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Boston, MA | Re: Good said by John McClane:yep. this is exactly like robbing a bank and/or raping children. /s No, but it's exactly - exactly! - like the crime of hacking into a network you don't own. | |
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| | | | | Re: Good said by vpoko:said by John McClane:yep. this is exactly like robbing a bank and/or raping children. /s No, but it's exactly - exactly! - like the crime of hacking into a network you don't own. so if your bank leaves the vault open and a sign at front saying open and no tellers are around and some guy wanders in and leaves a note in the vault saying you should have shut it, thats wrong?
I think society needs a fraking head shake.
THIS is why defacing's are no longer tolerated even if the defacing would HELP YOU RETARDED ADMINS.
WHY should you profit form knowledge hackers have?
you realize i have scripts that can open the universe rgiht wide open......so what big deal ....do i? no.WHY? cause i have better things to do then educate morons that would just then have me arrested. | |
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| Re: Good said by JonBoySC:Hacking a computer is like raping children? Wow. Not even on the same level. Bank robber yes, child raper... not even close. Well, either you or the OP was being sarcastic...
That said, 4 months is chump change. Now they'll figure out how to do it without going to prison next time.
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| | | | | | Re: Good said by J E F F:That said, 4 months is chump change. Now they'll figure out how to do it without going to prison next time. It's worth noting that a 4 month "prison" sentence doesn't exist. Anything less than 6 months is served in a county jail. Similar concept, but a very different type of facility with a different group of people. (majority only accused rather than convicted)
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| Re: Good said by Camelot One:said by J E F F:That said, 4 months is chump change. Now they'll figure out how to do it without going to prison next time. It's worth noting that a 4 month "prison" sentence doesn't exist. Anything less than 6 months is served in a county jail. Similar concept, but a very different type of facility with a different group of people. (majority only accused rather than convicted) That's true in Canada too..although I believe 'jail' is two years less a day, and prison is 2 years or more. Generally, you're better off in prison I would think, since you'd be allowed a few more rights.
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| | | | | | | | Re: Good said by J E F F:said by Camelot One:said by J E F F:That said, 4 months is chump change. Now they'll figure out how to do it without going to prison next time. It's worth noting that a 4 month "prison" sentence doesn't exist. Anything less than 6 months is served in a county jail. Similar concept, but a very different type of facility with a different group of people. (majority only accused rather than convicted) That's true in Canada too..although I believe 'jail' is two years less a day, and prison is 2 years or more. Generally, you're better off in prison I would think, since you'd be allowed a few more rights. NO , jail or provincial time as it is really known is easier in some ways as you have more freedoms ...prison as you call it is called actually federal time and you have fewer rights fewer freedoms but are left alone more and dont get bothered by "short timers"
if thats worth more time then you need a REAL good head shake.....
also you dont get internet access in provincial time while you can get very very restricted access in federal jails. | |
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1 edit | Since when is "he deserved it" an acceptable defense to a crime? Lots of people might or might not deserve to have some bad things happen to them, but if you commit a crime against them - even if you think you're just doing them the favor of educating them, expect to pay for it.
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| Sorry, sir but either you are ignorant of the totality of the circumstances in this case, or you don't know what you’re talking about.
The notion that anything less than a 6 month sentence is served in a county jail in every jurisdiction in the US is simply flat out WRONG.
The time varies from state to state and correctional system to correctional system. In Pennsylvania it's anything less than 2 years aggregate sentence. Even then, you can work out a plea bargain in order to stay in the county prison (the county joints usually have better chow).
In Delaware, everyone sentenced to prison time serves their time in a state prison. Why? There are no county jails in Delaware. All correctional facilities in Delaware are run by the state DOC. So, if you get sentenced to 4 months prison in Delaware for, say, a drug charge. You could possibly share your cell with a murderer, a Wilmington street thug, or a guy arrested for kiddie porn.
Since (if you read the story) this bozo was sentenced in FEDERAL court, he will serve his time in a Federal prison. Most likely he will be permitted to self surrender. USMS will send him a letter telling him when and where to report. Since this is a non violent crime, and he has no prior record, most likely he will serve his time in a minimum security prison camp with other non violent, mostly drug offenders.
