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12:03PM Friday Jun 06 2008 by Karl Bode
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Comcast today repeated its claims that they'll offer offer the majority of their customers DOCSIS 3.0 (and their shiny, new $150, 50Mbps/5Mbps tier) by early 2010. The company claims
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that 20% of their customers should have access to the faster speeds by the end of this year. Most other cable operators are taking a wait and see approach to the technology, and won't begin serious deployments for a year or two. As I mentioned a few weeks back, insiders have told me that the Sarasota, Florida market should see those faster speeds sometime this month.

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With a cap of course...

50Mbps with a cap of 250GB...horrible.
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Re: With a cap of course...

and by 2010 it'll be 100mbit with a 50GB cap =P

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Re: With a cap of course...

Yeah, but they're still the BMW of the interweb.
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Re: With a cap of course...

CARBQ!!!!!!!!!!! marshmallows? Or.. Burn baby burn let that sucker burn!!

both work there =)

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Thats almost irrelevant. You will be hard pressed to find a site on the internet that can serve data at that rate. In fact, one of the only things you can do "full throttle" is steal content, and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. Email and websurfing wont be any faster on a 50Mbps connection than they will be on a 3Mbps connection in most cases.
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Re: With a cap of course...

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. ..
caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring.

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Re: With a cap of course...

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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. ..
caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring.
Thats your opinion, however my statement that most sites cant be accessed any faster (on a 50Mbps connection) is an irrefutable fact. Each time DSLR reports about faster internet speeds there is inevitably an avalanche of "now I can reach the cap faster" posts. I am simply looking to point out that with the exception of piracy, most "normal" websites will behave in the same manor, and thus your caps wont be reached any quicker.
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Re: With a cap of course...

Not true, I can access content on Steam at my full speed allowed by Comcast. Whenever I buy a new game from them and start the download, I max out (way over 3) the entire transfer.

You don't have to be a copyright infringer for Comcast to not want you to use your bandwidth. They hate all customers equally.

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I guess an AppleTV would be a bad idea.
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Re: With a cap of course...

said by RR206 See Profile :

I guess an AppleTV would be a bad idea.
Well yeah but not for the reason you're thinking. HD movies from Apple are about 6 GB max. So even watching 1 day would be 180 GB and leave 70 GB left over. Last time I checked 30 HD movies from apple would cost $120-$150 to rent. If you can afford that you can afford cap overages.

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Re: With a cap of course...

Comcast hopes you will afford Comcast PPV-VOD instead (which is the real point of having the caps)

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That's because most sites are small...most people don't go to most sites. They frequent large ones and large ones have plenty of capacity.
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Unfortunately the underlying technology is failed....you can only bond so many channels together, which is what DOCSIS 3.0 does..there are limitations inherit in DOCSIS 3.0, sure nobody needs the speed now, but within 5 years it will be DOCSIS 4.x bla bla bla....trying to keep up with FTTP....run MTF run....

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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. ..
caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring.
Thats your opinion, however my statement that most sites cant be accessed any faster (on a 50Mbps connection) is an irrefutable fact. Each time DSLR reports about faster internet speeds there is inevitably an avalanche of "now I can reach the cap faster" posts. I am simply looking to point out that with the exception of piracy, most "normal" websites will behave in the same manor, and thus your caps wont be reached any quicker.
Many of us have SEVERAL people pulling data at the SAME time, so your argument is short sighted and doesn't think further ahead than simply getting email and browsing by 1 person. Silly rabbit!

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said by nasadude See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. ..
caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring.
Thats your opinion, however my statement that most sites cant be accessed any faster (on a 50Mbps connection) is an irrefutable fact. Each time DSLR reports about faster internet speeds there is inevitably an avalanche of "now I can reach the cap faster" posts. I am simply looking to point out that with the exception of piracy, most "normal" websites will behave in the same manor, and thus your caps wont be reached any quicker.
Many of us have SEVERAL people pulling data at the SAME time, so your argument is short sighted and doesn't think further ahead than simply getting email and browsing by 1 person. Silly rabbit!

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said by nasadude See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. ..
caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring.
Caps are being implemented to get more money out of the top 1 percent of the people who use XXXgb a month.

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Actually that's false.

More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet.

Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def.

So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content.
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Re: With a cap of course...

said by bentman78 See Profile :

Actually that's false.

More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet.

Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def.

So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content.
I agree. I can tell the difference in my 15Mbps connection and a Time Warner 5Mbps connection ... even though latency is about the same.

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said by bentman78 See Profile :

Actually that's false.

More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet.

Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def.

