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join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA | Don't throw rocks at us! But... We'll gladly keep throwing jabs back. Seriously, Comcast is acting like a bunch of babies. "If you can't take the heat, get out of the fire" | |
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join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT | Re: Don't throw rocks at us! But... Actually, it's "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."  | |
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ieolus
Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA | Forget the speed... ..it is about the stability of DSL over Cable. I'll take that any day of the week over some lousy bandwidth.
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N3OGH
It's Biden Vs. the Biscuit. Sarah's hot
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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| Re: Forget the speed... said by ieolus  :..it is about the stability of DSL over Cable. I'll take that any day of the week over some lousy bandwidth.
Agreed.
What's the point of bandwidth if you can't connect?
When I had Cable, the connection would go in the shitter every Sunday morning like clockwork. Drove me nuts. I want to read the paper on line, and nothing works.
Great way to spend a Sunday...
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join:2000-10-17
Marietta, GA | I totally agree. I guess I'm more like the "average user" where I couldn't care less about speed. I like a nice, stable connection, and that's what I've had for many years. | |
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halfband
Premium
join:2002-06-01
Huntsville, AL
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| Re: Forget the speed... All depends on where you live. In my area [former bellsouth] it is DSL that is unreliable, if you can get it at all. Comcast cable is rock solid and fast. This could be reversed at the other end of town, I don't know.
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join:2000-10-17
Marietta, GA
| Re: Forget the speed... said by halfband :All depends on where you live. Oh believe me, I realize that. I used to hear some friends complaining about Comcast here where I never really had any issues with my Bellsouth AT&T DSL, but I think that was mostly when Comcast first took over for AT&T Broadband. Now I rarely, if ever, hear anything bad regarding their connectivity. | |
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Homebrew1994
Betzwood Basement Brewery
join:2001-11-15
King Of Prussia, PA
·Comcast
| Re: Forget the speed... I totally agree. You can only compare these if they are in houses next to each other.
My parents, living a few blocks away from me, have Verizon DSL. It is the most unreliable connection of anything I have ever heard of. There are people here that swear by the stability of their DSL connection.
I have Comcast and cannot remember the last time I had a connection issue. I have friends a few miles away that have horrible connections with Comcast.
Of course, Comcast completely rewired my entire town a few years ago. In my neighborhood it is all underground. Verizon is using 50 year old wiring. In their neighborhood it is all on poles.
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join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA | Re: Forget the speed... DSL is engineered for stability. Unless you have a fault on the line you shouldn't lose connection. | |
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Homebrew1994
Betzwood Basement Brewery
join:2001-11-15
King Of Prussia, PA
·Comcast
| Re: Forget the speed... said by bogey780 :DSL is engineered for stability. Unless you have a fault on the line you shouldn't lose connection. I cannot say why their connection is so bad, but I would suspect the really old infrastructure in their neighborhood.
I would imagine that cable is also engineered for stability. I can't imagine someone designing instability into the system on purpose.
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join:2006-01-31
Syracuse, NY
| As if enough people haven't agreed already, I personally found that the cable connection in my area isn't oversold so it's very stable... my DSL on the other hand decided to take a crap every time it thunderstormed. Really interfered with checking the local weather radar online... | |
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Maarvin
Premium
join:2005-04-11
Denver, CO | Forget the speed, forget all of it! The bottom line is money, money, money. That's all. | |
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CO_Chris
Premium
join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | How is 1.5 faster ? How is 1.5 faster then my cable 6.0 really Qwest you should have done a real test.Not everyone can get your 7.0 mps it's more like 5% | |
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N3OGH
It's Biden Vs. the Biscuit. Sarah's hot
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon Online DSL
| Love those turtles, but... OK, from a totally impartial standpoint, I gotta say I love those turtles. The commercials are funny, well written, and very clever. I love the one where Bill is sitting at the diner, telling the waitress not to crowd him. Funny stuff.
But, I dropped Comcast a year ago for Verizon DSL, and I'm glad I did. Comcast was promising me (at the time) 6 MB down, and the best I could get from them was 3. That was with good numbers on the cable modem, mind you.
Verizon's DSL offering has been a totally different experience. The connection is rock solid. I've had one outage since I got the service,and that was a widespread outage. I consistently get the 3 MB down and 768 up I'm promised, and it's $10 a month cheaper.
Comcast touts themselves as the "BMW" of services. While this might be true (BMW's are know to have more quality issues than some other luxury imports), DSL is hardly the Hyundai. It's more like the Toyota Camry. Big enough and roomy enough to do the job for most, with excellent reliability.
Of course, if Comcast is the BMW, and DSL is the Hyundai, what does that make Fios????
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N3OGH
It's Biden Vs. the Biscuit. Sarah's hot
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Love those turtles, but... Current Hyundais are a good value and reliable, but back in the late 80's and early 90's, they were garbage. I can remember stories of dealerships being out and out abandoned because no one would buy one.
