join:2000-11-17
Princeton Junction, NJ
My wi-fi router can't seem to go above 20 mbps, so a Comcast speed increase won't make my network faster. When connected directly to ethernet, I get 35 mbps down 10 up.

amarryat
Verizon FiOS

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Marshfield, MA
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Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

said by NickD:

My wi-fi router can't seem to go above 20 mbps, so a Comcast speed increase won't make my network faster. When connected directly to ethernet, I get 35 mbps down 10 up.

You need to get an "N" wifi router.

An

@comcast.net
buy a Gb router...and you gotta remember wifi is half duplex so theres always loss.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

said by An :

buy a Gb router...and you gotta remember wifi is half duplex so theres always loss.

For me, my bottle neck was my cables and my CC phone/modem. I dumped the phone service months ago and CC refused to give me a new modem. So, I just said, screw you, I'll go get my own SB6121 docis3 and swapped out my cables to 6e's. Already got a giga router and 802.11n router (Dlink DIR655 and matching AP). I'm paying 40 right now for 25/4 and I'm happy with the speeds. Bottle neck is gone.

jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1
This is what pains me from moving into an area that had FiOS to an area that only has Comcast available. My Slingbox can't keep up now with the meager upload that Comcast offers, at all but the most expensive business tiers.

I see 35/6 on speed tests with an ok latency, but even as the only person that uses this connection, the uploads just don't cut it. I can't imagine how this might impact a family or a group of users trying to share the same connection.

My Verizon HTC Rezound can get steady LTE upload speeds at a faster rate than my home connection.

My download speed is plenty fast enough already, but an increase in my upload speeds would be the most beneficial to me.
quintin3265

join:2008-06-07
State College, PA
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·Comcast

Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

Two points:

1. It doesn't matter what Comcast increases their speeds to, because they still have caps. Who cares if you have 50 down when you just hit the cap faster?

2. Why do you need more than 6 up? There are two people living in my house on a Comcast 12/2 business connection, and we don't have any problems with upload speed at all. Even "high-definition" providers like Netflix only stream so-called "HD" streams at 2Mbps.

AnonFTW

@rr.com

Re: Comcast will not be able to keep up on the upstream

said by quintin3265:

2. Why do you need more than 6 up? There are two people living in my house on a Comcast 12/2 business connection, and we don't have any problems with upload speed at all. Even "high-definition" providers like Netflix only stream so-called "HD" streams at 2Mbps.

Google what a Slingbox is. It's nothing like Netflix.
itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
said by quintin3265:

Even "high-definition" providers like Netflix only stream so-called "HD" streams at 2Mbps.

That's not true. I've got Netflix on my AppleTV and have watched it pull around 8-11Mbps when streaming HD content. This was verified with my FIOS routers bandwidth page. IIRC it was while streaming the TV show Flashpoint at 1080.

So yes with an adequate connection Netflix will stream tons of data and I'm tankful I'm on FIOS.
fiberguy
My views are my own.
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kudos:3
said by quintin3265:

Two points:

1. It doesn't matter what Comcast increases their speeds to, because they still have caps. Who cares if you have 50 down when you just hit the cap faster?

2. Why do you need more than 6 up? There are two people living in my house on a Comcast 12/2 business connection, and we don't have any problems with upload speed at all. Even "high-definition" providers like Netflix only stream so-called "HD" streams at 2Mbps.

#1 ) Grow up. This topic has been beaten to death already for years! ..and it talking about hitting caps that much faster isn't going to change. Maybe people want to just get what they already DO, done FASTER.. Just because your car goes faster doesn't mean you're going to drive any further.. it just means you have more power and the ability to go faster. So drop the years old crap already.

2) Listening to your #2 pretty much says you don't know what you're talking about.. I get streams at about 10mb.. not sure what your problem is.