So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content.
Well, you raise an interesting argument. First let me say that when it comes to streaming content, you can only watch that content as fast as it is meant to be displayed. This means that even if you have a 10Gbps pipe the movie wont play any faster, so there will be no difference between between 3Mbps end user or a 50Mbps end user. Yes, sites are pushing more media content from their websites but unless you want to watch/listen to it in "fast forward mode" the extra bandwidth wont do anything for you. Neflix, Joost, and Hulu will provide exactly the same end user experience whether you have a 50Mbps connection or a 3Mbps connection (aside from the content loading slightly quicker).

Contrary to popular belief, online games hardly use any bandwidth. In fact, most dont use much more than a few VoIP calls worth at a given time (if that). Again, an online player with a 50Mbps connection wont notice any difference over that of a 768k player. With online games, its latency that matters and bandwidth has absolutely nothing to do with it.

As for purchasing/downloading HD movies from places like Xbox live, that too is irrelevant. To begin with, you need to pay for that content so its not like you are going to be downloading 24/7. Secondly, you plan on watching those movies at some point, right? The fact remains that a 2 hour HD movie will still take 2 hours to watch, regardless of how long it takes you to download it. Also, the Xbox site (and the Xbox itself) might not even be able to properly manage a 100Mbps request at this point in time (since nobody has them yet), so the who argument is moot.

Dont get me wrong, having more bandwidth is a good thing. My point is that other than people who are pirating (fill in the blank), the vast majority of end users wont be reaching their caps any quicker than they are now. The infrastructure of most sites simply wont allow it.
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Re: With a cap of course...

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by bentman78 See Profile :

Actually that's false.

More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet.

Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def.

So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content.
Well, you raise an interesting argument. First let me say that when it comes to streaming content, you can only watch that content as fast as it is meant to be displayed. This means that even if you have a 10Gbps pipe the movie wont play any faster, so there will be no difference between between 3Mbps end user or a 50Mbps end user. Yes, sites are pushing more media content from their websites but unless you want to watch/listen to it in "fast forward mode" the extra bandwidth wont do anything for you. Neflix, Joost, and Hulu will provide exactly the same end user experience whether you have a 50Mbps connection or a 3Mbps connection (aside from the content loading slightly quicker).

Contrary to popular belief, online games hardly use any bandwidth. In fact, most dont use much more than a few VoIP calls worth at a given time (if that). Again, an online player with a 50Mbps connection wont notice any difference over that of a 768k player. With online games, its latency that matters and bandwidth has absolutely nothing to do with it.

As for purchasing/downloading HD movies from places like Xbox live, that too is irrelevant. To begin with, you need to pay for that content so its not like you are going to be downloading 24/7. Secondly, you plan on watching those movies at some point, right? The fact remains that a 2 hour HD movie will still take 2 hours to watch, regardless of how long it takes you to download it. Also, the Xbox site (and the Xbox itself) might not even be able to properly manage a 100Mbps request at this point in time (since nobody has them yet), so the who argument is moot.

Dont get me wrong, having more bandwidth is a good thing. My point is that other than people who are pirating (fill in the blank), the vast majority of end users wont be reaching their caps any quicker than they are now. The infrastructure of most sites simply wont allow it.
there's a difference between watching a movie on a 50mbps pipe and 3mbps pipe. Just like you cant stream a 196mb 2minute 30 second movie trailer from www.apple.com/trailers @ 1080p on a 3mbps pipe unless you sit there and wait like 7 minutes or so for it to load. You wouldnt be able to stream a whole movie @1080p. The reason for this is the same reason you cant really stream a movie file while on dialup unless you sit there and wait for like an hour (not enough bandwidth).

If you think 1080p is big, wait until the new hd resolutions come out which are even larger.
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said by Frank See ProfileIf you think 1080p is big, wait until the new hd resolutions come out which are even larger.
Only 25% of people have HDTVs and I would hazzard a guess that most are only 720p or 1080i. HD downloads from Apple or XBL are 720p. Nobody broadcasts in 1080p nor do they have such plans in the near future. So anything higher than 1080p is at least 20 years off at the earliest. I'm not really worried about 2028 right now.
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Re: With a cap of course...

Microsoft virtual earth uses quite a bit when you are browsing around the large cities with lots of skyscraper models

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Online gaming barely takes up any bandwidth, latency is far more important
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I can download video content at that speed from LEGAL pay sites.

Your comment is ignorant.

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said by Sturm :

I can download video content at that speed from LEGAL pay sites.

Your comment is ignorant.
Yes you can, but you will need to pay for it so you wont leave you connection running 24/7 like people do with Bit Torrent. Also, unless you are unemployed you can only watch so many movies in a given period of time. There comes a point that the number of movies you can download exceeds the amount of free time you have to watch them. This effectively negates any "benefit" you gain from downloading them quicker.
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Re: With a cap of course...