Hyundai's have gone a long way as far as quality and image. If I was in the market for a new car, I might consider one..
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benecewicz
Premium
join:2005-04-08
Parkville, MD
| Thats funny... I just traded in my Hyundai for a Yaris for the same reason. It was a loaded Sante Fe, so it actually paid for about %70 of the Yaris price. I didn't have much of a problem with the Hyundai til a couple months ago, when they called fixing the power window an 'adjustment' and charged me $180 instead of it being covered by warranty.... bastards... | |
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join:2005-02-03
Hawthorne, FL | Wouldn't Fios be a Ferrari? Then again I guess that would make OC connections more like far into the future cars :P | |
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | Re: Love those turtles, but... No, it wouldn't be. I see 15/2 listed as the highest FIOS tier, but I get about 20/1.5 with Comcast. Yes, it's PowerBoosted and not permanent, but for me and most users who don't pirate movies and such all day, it doesn't matter. | |
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@hawaiiantel.net
thumbs down from:
Jim Gurd
| Verizon is now in total league with the Carlye Group!
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join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Re: I love my Hyundai it will last as long and is cheaper Agreed. Hyundai was #2 or #3 in JD Powers Customer satisfaction surveys. They've come a long way and what's rather bad for the incumbents is they do most of it with our labor here in the states. | |
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join:2002-01-13
Independence, MO
·Speakeasy
| Re: I love my Hyundai it will last as long and is cheaper said by rradina :Agreed. Hyundai was #2 or #3 in JD Powers Customer satisfaction surveys. They've come a long way and what's rather bad for the incumbents is they do most of it with our labor here in the states. Actually Hyundai has set up operations here see Hyundai USA's website Specifically about the large plant they built in Alabama
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join:2006-01-07
Stow, MA | Re: I love my Hyundai it will last as long and is cheaper It should have been Toyota VS Kia . | |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
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| Half the story. In the war of who's faster it's all half stories. It really depends on where you live, what is available, what does it cost, and host stable is it? These factors will vary from area to area and blanket statements cannot be made.
At my house Comcast is faster. I don't know what it's stability is, but it's not more stable than my perfectly stable DSL. The reason I pick DSL in stead of cable is price. My 3.0M DSL is cheaper than the 8.0M cable. The extra price for the extra speed is not worth it.
And there is no way anyone can call my 3.0M connection slow. Pages pop up nice and fast. The only time I notice a difference is when grabbing ISOs. I'm certainly not going to pay an extra $20/month so when I grab an ISO it takes 5 minutes in stead of 9.
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join:2003-05-28
| Re: Half the story. said by Maxo : The reason I pick DSL in stead of cable is price. The extra price for the extra speed is not worth it. I'm certainly not going to pay an extra $20/month so when I grab an ISO it takes 5 minutes in stead of 9. So why don't you save another $10 bucks a month and go Netzero if speed is NO FACTOR? | |
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PeteC2
Ballad Of A Thin Man
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-20
Bristol, CT
clubs:
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| Re: Half the story. Try reading...he didn't say that speed was "NO FACTOR", rather that the extra speed was not worth the price differential...and for many, many folks, it is not.
If you need every last bit of performance, regardless of price, nothing wrong with that at all, but I pay less for DSL, at a speed that is quite good, with absolutely solid reliability...maybe that is not for everybody, but apparently lots of folks like that just fine.
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26 | Sheee at! I had to duck when I read the headline . . .  | |
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Gbcue
Shiny
Premium
join:2001-09-30
Sacramento, CA
clubs:
| Comcast = Cingular Comcast is the Cingular of cable companies. Sure, it's got great speed, but there's no point in that speed if you can't get connected and are always dropped. Same with Cingular, what's the point of the "fewest dropped calls" if you can't even connect a call in the first place!
I'll keep my ATT DSL and T-mobile for wireless.
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
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| Re: Comcast = Cingular T-Mobile wireless waahaaha
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toadlife
Premium
join:2004-05-03
Coalinga, CA | Re: Comcast = Cingular Haven't had a problem with T-Mobile in 5 years. Guess YMMV. | |
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me2000
join:2003-06-23
Waukegan, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| said by Gbcue :Comcast is the Cingular of cable companies. Sure, it's got great speed, but there's no point in that speed if you can't get connected and are always dropped. Same with Cingular, what's the point of the "fewest dropped calls" if you can't even connect a call in the first place! I'll keep my ATT DSL and T-mobile for wireless. I completely agree with you. My T-Mobile service has been awesome and the prices are cheaper too. | |
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Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
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| And not that I do but... If I wanted to host a server or download 6, 7 or 800 gigs a month I could. And without getting my service taken away.  | |
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1kwikgt
Premium
join:2001-08-02
·Comcast
·AT&T Midwest
| Comcast Honestly, in my area its Comcast or Atat dsl, and Comcast is actually good in my surrounding area, good pings/stable, only thing im pissed about is the slow ass upload speed of 384, 8/768 is not included in their triple play so i cant get that. They need to up the damn upload speed already. | |
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join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| Re: Comcast said by ztmike :Honestly, in my area its Comcast or Atat dsl, and Comcast is actually good in my surrounding area, good pings/stable, only thing im pissed about is the slow ass upload speed of 384, 8/768 is not included in their triple play so i cant get that. They need to up the damn upload speed already. You can still get the 8/768 in triple play package. Its just an additional $10.