If you don't want the extra speed then tell them not to upgrade you at no charge.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

CV, join the party..

hey, if Comcast can boost 50mbit tier to 100, why not cablevision? Optimum boost @ 100+mbits would be great, of course that means docsis 3 bonded upstream channels for higher upload too.. 100/8 would be too asymmetric. 25 or more on the upstream!

Chris 313
Come get some
Premium
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Houma, LA

Re: CV, join the party..

They already do at 101/15. »www.optimum.com/home-internet-se···rnet.jsp
tmc8080

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Re: CV, join the party..

said by Chris 313:

They already do at 101/15. »www.optimum.com/home-internet-se···rnet.jsp

Well, technically the price will be more for that speed.. Comcast price is $65 for the 50 which will boost to 105... the OOL Extreme 101 is $99+ w/ a $300 installation fee which is not justifiable w/ Verizon breaking new speed barriers.

Having 100mbit speeds for $45 - $65 would be a big shift in the cost per (download) megabit!

Chris 313
Come get some
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Houma, LA
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Re: CV, join the party..

Yes, I agree, having 100 for the base price would be awesome. It'll happen, just give it a few more years. I was robbed of the chance since Comcast hasn't even upgraded to D3 here yet so I don't have anything faster then 16/2 since last year. But I waited 5 years for 50 to become affordable and look, it's coming. And when it finally gets to me, it'll probably be faster then the 50 they're rolling out now.

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
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Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4
said by tmc8080:

hey, if Comcast can boost 50mbit tier to 100, why not cablevision? Optimum boost @ 100+mbits would be great, of course that means docsis 3 bonded upstream channels for higher upload too.. 100/8 would be too asymmetric. 25 or more on the upstream!

Cablevision doing 15mbps WITHOUT upstream bonding!

jeff17

join:2000-12-11
US

Double speed

I've seen Comcast TV commercials in NJ that state two tiers will soon have double the speed at no additional cost.
Wilsdom

join:2009-08-06

Re: Double speed

They plan to start charging by gigabyte, so if you actually make use of the the bandwidth it will be at a huge extra cost

jeff17

join:2000-12-11
US

Re: Double speed

I'm ok with that.

gate1975mlm
Premium
join:2001-09-30
united state
kudos:8
said by Wilsdom:

They plan to start charging by gigabyte, so if you actually make use of the the bandwidth it will be at a huge extra cost

No there not!

Not until you go over the 300GB Cap anyway.

And that cap maybe even higher once they finalize everything.
nanoflower

join:2002-07-14
30876

Re: Double speed

Given how slowly they have moved in the past I wouldn't look for the 300GB monthly limit to increase for at least five years. Currently that new limit puts them ahead of anyone else in the USA that has a monthly limit, and it still is a low enough limit that it will keep the cord cutters that move to Internet downloads to a minimum (which is the main purpose of the limit.)
Wilsdom

join:2009-08-06
But we're talking about 100Mbps here. 300GB can be burned through in hours, so that cap has a loooooooooooong way to go before it is even close to appropriate. Well, it wouldn't actually be that hard--they could just replace "GB" with "TB"

AnonFTW

@rr.com

Re: Double speed

said by Wilsdom:

But we're talking about 100Mbps here. 300GB can be burned through in hours, so that cap has a loooooooooooong way to go before it is even close to appropriate. Well, it wouldn't actually be that hard--they could just replace "GB" with "TB"

Who is going to deliver you 300GB of content in "just a few hours?"
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA

Re: Double speed

akamai ? l3 ? Limelight ? IBM ? At&t ?

Should I continue ?

My Company had vpn concentrators on gig links , id appreciate the ability to work from home when I need to do big software installs. Instead of having to go into the office all the time, ohh wait the 300 gig limit still limits me to a couple big installs from home on friday and saturday nights.
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gate1975mlm
Premium
join:2001-09-30
united state
kudos:8

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Faster speeds are always welcomed!

gate1975mlm
Premium
join:2001-09-30
united state
kudos:8

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The faster speed should also help online video to load faster.

gate1975mlm
Premium
join:2001-09-30
united state
kudos:8

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said by jeff17:

I've seen Comcast TV commercials in NJ that state two tiers will soon have double the speed at no additional cost.