That said, Federal Prison camp isn't exactly FPMINTA prison, but it's no cake walk either. There are plenty a book on surviving Federal Prison camp.
One might ask how I know all this. It's what I've done for a living the past 13 years (working at various state, county, federal, and local law enforcement agencies) so I assure you that while I won't say this is 100% accurate, it's pretty damn close to it.
He'll serve the 4 months, probably at some prison camp cutting grass and weeding flowerbeds at some Air Force base or something....
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| | | | | | said by J E F F:That said, 4 months is chump change. Now they'll figure out how to do it without going to prison next time. They probably got only 4 months because they were right about Comcast's service. | |
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The Internet is growing to be a critical communication medium and people that maliciously cause service impact are nothing less than criminals.
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Mississauga, ON | Re: Good I agree, all crimes should be equally criminal.
all should get only one sentence. Death. that way no more burden on taxpayers. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Good said by Gami00:I agree, all crimes should be equally criminal. all should get only one sentence. Death. that way no more burden on taxpayers. my bet is i can in tme find you guilty of a crime so we'll have to cut your balls off then your hands and feet then cut your thoroat let you bleed to death and this way it dont require electricity or chemicals that furthar burden a tax payer.....
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Mississauga, ON | Re: Good my bet, was you were suppose to be offline and off the grid like 40 times already..
ah well, you win some, lose some. | |
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2 edits | Re: Good said by John McClane:thats funny because it isn't regulated that way. its regulated as an entertainment product. Ok, break into a Blockbuster and destroy their DVD's and then ponder whether it's criminal or not. This really is a simple matter of damaging something - anything - that's not yours. A crime. | |
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Boston, MA | Re: Good said by John McClane:blockbuster isn't worth the effort. the entertainment product that is the internet gives me all the movies i need. Yup, which is exactly why those who break it should be punished. | |
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| Re: Good said by John McClane:how do they calculate $128k? sounds like a number pulled out of thin air. 128k is also the memory capacity of their portal server. I'm sure the numbers tie in together somewhere.
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| | | | | | | Re: Good said by Noah Vail:said by John McClane:how do they calculate $128k? sounds like a number pulled out of thin air. 128k is also the memory capacity of their portal server. I'm sure the numbers tie in together somewhere. NV The cost to rent the hardware like much higher then the real price just like how they can make you pay $8 /m to rent a 2-4+ year old cable box. | |
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Camden, TN | said by ThrowDemsOut:said by John McClane:yep. this is exactly like robbing a bank it is like robbing a bank, except they cost Comcast at least $128,000. And that is more than most bank robbers get. and bank robbers get WAY more than 4 months. | |
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| | | | | said by ThrowDemsOut:said by John McClane:yep. this is exactly like robbing a bank it is like robbing a bank, except they cost Comcast at least $128,000. And that is more than most bank robbers get. imaginary money is still imaginary
kinda like kevin mitnik being initially accused of 280 million in damages then after his trial being convicted of 4000$ and getting 4 years in jail
anyone know of anyone getting 4 years in prison for 4000$ put your hand up..... | |
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kudos:2 | Funny, that's always the argument given by people who think they should get away with lesser crimes. | |
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| Four months prison time.
Just enough time to pound into this guy's head what a knucklehead he is, and more importantly, to keep other 2 bit knuckleheads from thinking it would be a good idea to engage in behavior usually only seen in the galacticaly stupid.
After he serves his 4 months, he's got some house arrest and community service to do. He also owes Comcast a cool $128K, which he admitted in open court was his responsibility.
Having been a dopey 18 year old myself back some time before the Gulf war (the FIRST Gulf war) I can remember doing some really stupid things and not thinking of the consequences.
If I were an 18 year old (guy was 18 when the hack happened) and I read this. Well, I wouldn't even THINK of doing something like this.
This isn't punishment, this is to send a message to all the dopey Kewl wHaReZ HaCkHeRzZZZ out there that the courts take this shit seriously, and if you plan on disrupting people's service and business you're going to do some time.
I would say mission accomplished....
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| said by Z80A:More of these scumsuckers should spend time in a FPMITA prison. Absolutely!
