Comcast Throttling Saga Finally Ends: Get Up To $16 It began in our forums, went all the way to the FCC, now ends with a whimper... The law firm behind Comcast's class action settlement for blocking P2P uploads has dropped us a line to note that the judge in the case (Hart v. Comcast) has given final approval of the settlement and the case has come to a close. Comcast users whose traffic was throttled using Comcast's now defunct packet forgery process have until August 29 to file a claim at this website. As is usually the case, the lawyers will get most of the dough, and users will get up to $16. The firm's press release clarifies that making a claim is not an admission of piracy. "The settlement is a great result for Comcast's customers," said Mark Todzo, an attorney with Lexington Law Group. "But customers will only get their share of the $16 million if they file a claim." Todzo claims there has been some "misinformation" spread suggesting that filing a claim is an acknowledgment of piracy. "Millions of people use P2P protocols for legitimate, legal purposes, and when you file a claim in this case, all you're saying is that you used these protocols and believe your service may have been slowed down," he insists. "This outcome may be less than ideal," Allyson Kapin of the RAD Campaign tells Broadband Reports. "A lot of people were hoping that in addition to the class-action suit the FCC would impose a large fine on Comcast, and there was a great deal of disappointment in April when the appeals court ruled that the Commission didn't have the authority to do so. Nevertheless, the more people file claims in this case, the more Comcast has to pay." Despite that robust notice program, and a vigorous opt out campaign by Robert Topolski, the named plaintiff in one ofthe coordinated actions, only 6 individuals filed objections to the settlement (one of which was later withdrawn), only 143 individuals submitted timely requests for exclusion, and no state or federal officials intervened. -Judge Legrome Davis |
Robb Topolski, who discovered Comcast's practices right here in the Broadband Reports forums back in 2007, remains unimpressed. Topolski's been pushing hard to have users opt out of the settlement, noting even the maximum penalty of $16 million for 30 months' worth of throttling amounts to about 0.0007 (0.07%) of 30 months of Internet revenue. That's not much of a penalty for Comcast, who has seen no fine for lying to customers about the practice. Still, the Judge in the case notes in the final settlement approval (pdf) that Topolski was one of very few people to object, and virtually no Comcast users responded to his campaign against the settlement. "Despite that robust notice program, and a vigorous opt out campaign by Robert Topolski," notes the Judge, "only 6 individuals filed objections to the settlement (one of which was later withdrawn), only 143 individuals submitted timely requests for exclusion...and no state or federal officials intervened." This ends the long saga of Comcast's throttling, which started here at Broadband Reports and ends with users getting sixteen bucks. Maybe. Still, the entire affair did result in Comcast implementing more intelligent network management processes that only throttle congested users on congested nodes -- and a crystal clear 250 GB per month consumption limit for residential accounts. Whatever you think of their new solution(s), at least they're now being clear with consumers.
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| P2P Apps Doesn't Blizzard, that owns World of Warcraft, use P2P to update that game's programming? So anyone that used Comcast and played World of Warcraft may have suffered. -- I've come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and i'm all outta bubblegum. | |
|  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: P2P Apps I believe you would've still received your crack WoW patches regardless of throttling. | |
|  |  |  HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium join:2000-09-20 Phone Room kudos:2 | Re: P2P Apps that's not the point. no matter what you were doing with the said P2P protocol, you could have been throttled. -- I've come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and i'm all outta bubblegum. | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: P2P Apps ya back in 2006 or so I tried to play a 10 day trial of wow and for some odd reason the file kept being corrupt
so I was affected (take that comcast) | |
|  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | If you truly feel harmed, file your $16 claim. | |
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 |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | Shhh cant let the ISPs and MAFIAA know that P2P has a legit usage! remember they need to spread their propaganda that its only for piracy and sucking bandwidth! -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA | Huh? "Despite that robust notice program, and a vigorous opt out campaign by Robert Topolski," notes the Judge, "only 6 individuals filed objections to the settlement (one of which was later withdrawn), only 143 individuals submitted timely requests for exclusion...and no state or federal officials intervened."