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by Sturm :

I can download video content at that speed from LEGAL pay sites.

Your comment is ignorant.
Yes you can, but you will need to pay for it so you wont leave you connection running 24/7 like people do with Bit Torrent. Also, unless you are unemployed you can only watch so many movies in a given period of time. There comes a point that the number of movies you can download exceeds the amount of free time you have to watch them. This effectively negates any "benefit" you gain from downloading them quicker.
Actually, no it does not. Being able to download them faster allows things like instant start to watch the movie while it's downloading, or gives you the ability to start watching the movie faster if you have to download the whole thing ... if I can download a movie in 20-30 minutes, rather than 24 hours, that's a better product to me. A higher speed allows this.

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said by MattE See Profile :

Actually, no it does not. Being able to download them faster allows things like instant start to watch the movie while it's downloading, or gives you the ability to start watching the movie faster if you have to download the whole thing ... if I can download a movie in 20-30 minutes, rather than 24 hours, that's a better product to me. A higher speed allows this.
Incorrect. The "instant start" thing that Netlfix offers has nothing to do with your bandwidth. They basically have a (very limited) selection of movies queued up on the head end of their network of servers. When you select instant start, they stream that particular title directly to you instead of waiting for it to download. As long as you have enough bandwidth to support a video stream (anything much above 1.5Mbps will work fine) you are in good shape.
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Re: With a cap of course...

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by MattE See Profile :

Actually, no it does not. Being able to download them faster allows things like instant start to watch the movie while it's downloading, or gives you the ability to start watching the movie faster if you have to download the whole thing ... if I can download a movie in 20-30 minutes, rather than 24 hours, that's a better product to me. A higher speed allows this.
Incorrect. The "instant start" thing that Netlfix offers has nothing to do with your bandwidth. They basically have a (very limited) selection of movies queued up on the head end of their network of servers. When you select instant start, they stream that particular title directly to you instead of waiting for it to download. As long as you have enough bandwidth to support a video stream (anything much above 1.5Mbps will work fine) you are in good shape.
Ah no. Netflix uses clusters not "head ends" to stream video to you , And They are working on HD streaming , soon that would blow the 1.5 mbit idea out of the water.
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Re: With a cap of course...

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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by MattE See Profile :

Actually, no it does not. Being able to download them faster allows things like instant start to watch the movie while it's downloading, or gives you the ability to start watching the movie faster if you have to download the whole thing ... if I can download a movie in 20-30 minutes, rather than 24 hours, that's a better product to me. A higher speed allows this.
Incorrect. The "instant start" thing that Netlfix offers has nothing to do with your bandwidth. They basically have a (very limited) selection of movies queued up on the head end of their network of servers. When you select instant start, they stream that particular title directly to you instead of waiting for it to download. As long as you have enough bandwidth to support a video stream (anything much above 1.5Mbps will work fine) you are in good shape.
Ah no. Netflix uses clusters not "head ends" to stream video to you , And They are working on HD streaming , soon that would blow the 1.5 mbit idea out of the water.
You clearly dont understand what the term "head end" means. I never said the used "head end", I said they use servers (yes, clusters!) at their head end to deliver the content. Yawn......
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

Thats almost irrelevant. You will be hard pressed to find a site on the internet that can serve data at that rate. In fact, one of the only things you can do "full throttle" is steal content, and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. Email and websurfing wont be any faster on a 50Mbps connection than they will be on a 3Mbps connection in most cases.
Doesn't anyone have a family or perhaps a roommate or two? This does not have to be just one computer utilizing this bandwidth. Geez, it only takes a couple of teenagers to bog down a network. This increased bandwidth may not be necessary for a single user, but anyone with a home network and multiple users might find the increases to be a godsend.

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Re: With a cap of course...

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

Thats almost irrelevant. You will be hard pressed to find a site on the internet that can serve data at that rate. In fact, one of the only things you can do "full throttle" is steal content, and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. Email and websurfing wont be any faster on a 50Mbps connection than they will be on a 3Mbps connection in most cases.
Doesn't anyone have a family or perhaps a roommate or two? This does not have to be just one computer utilizing this bandwidth. Geez, it only takes a couple of teenagers to bog down a network. This increased bandwidth may not be necessary for a single user, but anyone with a home network and multiple users might find the increases to be a godsend.
That's what I was thinking. YouTube, gaming, VoIP, and horribly inefficient sites like Facebook and MySpace ... having more bandwidth helps.

Not to mention upstarts like Hulu, the DTV Roku, AppleTV, etc.