I just heard the same thing but on the radio

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4

Ahhhhhh

More token downstream boosts that'll go largely unused.
how about more upload[which always can be used!]

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gate1975mlm
Premium
join:2001-09-30
united state
kudos:8

Its 100% True speed upgrades are coming very soon!

I was just listening to local radio station 94WIP Sports Radio here in Philly and they just had a brand new Comcast commercial talking about the new speed upgrade coming very soon!

Blast becomes 50
Extreme becomes 105

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Does this effect Buisiness Class?

Any word if these changes would also affect Premium and Deluxe Business class subscribers also?
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IowaCowboy
Want to go back to Iowa
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In an area where FiOS ain't available

Springfield, MA is in the Northeast but we cannot get FiOS. AT&T U-Verse is available about a 15 minute drive from our house just south of the border in Enfield, CT. Too bad Verizon couldn't sell their Western Massachusetts assets to AT&T so they could expand their U-Verse into the Springfield area.

Hopefully we'll get the better speeds as Comcast has D3 in our area and we've had it since late 2008 as we were one of the first areas to get D3.
chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
Schaumburg, IL
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
·Mediacom
·T-Mobile US

Re: In an area where FiOS ain't available

Glad I moved from chicopee to chicagoland. But your choices are not bad. U can have Comcast or charter (which serves chicopee). I don't know if vz DSL is in Springfield area but it is in chicopee. There is no fios there though last time I checked.

I used to live for about a year in Dubuque, IA for job related reasons and my only viable choice at that time was mediacom. Its more mediocre and pricey than Comcast. Constant outages and slowdowns. Cable rental boxes are joke. My other choice was century link but I stuck with media com due to contract. Eventually I broke contract with them free of etf due to incorrect prices was given during my phone orders, that's when I got involved bbb and sa. After I did that somehow they services have improved and no longer had to deal with slowdowns at peak times. Dbq area still has no 4g from vz or att except for us cellular. But 3g from att has always been rock solid.

IowaCowboy
Want to go back to Iowa
Premium
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Springfield, MA
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·Comcast
·Verizon Broadban..

Re: In an area where FiOS ain't available

I used to live in Cedar Rapids, IA and we had an overbuilder in town which was McLeod USA (which is now I'mOn communications) and that kept Mediacom prices in check. My cable bill went up a good $10-$20 dollars just by moving to Springfield, MA and when we first moved to Springfield, we had the old dual cable system (with A/B cable lines) and you could not get HSI or digital cable. By the end of the year, AT&T Broadband (which owned the Cedar Rapids system before selling it to Mediacom) sold the Springfield system to Comcast and they rebuilt the cable system so we now have Digital Cable/HSI/VoIP available along with D3.

luckyou

@comcast.net
Yes. The Northeast is viewed as Vermont, all of Mass and all of CT as well as Carmel, NY. Springfield is actually a new product market that tests new products

Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:3
I got a friend in Stafford Springs CT. You know of any areas around there or Springfield MA or Enfield CT that are Comcast serviced?

IowaCowboy
Want to go back to Iowa
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Springfield, MA
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·Comcast
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Re: In an area where FiOS ain't available

Springfield, West Springfield, Westfield (Comcast headend is in Westfield), Agawam, Holyoke, and Longmeadow are served by Comcast. Chicopee, Ludlow, Wilbraham and East Longmeadow are served by Charter. I am glad I have Comcast as I have heard many complaints about Charter both on DSLR and local forums.

As for Enfield, CT they are served by Cox.

camaro92
Question everything
Premium
join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA

I was told

At my local best buy that's what I was told when I was checking out new cable modems and got swarmed by the workers. Those speed's are dead on from what I was told, so who knows I'll believe it when I do some speed test's

IowaCowboy
Want to go back to Iowa
Premium
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Springfield, MA
Reviews:
·Comcast
·Verizon Broadban..