No one on either side notified me. I don't even know how to get my portion. | |
|  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: Huh? Did you read Karl's writeup? He provided a URL to the claims website.
The opt out campaign I believe to be Robb's attempt to not allow Comcast to settle for a mere $16M. Personally, I see the lack of objections and opt outs as a sign that a vast majority of consumers don't care and weren't really affected. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Huh? Everyone should opt put so the lawyers get less. | |
|  |  |  |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | Re: Huh? said by Tom C :
Everyone should opt put so the lawyers get less. No, they get theirs regardless.
It's too late to opt-out. You might as well file for your $16 if you haven't opted out. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Cape Cod, MA -- KE1MO Tweet! Tweet! -- »twitter.com/funchords | |
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| Re: Huh? said by funchords:said by Tom C :
Everyone should opt put so the lawyers get less. No, they get theirs regardless. It's too late to opt-out. You might as well file for your $16 if you haven't opted out. That's what really needs to be changed, the lawyers should get paid for their time and the injured parties get more compensation. -- Who overcomes by force, hath overcome but half his foe. - Milton | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Huh? ..and just how much money did YOU put up in this case? ..even for that $16 that a user could get even if they never once touched P2P?
The attorney in the case takes ALL the risk of going up against the multi billion dollar company and their deep pockets.
Just like the story and the law says... if you don't like the case, opt out. You're well within your rights to put up a retainer and hire your own attorney.. but for what? .. what damages will one actually get if their P2P was throttled? You're not going to get, at most, more than what you paid for the monthly service anyway. Is it worth going alone and spending thousands potentially and MAY or MAY NOT wind up with anything but thousands down the drain?
These attorneys are not public servants.. they don't HAVE to file these cases, and quite honestly, these cases sometimes benefit the public greatly.. they shape policy, open up investigations, and bring out the lazy congress to actually do something many times over. I think the attorneys deserve what they get..
Afterall, why should they front the money (and it's a lot) in order to sue on behalf of a bad situation and walk away with cost?
The reason injured parties don't get more compensation is because you're part of a class.. like I said.. is it worth the expense to do it yourself? nope...
Like any other class action.. you are MORE than welcome to opt-out of any of the ones you're involved in out of protest. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Huh? man, you know nothing.
attorneys can't help but scramble as fast as people in a class action - if they're supporting it, they know they're getting money.
attorney takes no risk. The attorney gets paid win or lose. When they win, it's even more money. So say a 150k/yr salary, plus a 50 million bonus for the firm if they win. Not only that, but they aren't forced to take a case.
you're full of it, fiberguy | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Huh? said by dfxmatt:man, you know nothing. attorneys can't help but scramble as fast as people in a class action - if they're supporting it, they know they're getting money. attorney takes no risk. The attorney gets paid win or lose. When they win, it's even more money. So say a 150k/yr salary, plus a 50 million bonus for the firm if they win. Not only that, but they aren't forced to take a case. you're full of it, fiberguy Think what you want, but what I said was reality. You clearly know nothing about class actions and how they work if you say I'm full of it and know nothing. lol
Google class actions.. look it up on Wiki.. ask other users here.. NOTHING I said was factually incorrect.. not a single word.
And please, tell me and everyone else, how do they get paid "win or lose"...? If the case or settlement is a "lose" then that means the "plaintiff" got NOTHING.. so who pays that attorney? Huh?
Also, who's paying for the cost of deposition? Who's paying the attorney's time? who's paying all the fees and research that they have to do in order to get the case put together? Who pays to file? who pays ALL the expenses.. the attorney, that's who. That's the "investment" they make into the case, so you know.
The attorney takes ALL the risk. The attorney doesn't get paid ANYTHING if they don't win their case or settle it. (And not all classes wind up with a win, sorry.. they don't)
So tell me.. who are these attorney's that make a "salary"..? They get paid either by a retainer and all costs paid by their client, or they get paid based on the case and a percentage of it based on a contingency agreement, which too, is also taking all the risk on their own.
By the way, in one of my two businesses that I run, one of them serves attorneys.. I know very well how they operate and how they get paid. I also have two attorneys in my family...