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said by jmn1207 See Profile :

Geez, it only takes a couple of teenagers to bog down a network.
No question, but if you review my original statement I said that this shouldnt effect anyone NOT stealing content. What exactly is it you think the teenagers who "bog down the network" are doing?? (Hint: Its not homework!)
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

In fact, one of the only things you can do "full throttle" is steal copy content, and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented.
Fixed it for you.
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said by Amr See Profile :

50Mbps with a cap of 250GB...horrible.
even more horrible is 50Mbps at $150/mo.; the only people that would pay for that are likely to be power users.

throw in the cap, which will only be reached quicker at 50Mbps, and I can see people saying "why bother".

seems to be contradictory things going on in the broadband business.

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Comcast doesn't have caps.

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Re: With a cap of course...

Lies.
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said by Cabal See Profile :

Comcast doesn't have caps.
they are trial running caps as we speak, in VA and PA.
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Re: With a cap of course...

said by nasadude See Profile :

they are trial running caps as we speak, in VA and PA.
They are running trials for rate limiting heavy users during times of congestion. That's not a cap.
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you are right, my bad. was too lazy to go back and edit.
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said by Amr See Profile :

50Mbps with a cap of 250GB...horrible.
Just because you have 50 Mbps does that mean you have to download 24/7 at that speed? Isn't the benefit of having that speed is to download FASTER not MORE?

Sorry but you could download 8 GB a day and still not go over your cap. Exactly how many GB a day do you intend to downloading LEGALLY? At least half their customers don't even download that in a month. What maybe 10-15% at best download that much in a week?
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Re: With a cap of course...

said by BF69 See Profile :

said by Amr See Profile :

50Mbps with a cap of 250GB...horrible.
Just because you have 50 Mbps does that mean you have to download 24/7 at that speed? Isn't the benefit of having that speed is to download FASTER not MORE?

Sorry but you could download 8 GB a day and still not go over your cap. Exactly how many GB a day do you intend to downloading LEGALLY? At least half their customers don't even download that in a month. What maybe 10-15% at best download that much in a week?
I'm going to point something out to you. If you can download a file 5X faster wouldn't that mean you would have 5X more free time on the web to do other things such as download another Video?

I don't think you realize file size on HD content. Have you looked at the size of a full Blu Ray movie?

Your looking at 20GB easy and the fact is HDTV's are so much more affordable and sales are going up and up. Not to mention gas prices on the rise.

Its only a matter of time before downloading vs driving to the rental store or waiting for a video in the mail will be eliminated.

If I had the bandwidth to simply stream and download a full 1080P HD rental movie I'd probably download 3 or 4 a week. Even at 20GB thats 80GB per week at a cost of say $2.50 per rental so $10 bucks a week. Christ I'd have that tied up driving to the rental place to pick them up.

Not to mention people that actually network and have more than one user on there setup. What happens when dad likes to download HD movies, Mom likes to stream here TV series, daughter likes Itunes, and there son likes porn?

Anyone that doesn't see overall usage going up and up is a naive fool.

As bandwidth gets faster and faster the options you have to do something increase. Why else would everyone's overall usage have went up and caps become a problem all of the sudden?

P2P has been around for quite some time so don't blame torrents for the problem. People downloaded/uploaded just as much via P2P before Torrents were invented.
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Re: With a cap of course...

Haha This reminds me of when Bill Gates said that all we needed was 1mb of ram and we would be set for the future!!.. Plain and simple...agreed... caps and speed should go hand and hand... heck... i would even go about saying that 250 was fine for 8mbit but now those with 16 could be pushing it

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Awesome

Now we can reach our cap faster than before.

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100Mbps / 2Mbps? Great package!

Wow. I am excited.

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Re: 100Mbps / 2Mbps? Great package!

It will probably be less. Like 100M / 128, and offer you a home package for 10 computers.

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Wow. I am excited.

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June 6th, @11:50AM

And Verizon could be at 400Mb

Verizon has already demonstrated 100Mb residential over B-PON with Verizon employees, currently offers 50Mb/20Mb service in select markets and with G-PON which is currently being deployed could easily support 400Mb.

Comcast will have to do better than bragging about 100Mb service not to be seen for 2 years.

How about deploying speeds their network can actually support without draconian network management and drop the prices a bit?

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kba4

join:2001-10-23
Akron, OH
·RoadRunner Cable

caps?

If they have any ethics to them at all, then the data caps will either be increased or lifted completely with the new DOCSIS implementation, because from what we've been told v.3 alleviates congestion problems, and therefore 'hogs' should no longer be a problem.

perhaps instead of 100Mbps, they should simply offer 10-20Mbps and not pack their network so tight now. I'm sure most users will not mind the 1/5 speed difference if data-caps are removed. the only reason for touting higher speeds IMO is for sales literature, and it will more than likely still include an 'up to' asterisk.
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