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are the "defendants"?
OK I see.
19, 20 and 27 (minus a year ago when they commited the act).
Possible 5 years in jail. phew. Can't wait to hear the sentencing for this horrific event.
Rapists often get half that here in nyc. | |
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 |  1 edit | Re: How old 19, 20, and 27. Keepin it REALZ. Hacking a boring cable portal. For great justice. | |
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 |  |  Chris 313Come get somePremium join:2004-07-18 Houma, LA Reviews:
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1 edit | Re: How old said by Karl Bode:19, 20, and 27. Keepin it REALZ. Hacking a boring cable portal. For great justice. All your restitution are belong to us!
What were these idiots thinking? Doing that only for a few hours. Did they wanna see their names in the news or something?
If Comcast gets restitution for this, they'll be making extra bank to put in their pocket. Bet that hacker fools are facepalming now, eh?
With the skills they have, they could've found a legit job somewhere.
Keepin it realz indeed, Karl. | |
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 |  |  |  koitsuPremium,MVM join:2002-07-16 Mountain View, CA kudos:13 | Re: How old said by Chris 313:What were these idiots thinking? Doing that only for a few hours. Did they wanna see their names in the news or something? They weren't thinking. Instead, they were on IRC. -- Making life hard for others since 1977. I speak for myself and not my employer/affiliates of my employer. | |
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 |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | said by jimboe:are the "defendants"? OK I see. 19, 20 and 27 (minus a year ago when they commited the act). Possible 5 years in jail. phew. Can't wait to hear the sentencing for this horrific event. Rapists often get half that here in nyc. Tough. Send them to jail anyway and they can see what real penetration is like. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
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 |  |  CableGeiPremium join:2004-05-27 Brookville, OH 1 edit | Re: How old said by ThrowDemsOut:they can see what real penetration is like. I agree! Hahaha! | |
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 |  |  SingularPremium join:2008-08-13 Shelbyville, KY kudos:2 | said by ThrowDemsOut:said by jimboe:are the "defendants"? OK I see. 19, 20 and 27 (minus a year ago when they commited the act). Possible 5 years in jail. phew. Can't wait to hear the sentencing for this horrific event. Rapists often get half that here in nyc. Tough. Send them to jail anyway and they can see what real penetration is like. I lol'ed | |
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 |  |  heat84Bit Torrent Apologist join:2004-03-11 Fort Lauderdale, FL | said by ThrowDemsOut:Tough. Send them to jail anyway and they can see what real penetration is like. I thought hackers went to minimum security prisons like where Bernie Madoff is. -- Bit Torrent is my DVR. | |
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 |  dagg join:2001-03-25 Galt, CA | which just means that we need tougher standards for rapists... not lesser standards for this type of stuff.... | |
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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| I can't help but feel it's really such a well, barely minimal crime. It reminds me of the level of criminality as petty vandalism like the people who write inside toliet stalls. I love when Corporations claim they "lose" massive amounts of money due to these defacement's.
Oh well. It's a sign of the times. Punishments don't hardly ever fit the crime anymore. Real crime has low punishments and non-crime has severe punishments. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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| Re: How old said by KrK:I can't help but feel it's really such a well, barely minimal crime. It reminds me of the level of criminality as petty vandalism like the people who write inside toliet stalls. I love when Corporations claim they "lose" massive amounts of money due to these defacement's. Oh well. It's a sign of the times. Punishments don't hardly ever fit the crime anymore. Real crime has low punishments and non-crime has severe punishments. Too true. | |
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 | | heh I hope they enjoy their punishment for such a ridiculous act. They should of hacked a more worthy website that would get more positive feedback like PETA. lol | |
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| Re: heh said by brianiscool:I hope they enjoy their punishment for such a ridiculous act. They should of hacked a more worthy website that would get more positive feedback like PETA. lol or Riaa or MPAA site that would have been more fun? | |
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 RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL kudos:2 | Hack? Really? If I recall correctly, these children used social engineering to gain access to the domain registrar where Comcast's domain is registered and changed the DNS servers.
What they did wasn't hacking. These are kiddies who couldn't hack their way through a paper bag. If anything, I'd call it domain hijacking. -- CheckSite.us | YourIP.us | Reverseip.us | |
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 |  TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium join:2004-01-06 NYC Metro | Re: Hack? Really? said by Rob:If I recall correctly, these children used social engineering to gain access to the domain registrar where Comcast's domain is registered and changed the DNS servers. What they did wasn't hacking. These are kiddies who couldn't hack their way through a paper bag. If anything, I'd call it domain hijacking. How do you know what they could and couldn't do?
As far as I know, social engineering is the #1 method used to gain unauthorized access to information systems nowadays. And it's a pretty damn good one...
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 |  |  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL kudos:2 | Re: Hack? Really? Because real hackers don't waste their time on petty stuff like this. | |
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| Re: Hack? Really? I think actually most of the biggest hacks of all time were based around conning an idiot administrative assistant into giving up a password over the phone. I'm no hacker, but I know a few, and I'm pretty sure most hackers would agree that manipulation of dumb people is about 50% (or more) of the equation... | |
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I have no idea what that means. | |
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 |  |  |  |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Social engineering they call it. It's the path of least resistance/most success, and is exploited often. | |
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| Re: Hack? Really? said by KrK:Social engineering they call it. It's the path of least resistance/most success, and is exploited often. Definitely true. all the antiviruses, secure operating systems, firewalls, complex passwords etc fail in the face of a good social engineer and a willing dupe. It requires little hacking skill once the target has handed over the keys. The skill is in the preparation, research of the target and convincing the victim to cooperate.
Those engineers will steal your beer.  -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis | |
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differentiate ( your word of the day !! ) between script kiddies and hackers.....anyone moron can run a script except bill gates that is.... | |
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 |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | a big mistake these kids made was they thought they where cool redirecting comcast.net and then they melted every host they tried for their message. they should have researched the volume comcast.net handles each hour before trying to redirect it lol. Rumor is the portal is one of the higher traffic sites. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 | | Court paperwork On the verdict paperwork instead of guilty does it say "pwn3d"? | |
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 aaronwtPremium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA | Throw then in jail for the maxmium sentence And also impose the maxmimum fine plus restitution.
Then maybe people will think twice about doing crap like that. | |
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 |  VanPremium join:2009-07-08 New Orleans, LA | Doing that would not deter a single person from such a thing.
These kids (as said above) were novices who hadn't a clue what they were getting themselves into
Send them to jail for a short while, slap probation, and move on..... | |
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 | | The $100 That's just a fee tacked on to the sentence. You know like having to pay a fee for an extra bag at the airport ticket counter.
There ya go.... A way to make more money for prisons! Tack on a "sentencing fee"! | |
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 1 edit | Proof of cost? I'd like to know how a little downtime and restoration of a backup cost Comcast about "$129,000". There's no possible way they actually can convince a judge or jury that they lost that much in such a period due to lost advertising based on CPM. It's not possible.
Not to say I condone what was done. I personally know how much of a pain in the ass it can be restoring a site or portal from a defacement, but I also know it doesn't cost $129,000 to restore a back up (which frankly should be done weekly at bare minimal).
I'm sorry, but the punishment does not fit the crime. I've seen murderer's walk with less time than that. Digital crimes seem to carry ridiculously large punishments which are entirely disproportionate to crimes not performed in the digital world. You'd have less of a punishment for stealing a cd from a store than from going onto The Pirate Bay and snagging a torrent, and subsequently being caught and prosecuted. | |
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