Where are you getting your knowledge from on this matter?
The one thing and ONLY one thing you actually did get correct is that they aren't forced to take the case.. you get credit for that one, however, it has no bearing on what's being discussed.. not one bit. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Huh? are you crazy? do you think a lawyer doesn't get paid just because a plaintiff loses? there's an entire legal system designed around ensuring a lawyer will get paid. As commonly referred to as billable hours.
Class actions always have someone leading it - that is the person that gets the majority and also is paying the class action lawyer in contract, unless they're being represented pro bono. Trust me, if this was pro bono, it'd have been indicated.
Also, of course there is always a retainer cost - therefore, are you going to tell me that they are paid nothing when a retainer is paid at the same time? Think about what you're saying here.
The money from if they were successful as a plaintiff is a bonus, not simply their pay. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Huh? said by dfxmatt:are you crazy? do you think a lawyer doesn't get paid just because a plaintiff loses? there's an entire legal system designed around ensuring a lawyer will get paid. As commonly referred to as billable hours. How does the attorney of a "class action" get paid on "billable hours" when the attorney has collected NOTHING from the plaintiff?
Class actions always have someone leading it - that is the person that gets the majority and also is paying the class action lawyer in contract, unless they're being represented pro bono. Trust me, if this was pro bono, it'd have been indicated.
Also, of course there is always a retainer cost - therefore, are you going to tell me that they are paid nothing when a retainer is paid at the same time? Think about what you're saying here. From: »www.web-access.net/~aclark/profit.htm
Before you say "I can't afford thousands or even millions of dollars in attorney fees" know that almost all class actions which have merit are taken on a contingency basis. Your attorney, or attorneys, are going to pick up and incur some very heavy expenses. Just a few of these costly expenses are the costs of depositions, travel, mailings, filing fees, and so forth.
While you like to speak of what MAY be the case, in SOME class actions, the overwhelming amount of class actions cases with merit, much like injury cases, those involving insurance companies, etc etc, are taken on contingency. Should I quote the definition of what contingency means?
There is no "entire legal system designed" to "ensure" that an attorney gets paid. I can tell you from EXPERIENCE that not every contingency case taken is always in the favor of the plaintiff. However, most of them are if the attorney is good and knows the case they are looking at taking the risk on. Most attorneys understand the law and know if a case has value to it or not and if it's worth their investment in time to take the case on "for free upfront" to the plaintiff.
The money from if they were successful as a plaintiff is a bonus, not simply their pay. The information is out there on the web... go look it up, but you're 100% wrong... wrong wrong wrong.
And no, for the record, I'm not crazy.. I just understand the law in many areas as I have 12 attorney law firms as clients. ITs my job to understand their business.
So, I'm sorry.. I won't "trust" you.
I'll leave it at that. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Huh? yeah, for what? as their IT consultant? you're not a lawyer or a paralegal, and that part is easily clear.
You think a contingency isn't going to include hours automatically being paid?
no competent lawyer would accept such a gamble for a class action. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | Re: Huh? dfx and fiber,
Both types of class-actions are possible -- fee for service and contingency.
When it is contingency-based, the lead plaintiff doesn't pay any money for lawyer's time, for filings or other expenses. The law firm is taking a gamble, but the potential payoff to the firm has to be big enough to make it worth their while.
When it is fee-for-service based, the lead plaintiff pays for the time and expenses and the law firm takes nothing extra for winning and loses nothing if the plaintiff loses the case.
Contingency suits are more common than some might think because the financial power of the company being sued is daunting to the individual consumer or investor who is interested in suing. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Cape Cod, MA -- KE1MO Tweet! Tweet! -- »twitter.com/funchords | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 1 edit | Re: Huh? I laid out the facts.. and stated my experience (which isn't IT based by the way, but what ever) and he continues to flame. Yet, interestingly enough, he continues to flail his arms and act like the authority on the matter and has yet to take one moment of time to post anything to back up his "facts" or anything other than (beats on chest) "I'm right!!! you're an idiot!"
