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Comcast Expands New Throttling Tests
As FCC ruling demands Comcast do nothing differently...
by Karl Bode 02:14PM Friday Aug 01 2008
Today, as expected, the FCC voted 3-2 to do absolutely nothing to Comcast for the company's adventures in packet forgery. While the FCC ruling is being hailed as a victory by network neutrality advocates, and declares that Comcast willfully misled consumers about the throttling of P2P traffic, it creates no new guidelines, may not stand up in court, and ultimately doesn't ask the cable company to do anything they weren't already voluntarily doing.

Out of fear of new regulation, Comcast already promised to employ a "protocol agnostic" network management solution by the end of this year. In its current form, that includes a 250GB cap and overage fees, increased enforcement of DMCA letter violations, and the specific throttling of high-consumption users back to "above DSL" speeds. To keep critics at bay, Comcast will need to be very transparent about what triggers the throttling, for how long the throttling will occur, and what speeds throttled users will see.

We remain committed to fully disclosing all the details to all of our customers, once they are determined
-Comcast on new throttling technique
So far, Comcast hasn't announced those specifics because they're still in the process of determining them via real world network tests. In June, a leaked memo indicated that Comcast had been testing their shiny new throttling system in the Chambersburg, Pennsylvania and Warrenton, Virginia markets since March.

"Once testing has been completed and a new management technique has been identified, we will publish a description of this new technique along with additional FAQs to benefit our customers prior to rolling it out nationally," the memo read. The memo also claimed that users will be notified in real time of the throttling "should this be necessary and technically practical."

Today a new memo indicates that the Company's tests have expanded into the Colorado Springs, Colorado and East Orange and Lake City Florida markets. "We expect to continue these trials for at least 30 days as we evolve the new protocol-agnostic network management technique," the statement notes.

I asked Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas about the expansion, and whether Comcast was any closer to releasing specific data on the precise nature of the throttling.

"Yes, we are expanding the trials to get more data to determine the best solution," says Douglas. "Again, the goal is to migrate to a protocol-agnostic technique before the end of the year and we remain committed to fully disclosing all the details to all of our customers, once they are determined." According to Douglas, Comcast's goal is "to be as transparent as possible."


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cornelius785

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*sniff sniff*

does anyone smell a troll around these parts?


P Ness
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SO where are my under usage discounts?

so if they put a value on over using the service what if you use substancially less then the average customer?

oh yea thats right its only about punishing people that

DONT GIVE MAXIMUM PROFIT MARGINS.

if they cared about quality of the network and the people who clogged them, then they would give you a discount for not clogging them
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Re: What gives...?

LOL. I don't see anyone holding your balls to the fire and forcing you read Karl's news stories. Matter of fact, you're quite welcome to leave. Don't think anyone would miss you.



rsa0

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I don't understand this

Here is my 2 cents:
a) I hate Comcast with passion, for past customer "non-service" and crappy HSI
b)although I hate them, I can't wonder myself: why people are complaining and still using their service?
c) if you are so unhappy, is like a divorce: kick the b!@&# out of the house, or leave ! go with other provider
d) no other provider in the area ? - then tough, is your best alternative to none
e) don't like alternative (d) ? get yourself a T1
Basically, is their network, and they can do with it pretty much what they want...your only say is when you vote with your money !
Is like RIAA/MPAA - stop feeding them with your money. I did - and I am Comcast free now.
I know this is going to p.o. a lot of people, but that is my 2 cents...
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Re: Such CRAP!

Your OPINION - not proof. Unless you can provide some secret Comcast documents laying out this.



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Re: yes!

said by ninjatutle:

I have made a poster to clear up all inaccuracies. I will hang this on the wall to remind myself.
Good lord, don't quit your day job of spreading FUD to become a poster maker. That thing is as bad or even worse than your P2P blanket statements!
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Re: Meter me!

said by Ned :

So, how are we going to know the amount of usage?
Is Comcast going to provide an on-line meter like
a water meter?
Even if they don't give you any reliable meter to track yourself, Comcast users here, for years, have known that they have to monitor themselves.

Put Tomato firmware on your router and it monitors all BW useage on the line and put DUMeter on any of your computers for individual monitoring.

Tomato Firmware:

»www.polarcloud.com/tomato

DUMeter:

»www.dumeter.com/main.php?SID=fc7···1c5301c2

That way, you can monitor yourself and tell Comcast off with some evidence when they say you've "gone too far" or "used too much" over the limit.


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Re: yes!

said by ninjatutle:

Sure man

I provide proof that the top usuage of P2P torrent is stealing movies and suddenly I am a theif myself
Searches are now proof of downloading? You are getting as bad as the MPAA and the RIAA....


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said by ninjatutle:

The shady ones are those using P2P to steal.
What about people like myself?
I use P2P to get LEGAL videos.
Got VUZE?

HD Trailers, independent videos - all perfectly legal - yet I get my uploads trashed as well.
But that's ok, huh?

P2P is not a crime.
Not all P2P users are stealing.
Get over yourself!
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Ninja,
Looks like from the other thread you were browsing torrents yourself. Let me guess, just to keep "informed" of what the pirates are doing, correct?