Re: I was told

Make sure you buy a D3 modem. I have a Motorola 6120 but you'll have to get the 6121 because the 6120 is discontinued. I frequently shop at the Best Buy at Holyoke Mall and they're always sold out of the 6121 modems. They always have a boatload of 5101 modems in stock but I have a gut feeling that Comcast is soon going to declare all D2 modems to be end of life soon (which means they'll no longer support them). My 6120 works good for me though although I have thoughts of getting the 6121 but the folks in the Comcast HSI forum on this site said that the 6120 and the 6121 are basically the same thing except for a few minor tweaks.

camaro92
Question everything
Premium
join:2008-04-05
Westfield, MA
Yup same location I did, I have a Arris WBM760A and they also say it is compatible, thanks for the advice though.

sherman06810

join:2000-10-15
Danbury, CT

Business Tiers

If the rumor is true, will I see an increase from 22/5 to 50/5 on my business class tier?

gate1975mlm
Premium
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united state
kudos:8

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Re: Business Tiers

It is true!

Here is the radio commercial!

You may need to turn up the volume a little

NetFixer
From my cold dead hands
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The Boro
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·Comcast Business..
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Re: Business Tiers

said by sherman06810:

If the rumor is true, will I see an increase from 22/5 to 50/5 on my business class tier?

said by gate1975mlm:

It is true!

Here is the radio commercial!

You may need to turn up the volume a little

FYI, Your radio commercial is an Xfinity commercial, and Xfinity residential service != Comcast Business Class service.

Comcast Business Class service speed tier changes are glacial compared to Xfinity residential speed tier changes, and since business class customers also have very restrictive contracts, any speed tier changes for individual customers is sometimes postponed until contract renewal time.
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Morac
Cat god

join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Comcast

How about upload speeds?

Blast is currently 25/4 (30/6 if you count Powerboost). According to the Comcast shop web site (at least for my area, I have channel bonding) Extreme 50 is 50/15 and 105 is 105/20.

Does this mean Blast will now be 50/15?
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Chris 313
Come get some
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Houma, LA
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·Comcast
·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast Digital ..

Re: How about upload speeds?

I would think so. It'd be stupid to do otherwise when all you have to do is send a file to modem that is known to already work (It'll be interesting to see how they do this file wise. Do they send us the Extreme 50 file for Blasters or do they alter the Blast file to 50/15 speeds?)

It would also explain how they'd do their speeds:

Standard would be 25/5
Blast: 50/15
Extreme 50 would now be 105/20
And Extreme 105 would go away, leaving room for a future Extreme 300 package or an upgrade for those that already have 105 at the 200 a month price point.

ben7337

@comcast.net

Re: How about upload speeds?

I'd also like to know. I'm getting 25/4 now with power boost, but in reality sustained speeds are 14/2, which seems like an odd number to me. I think I'm on performance instead of blast. Does anyone know if performance is getting an upgrade? Or if i upgrade to the 30/? of blast speeds in my area will those speeds be going up? I'm doing a lot of stuff with our comcast bill and cablecard and other stuff this week so planning to call them, but would much rather get some solid info rather than talk to a customer service rep who hasn't been trained on anything.

Morac
Cat god

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Riverside, NJ
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Reviews:
·Comcast

Re: How about upload speeds?

said by ben7337 :

I'd also like to know. I'm getting 25/4 now with power boost, but in reality sustained speeds are 14/2, which seems like an odd number to me. I think I'm on performance instead of blast. Does anyone know if performance is getting an upgrade? Or if i upgrade to the 30/? of blast speeds in my area will those speeds be going up? I'm doing a lot of stuff with our comcast bill and cablecard and other stuff this week so planning to call them, but would much rather get some solid info rather than talk to a customer service rep who hasn't been trained on anything.