Problem is.. I was and am right.
Funchords, you're absolutely correct about that it can be contingency or retainer... however, the cases we see today have all been contingency based. Like I said above, the law firms look to see what their chance of recovery is and they'll take the risk.. the problem is, there usually is "no risk" in any sense as the climate of class action is all too political and it's become an industry on it's own.
TECHNICALLY, dfx is correct on those cases in classes that are retainer based.. but in this case, he's factually wrong, and he's showing his lack of REAL WORLD knowledge in this matter. He reminds me of my cousin that constantly shows me is CCNA certification because he demonstrated he could read books and answer some questions, but you apply him to the real world situations, he's dumb as a box of rocks. Its one thing to know what them pages on the webz say, but it's another when you apply REAL WORLD experience to it. (to which he isn't)
What is POSSIBLE and what is actually being done are two different things.
I'd like him, in all his skillz, start producing any of these major cases that are class action where the lead plaintiff put up a retainer... then we have a conversation... until then, my point and points all stand.
DFX - just a little hint for you... Don't try to find one fact and technicality and apply it as broad and all inclusive. While technically SOME cases are as you state, the fact remains, it's not the rule these days, it's the RAREST of exception.
Read up on the history of class action in the Unites States.. and actually read the link I sent you.. it's well written and puts class action case into easy to read terms. Maybe you'll understand why in this case I am 100% right, and you're wrong. | |
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 |  |  | | said by openbox9:Did you read Karl's writeup? He provided a URL to the claims website. The opt out campaign I believe to be Robb's attempt to not allow Comcast to settle for a mere $16M. Personally, I see the lack of objections and opt outs as a sign that a vast majority of consumers don't care and weren't really affected. Personally, I see the lack of objections and opt outs as a sign that a vast majority of consumers don't even know about it. | |
|  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: Huh? And who's fault is that? The lawyers? The court's? Robb Topolski's? The consumers'? | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: Huh? It's Comcast's fault that its customers didn't know about a lawsuit filed on behalf of the customers against Comcast? | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Huh? Normally, the law firm that is in charge of the case is to notify the customers. Not the defendant. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:1 | Re: Huh? I understand that. I was questioning digitalfreak 's suggestion that it was Comcast's fault for their customers not understanding the merits of a lawsuit and the benefits of opting out, or not. | |
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| said by digitalfreak:Personally, I see the lack of objections and opt outs as a sign that a vast majority of consumers don't even know about it. The vast majority of customers didn't even know or care about the throttling in the first place. | |
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 |  |  SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA | said by openbox9:Did you read Karl's writeup? He provided a URL to the claims website. Thanks, I missed the link -- there were quite a few in the post. | |
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| Comcast are now proven to be liars quote: "That's not much of a penalty for Comcast, who has seen no fine for lying to customers about the practice".
No, not much of a penalty, but Comcast has now been outed for the LIARS that they are . . . confirmed and proven in court
There will now be more current & potential subscribers eying them with suspicion and taking even more of what they say with more than a few grains of salt. | |
|  |  HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium join:2000-09-20 Phone Room kudos:2 | Re: Comcast are now proven to be liars and they are loosing a TV entertainment subscriber as of tomorrow when my DirecTV install takes place. -- I've come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and i'm all outta bubblegum. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Comcast are now proven to be liars Your going to like DirecTv (I have it for Tv due to the higher quality) just be sure that the installer does a good job | |
|  |  |  | | and you'll still support them some way. And even then i'm sure losing you as a customer isn't going to hurt them as soon as you disconnect at least 6 more will sign up. | |
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 |  | | No one is going to look at what happened and decide not to get cable service, don't be that guy and act angry. | |
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 | | lawyers Like usual the lawyers will make a killing for preying on 'victims' by making them feel as if they were harmed.
Don't fool yourself, 99.9% of P2P traffic is for piracy and not WOW updates.
The little guy get UP TO $16 the lawyers get millions, how is that justice for anyone?