Anyone foolish enough to publicly brag about their exploits deserves to be punished. | |
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| | | said by Z80A:More of these scumsuckers should spend time in a FPMITA prison. no makeing them work for comcast is worse put them on the phones. | |
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| | Good for them Once that hacker gets out, they should do it again and laugh at comcrap security. | |
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| | | Re: Good for them Ah, if he is smart he'll rather work for them, make $$$$$ and make Xfinity services more secure. | |
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| | | said by silentlooker:Once that hacker gets out, they should do it again and laugh at comcrap security. This was a social engineering hack against Network Solution's security not Comcast security. "took control of Comcast's registrar account at Network Solutions. "
From what I read back when this happened the hack was pretty basic and not something special to put on your "black hat" resume for the future.
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| | | | Re: Good for them Ah, I see. Then he won't. He'll be doing either a community service or working at Target except cash register. | |
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| | | | said by yt:said by silentlooker:Once that hacker gets out, they should do it again and laugh at comcrap security. This was a social engineering hack against Network Solution's security not Comcast security. "took control of Comcast's registrar account at Network Solutions. " From what I read back when this happened the hack was pretty basic and not something special to put on your "black hat" resume for the future. like use a default password? | |
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Boston, MA | said by silentlooker:Once that hacker gets out, they should do it again and laugh at comcrap security. ...and back to prison. | |
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Southeast TN | Hmmm... "Though the men's actions only cut most users off of the site for about 90 minutes..."
Damn, Comcast breaks their own shit unexpectedly for longer amounts of time than that. Perhaps they should get these guys to audit their methods of doing things instead of charging them for something that was bound to happen anyways. | |
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| | Real time in jail So yea, lets remember that most prisons are overcrowded and people are release early for good behavior. I expect them to serve no longer than 30 days. Especially since the crime was non-violent. | |
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EARTH | Who uses Comcast? Who uses their websites anyways? My Comcast connection is just a pipe. I wouldn't use Comcast's stupid site in a million years. | |
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1 edit | Re: Who uses Comcast? some people use comcast's website to monitor their cap usage (and as adults pay their bills online). | |
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EARTH | Re: Who uses Comcast? Autopay. I guess monitoring since their numbers aren't seeming to match with the actual numbers from local logs. | |
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Gainesville, GA | said by blguy07:some people use comcast's website to monitor their cap usage (and as adults pay their bills online). what are you talking about? comcast.com is the busness end. comcast.net is the worthless portal
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| | | | | Re: Who uses Comcast? What about HBO, Starz subscribers? They have access to the newest shows from these channels through this portal. They are not on Hulu or Netflix (except some Starz). | |
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Smyrna, DE | said by Augustus III:said by blguy07:some people use comcast's website to monitor their cap usage (and as adults pay their bills online). what are you talking about? comcast.com is the busness end. comcast.net is the worthless portal do you even know the difference? guess not I guess you didn't know that the authenication for .net and .com are integrated now? guess not
You can log in to both and pay your bill on comcast.com and check your usage on .net and stream premium content on fancast/xfinity with a single sign-on. | |
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Fort Lauderdale, FL | Where is hacker prison? Hackers go to a minimum security prison right? They don't go to San Quentin or Fulsom do they? | |
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| Re: Where is hacker prison? The type of prison someone is sent to serve time depends more on their violence level rather than the nature of their crime.
A person who murdered in a jealous rage could be sent to a medium facility while a very violent bank robber could be sent to a maximum prison.
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1 edit | Technolgy is inherently flawed.Look at Apple and M$ TODAY. I guess this Kid don't like FLAWED technology and he got punished for it. Anyway he is only a teenager so he still have a future in protecting networks.
Kid, If you gave up meshing up somebody's network and want to live a healthy life, I have a job for you in a big farm raising goats, pigs and chickens. | |
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Hollywood, FL | Re: Technolgy is inherently flawed.Look at Apple and M$ TODAY. Hmm... and murderers usually get bail and lengthly trial times.
Nowadays it almost seems economical to off an enemy as opposed to committing a trivial crime, and im sorry, but what was done seems pretty trivial to me given whats occurring on this sad planet we call earth... | |
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| | wow I'm amazed at some of these responses the law is clear if you hack you have broken the law, its cut and dry I wouldnt compare it to child abuse or rape but its very much a breach of the law so who gives a damn if nobody got hurt its the law. | |
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