I'm pretty sure 14/2 is Performance not Blast. Blast is a sustained 25/4 speed with boosts much higher. You can check your config file for "speedtierextreme2" in the name to see if you have Blast.

Performance is not getting a speed boost. Only the Blast and above tiers are getting a boost (or a price cut for those on 105 Mbps currently).
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ben7337

@comcast.net

Re: How about upload speeds?

Where is the config file? That is just way too vague for me to figure out?

Also I thought blast was only 30mbps down with powerboost? Not much higher? Or is the speed change moving blast to 50mbps with powerboost and 25 sustained? Maybe my market isn't getting this speed boost, the radio commercial does say it is only in certain markets.
compuwizz

join:2001-03-05
Reston, VA

Caps

Thanks for the upgrade, however we'll just reach our caps faster ...
25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

DSLR Next

DSLR and Karl will be next for posting illegal recordings of radio stations. Great job there Karl!

gate1975mlm
Premium
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united state
kudos:8

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Re: DSLR Next

said by 25139889:

DSLR and Karl will be next for posting illegal recordings of radio stations. Great job there Karl!

illegal recordings?

Are you saying the recording I uploaded is illegal?

I really find it hard to believe that having a radio playing in the backround and having it picked up by my microphone is very illegal.

But if this is true I am sorry and will just remove it.

I'll tell you I am really getting sick and tired of all this so called illegal crap!

I thought I did a nice thing for you guys and now it sounds like I may have done something illegal

When will it stop? lol
Oedipus

join:2005-05-09
kudos:1

Re: DSLR Next

Don't worry about ohio; he has some demons that he's struggling with.
GmDude66

join:2007-09-09
York, PA

Re: DSLR Next

Ahahaha! That comment made my day!

jap
Premium
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038xx
said by gate1975mlm:

illegal recordings? [...] When will it stop?

What Oedipus said. And thanks for the confirmation. Now all I have to do is figure out if seacoast New Hampshire is located in the Northeast.
AVonGauss
Premium
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Boynton Beach, FL
The sad part is, the way our IP law has gotten crazy it probably is - but no worries, they'll definitely go after Karl before they come after you...

Tsume
Premium
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN

When will we get DOCSIS3?

So now a good portion of Comcast can get 105mbps, over 13x the maximum speed of 8mbps available in Johnson City. Almost all of Comcast can get significantly faster speeds than our region.

Are we ever going to see upgrades out here?
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Landmine

join:2009-01-05
Placerville, CA

West Coast Love?

So when is this rolling out to the west? And when will it matter to business class?

I've emailed my Rep and I'll post answers if I get any.

Xman78

@comcast.net

Beat the cap

Depending on how you use your internet, if like most who worry about the cap it's about netflix and things like that, comcast has a deal where any video watched through Xboxes doesn't count toward the cap, so you can watch all the netflix through 105 speed you want and be cap free.

Xman78

@comcast.net

Re: Beat the cap

After researching more I guess its just the xfinity tv app that is cap free via xbox, but still better than nothing.

mmm

@comcast.net

confirmation

I tried talking to a few representatives at Comcast to see if they could provide a more definitive timeline of when this increase will happen, but got shuffled around and never reached a solid answer. I'll try calling my local Comcast office tomorrow when they're open to see if they can provide any additional insight.

bryanmm29

@comcast.net

comcast speeds

they were just here the other day and the worker said in 2 weeks we will be getting a speed boost so we shall see

test

@comcast.net

Re: comcast speeds

Which state are you in? I imagine they'd just do it for all of New England in one shot who knows.
Jerkface

join:2005-06-05
Hackettstown, NJ

heard this on TV

i live in NJ and heard this on a TV ad. 07/06/2012.

kjarrett

@comcast.net

Re: heard this on TV

said by Jerkface:

i live in NJ and heard this on a TV ad. 07/06/2012.

Same. Searching and a tip from a friend led me here. Fingers crossed that it happens soon!

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