The people harmed get nothing basically. | |
|  |  bsoft join:2004-03-28 Boulder, CO | Re: lawyers Is your 99.9% number actually based on data, or did you just make it up like everyone else does? | |
|  |  GooberPremium join:2000-12-17 Naperville, IL kudos:4 | Unless you're a lawyer or work for a law firm, you have no idea what type of risk and expense this kind of legal action entails.
Silly, clueless bellyaching . . . | |
|  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | said by Tom C :
The people harmed get nothing basically. Okay.. on the merit of that statement alone, how were they harmed? What's the financial loss?
The MOST that people "lost" or were "harmed" on a residential class internet service is the total sum, max, for what was paid for the service.
Further, many people have to remember that while calling for dumb pipes (which is fine) is that they are also saying they didn't buy that service for the sole purpose of P2P activity. People email, watch and stream videos from Youtube and hulu sites, etc, chat, surf websites, and other internet activity.
With that said, P2P is only a small portion of the use of the internet service. So do people deserve a full refund for the service knowing that those people "harmed" were using the connection for all the other things mentioned above? No one lost "complete access" to the internet, right? Now, on the P2P use.. how many people are willing to stand up in a court and show their P2P usage loss? .. and what they lost out on? I think this is where the rooster comes to roost. This is going to force people to have to PROVE what they lost out on.. and is that documentation going to show they were using P2P for downloading and uploading (sharing) copyrighted material which caused their "harm"...?
It's a fact that is stated here every day that people go to P2P to get their TV shows and share them as well, etc. Those people would be awfully brave to go to a court of law and say "..but Comcast stopped me from downloading CSI on BitTorrent, your honor"... that's about as bad as taking the cops to court for busting your door down on a warrant (which the police have to pay for damages to your home in the process - watched that on the news tonight by the way) and are those people willing to say ".. they busted up my house when they were looking for my pot plants, your honor"... most people don't - another documented fact.
With all that said, take the $16 and hit up a Starbucks and enjoy some coffee on the "victory" of the lawyers who got the money for ya.
And yes, there IS legitimate P2P out there, however, I doubt that anything resembling a majority of the users that were "harmed" by it were using it for legitimate purposes in the first place. (Comcast knew that as did the attorneys) | |
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 | | what a joke the US system is "The settlement is a great result for Comcast's customers," 16$ for months or years a paying through the nose for crap service..... | |
|  |  |  |  |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | Re: what a joke the US system is said by OldschoolDSL:said by chronoss2009:"The settlement is a great result for Comcast's customers," 16$ for months or years a paying through the nose for crap service..... I agree, the system is fucked up. I filled out the forum, but doubt I'll ever see a dime. Anytime I ever took part in a claim like this (Wal-mart for example), I never got a single cent. i did the visa/mastercard one. got 42 cents on the two combined. -- The shortest distance between 2 points adds 1.5 stars to T. want $25? solve »coord.info/GC20A37 for me | |
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| Gee, could it be... ...that Topolski is nothing but a zealot with an obvious vendetta against Comcast (propped up by the sardonic BBR news page)? No one seems to give much of a hoot about his shenanigans, probably because the vast majority of customers weren't harmed in any way by the throttling, and if they were, didn't notice.
said by Macbeth : Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
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 | | This isn't the solution. This really isn't the way to deal with Comcast's Throttling. If it bothered you, you should switch to another ISP. That's why no one cared to opt in or out of the settlement. | |
|  Zero join:2009-07-01 Collegeville, PA | I'll file for my $16 And use it to help pay for my current ISP bill...Verizon FiOS. | |
|  | | What is my account number? I switched to FIOS almost 1 year ago. I don't have anything with my old comcrap account number on it! Looks like I can't get my $16. | |
|  |  | | Re: What is my account number? no canceled checks? | |
|  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | said by AstroBoy:I switched to FIOS almost 1 year ago. I don't have anything with my old comcrap account number on it! Looks like I can't get my $16. ... can't call customer service and ask them for it?  | |
|  |  | | Call and ask. I just did and didn't get any hassle. May be even better to do it on the weekend when there's fewer supervisors around. | |
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2 edits | Iptables How about Iptables? that's part of Linux kernel, Topolski should start to use Iptables to blocking the TCP RST issues and then issues are solved that's there is, Robb have a final option is to use Iptables after that worthless settlement. -- the aggregate link are carrying higher quality of connection to boost productivity. | |
|  |  | | Re: Iptables When properly deployed, the end user would never see the rst injection into their stream. (Which would make the use of IPTABLES rules impossible). The whole suit demonstrated to me how ignorant Comcast was regarding the technology they deployed on their network.