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i5050MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| Comcast goes the extra mile... literally! I can't even get DSL, it basically trips over its own shoe laces a couple miles down the street.
Yet here I am, way out in rural backwater Coloma, with a smokin' hot 20Mb Comcast cable modem. It's rock-solid 24/7/365. Hell, I'll have DOCSIS 3 and 100 Mb speed before the clowns at the phone company ever actually deploy their U-Farce service.
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Rob A
Jets 19 - Steelers 16
Premium
join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ | Comcast... Wow that is desperate, crappy ad campaign, misleading too. | |
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gargzo
How You Doin?
join:2000-11-02
South Bend, IN
·AT&T Midwest
| Comcast vs AT&T DSL Well I had comcast and am now using AT&T DSL. I like it much better. Comcast had too many and too often slow downs.
I don't have that with AT&T DSL. I am an online gamer and my pings to most servers are usually among the lowest.
I like to think of Comcast being a Bonnieville Salts Flats car and my DSL as a Top Fuel Dragster. Comcast may in the end have a higher speed but my DSL gets there now! I could go faster than i do right now but saving a few buck per month is also important.
Also my upload with DSL is more, sort of helps me with my Slingbox. | |
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laura
Domestic Bliss
Premium
join:2002-04-16
San Jose, CA | push it you push it! push it real good!
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
| BMW vs. Hyundai pretty apt.. Both can easily surpass the speed limit (ability of website to send data) but one costs a whole lot more.
Also, at least recently, I'd say that Hyundai has better reliability than BMW (which has specific mileages where key(ie. expensive) parts will almost always break; granted BMW has a $0 cost warranty, so generally you don't end up paying anything but time).
BMW will beat Hyundai everytime in a measured race, but if the goal is to get there while spending the least, Hyundai will win everytime. If you both have to get there without exceeding the speed limit, then it will always be tie. (unless your BMW breaks down)
When both are available at actual broadband speeds, they're both fine for their intended purposes at present. | |
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Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: BMW vs. Hyundai pretty apt.. I'm sorry - but those commercials are HILARIOUS! 
Comcast should win a marketing award for them.
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Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
·Comcast
| Comcast VS Verizon I only had Verizon 1.5Meg speed before I switched to Comcast. Comcast is the better speed. 4-6Meg but speed boost makes the deal. Price is an issue I would had gone back to DSL if I can get the 3M speed and Comcast changed me unbundled broadband fee of $52 for 4Megs. I voided the unbundled broadband fee by just buying basic cable.
I only had one slow down compared to multi day outage with Verizon. | |
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MJRudzik
join:2002-01-13
Independence, MO
·Speakeasy
| Comcast Vs DSL I've had both DSL and Comcast. Here in Missouri we have AT&T as the DSL last mile regardless of actual provider. The DSL was solid when it was SBC. Since they changed to AT&T it went to crap. Constant disconnects unexplained recurrent shorts at the CO and incomplete tickets. I Feb I got fed with both AT&T and Dish Net so I switched to Comcast Triple Play. I 6 months in and haven't had one slow down yet. I always get my full 6mbit connection and my power oost works great. The only tech issue I have had was when the hd in my dvr died suddenly. But I just drove over to the office and got another no biggie. I never thought I'd say it but i wish that I had given Comcast a chance earlier. | |
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kwayzcat
join:2002-10-22
Chicago, IL | Comcast is not faster than DSL I guarantee my usable speeds on my 6.0/768 Speakeasy line blow Comcast out of the water. Here in Chicago, Comcast offers 6mb down speeds big whoop so does AT&T and its CHEAPER. | |
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join:2002-01-13
Independence, MO
·Speakeasy
| Re: Comcast is not faster than DSL I can see where in Chicago you could probably get better phone service but here in Independence Mo I know of few people who can actually get provisioned faster than 1.5 on dsl. They offer 6.0 but I dont know anywhere in our town where the lines are clean enough to do it. My Comcast never slows down though. | |
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NyQuil Kid
8f The Nyquil Kid
join:2001-01-06
Brick, NJ | If cable is BMW.... Then FiOS is the damn USS Enterprise E thank you......
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I love my Hyundai it will last as long and is cheaper