I'm Sandvine certified. | |
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| Re: Iptables I see, When that Sandvine were deployed, Sandvine platform could send a TCP RST packets to the customers' CPE, The computer TCP receives the RST packet then TCP connection should be stopped communicating and permanently unless the user start the application over again to reconnect to establish, and however if Linux IPTABLE was deployed in the middle, RST should be removed out of the packet streams as RST injection in middle of packet streams by using IPTABLE rules settings of DROP. -- the aggregate link are carrying higher quality of connection to boost productivity. | |
|  |  |  |  1 edit | Re: Iptables No, proper network management affects the NetFlow upstream from the customer in the form of a discard. IP Tables has no effect within the carrier's network. There is no need to forge, Comcast got in trouble because they did. | |
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2 edits | Re: Iptables I see, that explanation makes so clear, Comcast got just in a seriously trouble that they did started to forge the TCP packet streams by putting RST injection in the middle of TCP packet streams that got Comcast in a trouble that they did that to their customers. but what about court settlement? that not much deal about court settlement that a little deal for customers, to allowing Comcast to get away with it.
But... Comcast's networks is Comcast property owned, if they want to forge the TCP packet streams by injecting the RST bit in middle of TCP streams then it is their rights to manage the Comcast property network equipments, mostly customers will more likely to receives a RST forge packets without an advanced firewall equipped at the customer computers which connected to Comcast networking.
I have no indentation to do anything to sue the Cox communications since I'm running a Linux and IPTABLE part of Linux that I configured to block the any TCP RST packets ingoing and outgoing.
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 CT4 @comcast.net | Employee I wonder what would happen if a Comcast employee fills out a $16 claim. Would she/he get fired? | |
|  |  RoboticsSee You On The Dark SidePremium join:2003-10-23 Louisa, VA | Re: Employee Damn good question. | |
|  |  | | Doub't you could because of an agreement signed when you were hired. | |
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 | | Procedure In most class action suits, the loser is required to turn over contact information for anybody who is in the class. Everybody who had service for one day of the 30 months wll probably get a notice. I didn't read the decision, but it'll probably go something like this:
You'll get something in the mail in the next few months from the law firm which is handling the disbursements.
There'll be a claim form.
Everybody gets a pro-rated piece of the pie. It's hard to see how the plaintiffs could predicate the amount you get based on how much you weren't able to download, so it's probably based on $X per month for every month you had service. You should be able to quickly figure out whether the amount you have coming is worth a postage stamp to send back the claim form.
The hitch will be whether the burden is on you to prove you had service via bill copies, cancelled checks, etc. It would be in the administrator's (law firm) interest to require YOU to provide proof, because that way they get to keep most of the dough. With an action this broad, the administrator may set up a web site to facilitate claims; it reduces their costs.
I got a class action notice the other day because of some RAM I bought from Crucial (a/k/a Micron and 20 other subsidiaries) in like 1999 or something. It required a receipt.
I get class action notifications all the time for stocks I daytraded years ago; I never have a valid claim because I never held the stocks on the boundary dates.
Class action decisions are usually very broadly based (hence the name), but narrowly defined. | |
|  |  | | Re: Procedure Ha, OK, the hitch is you have to have your Comcast Account number.
I just called Comcast and got mine from a peppy Customer Service Rep (switched to FIOS in Jan, but he didn't even try to re-connect me or ask why I needed my old acct number).
In the online claim form, you have to certify under penalty of perjury that you used one of the affected P2P services during the period (you have to specify which), for lawful purposes, that you have reason to believe your performance was affected, and that you have not previously asked for a refund. | |
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